Apple: $50bn Wiped From Value drop more than 12%

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whoever,hey

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by niceguy1966:
“My boss loves his Samsung because it can have 'a huge font'. I don't think this will ever be a cool feature for teens!”

They might like that you can make the font smaller though and use the screen real estate better.

Aint customisation great?

kidspud

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by slick1two:
“But do you accept now that they are in a climate where there are are better phones? At better price points with better value for money?”

No. I accept there are different phones at different price points. Better and value are subjective.

kidspud

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“The coolness was always there for a long time. iPhones were very desirable phones and a huge fashion statement. There used to be an envy when someone had an iphone but they are ten a penny. I guess since they all look the bloody same over the last 3 years they have lost the coolness and desirability. Die hard apple fans wont see this though.

As for very good phones, well i guess that's personal preference. I despised mine!”

And this goes back to the point I made earlier. It was often claimed that apple sold loads of phones because they were cool. And now they are not.

How does anyone explain then that they have just sold more phones in one quarter than ever before

Mystic Eddy

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“erm .... not 'my' point on missing expectations ..... the point was made by many analysts ..... ”

Why hello Mr Nit-picker

:yawn:. You obviously have nothing else to add to the discussion do you?

paulbrock

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“How does anyone explain then that they have just sold more phones in one quarter than ever before”

Because *everyone* is selling more phones than ever before. The premium phone market is expanding.

soran

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“I'm no expert but I think a lot of people were under the impression APPL was on it's way to $1000 a share and could only rise and rise. Now it appears it may have peaked and so investors are probably selling to try and make as much profit as possible from their investment and it's a chain reaction.

The company itself is still doing brilliantly and has over $140 billion in cash reserves.”

About time they took a leaf out of Bill Gates book, and start to do some good with that money then. Might help the share price too if they upped their philanthropy credentials.

kidspud

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“Because *everyone* is selling more phones than ever before. The premium phone market is expanding.”

But why are they choosing iPhone! According to people here they are not cool and that was the only reason people ever bought iPhone

alanwarwic

25-01-2013

I think you will find that the iPhone is getting more and more regionalised.
It flies out the door in the US, sales hold up in the UK whereas its sinking like the titanic elsewhere.
Thus the budget phone talk.

Not that good if your Kidspud type still marvels over it, then buys Android anyway.
Is it?

BTW I don't know if anyone's done an analysis yet. But considering the very seasonal nature of Apple sales, it might show an actual fall, all things considered.

kidspud

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“I think you will find that the iPhone is getting more and more regionalised.
It flies out the door in the US, sales hold up in the UK whereas its sinking like the titanic elsewhere.
Thus the budget phone talk.

Not that good if your Kidspud type still marvels over it, then buys Android anyway.
Is it?”

Is that is what is happening? I've not seen the regional sales breakdown.

Edit: some of whay you say does not seem to make sense. Apple say they achieved their highest growth in mainland china.

And I don't know why you think I marvel over it, what a strange this to say.

Mind you I do this my iPad mini is excellent.

swordman

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“Is that is what is happening? I've not seen the regional sales breakdown.

Edit: some of whay you say does not seem to make sense. Apple say they achieved their highest growth in mainland china.

And I don't know why you think I marvel over it, what a strange this to say.

Mind you I do this my iPad mini is excellent.”

If you don't marvel I shudder to think what someone who does would be like.

If you go from 0.0001% to 1% market share that would be your highest growth would it not

The mobile market is expanding hugely apple is not .. you have to accept facts painful a they are to you.

alanwarwic

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“Edit: some of whay you say does not seem to make sense. Apple say they achieved their highest growth in mainland china.”

China was part of that accelerated launch which got sales reasonably close to the slow launch Q4 2011.

Investors have not yet bought into 'production is now ramping up' either. Considering all the supposed delays surely sales are now meant to be accelerating?

kidspud

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by swordman:
“ If you don't marvel I shudder to think what someone who does would be like.

If you go from 0.0001% to 1% market share that would be your highest growth would it not

The mobile market is expanding hugely apple is not .. you have to accept facts painful a they are to you.”

I don't think your interpretation of my views count for much

I agree, that would be your highest growth, but it doesn't sound like "sinking like the titanic"' but it doesn't matter, I now realise that was just an emotive phrase.

Painful to me

Think you are taking these chats too seriously.

kidspud

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“China was part of that accelerated launch which got sales reasonably close to the slow launch Q4 2011.

Investors have not yet bought into 'production is now ramping up' either. Considering all the supposed delays surely sales are now meant to be accelerating?”

Wow, you seem to know more than the analysis. You must have a very good source.

So, is china sinking like the titanic or not.

swordman

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“I don't think your interpretation of my views count for much

I agree, that would be your highest growth, but it doesn't sound like "sinking like the titanic"' but it doesn't matter, I now realise that was just an emotive phrase.

Painful to me Think you are taking these chats too seriously.”

No not sinking like the titanic I wouldn't be that dramatic a lot slower than that so no need to panic so yet.

whoever,hey

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“Wow, you seem to know more than the analysis. You must have a very good source.

So, is china sinking like the titanic or not.”

China has the biggest growth in the world economy atm. It would be devastating if Apple weren't even growing there.

Step666

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“
Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“Because *everyone* is selling more phones than ever before. The premium phone market is expanding.”

But why are they choosing iPhone!”

Proportionally, fewer and fewer people are.
Apple may be selling more handsets than they have in the past but they are losing marketshare almost across the board.

As paulbrock said, everyone is selling more smartphones but other companies sales are increasing faster than Apple's.

Stuart_h

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by Mystic Eddy:
“Why hello Mr Nit-picker:yawn:. You obviously have nothing else to add to the discussion do you?”

i was accused of making a specific point. i was simply pointing out that it wasnt a point made by me ......

lots to add yourself i see

Stuart_h

25-01-2013

Surprised you can read the thread on such a low resolution

kidspud

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Surprised you can read the thread on such a low resolution ”

I expect the much larger screen than the nexus 7 helps

Stuart_h

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“I expect the much larger screen than the nexus 7 helps”

on my laptop at the mo but for forum posting i tend to use my transformer as the keyboard and bigger screen helps

The N7 is for more casual browsing or gaming but if I really want a big screen i use the MK802 plugged into the 46" TV

damn im in deep

Step666

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“I expect the much larger screen than the nexus 7 helps”

All the does is lower the pixel density even further.
The exact opposite of what Apple touts about the 'retina displays'.

kidspud

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by Step666:
“All the does is lower the pixel density even further.
The exact opposite of what Apple touts about the 'retina displays'.”

I've never heard apple say that, so ill have to take your word for it.

Step666

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“I've never heard apple say that, so ill have to take your word for it.”

Seriously?
They've been going on about it since the iPhone4, it's kinda difficult to miss.

Zack06

25-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“I expect the much larger screen than the nexus 7 helps”

This is of no difference if the resolution is not increased with the screen size, so you tried. I hear the Nexus 10 has a very good screen though.

swordman

26-01-2013

Originally Posted by kidspud:
“I expect the much larger screen than the nexus 7 helps”

Rookie mistake there ... feel a little silly

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