If his outburst was genuine which I think it was. He basically said they were told to do all this. Therefore they had a script to follow
so speidi being unpleasant and disrupting tasks was in the contract
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I don't think he literally meant they told him what to do. Just that they knew he was a villain and that's what they expect of him so he played that role.
Well theres no doubt they wouldve been booked on the premise of spicing thing up, theres a lot of scope for how that couldve played out in the house - I dont think they are as good at it as they like to think though.
Originally Posted by Redmond:
“I don't think he literally meant they told him what to do. Just that they knew he was a villain and that's what they expect of him so he played that role.”
“I don't think he literally meant they told him what to do. Just that they knew he was a villain and that's what they expect of him so he played that role.”
This is what I thought too.
Yeah that's one things I've learned from watching the show DUNDEEBOY, you can always believe what Spencer says.
Originally Posted by Redmond:
“I don't think he literally meant they told him what to do. Just that they knew he was a villain and that's what they expect of him so he played that role.”
“I don't think he literally meant they told him what to do. Just that they knew he was a villain and that's what they expect of him so he played that role.”
exactly, thats why they were brought in, theyd have been prodded and goaded by the producers to cause as much conflict as possible, that was obvious from the beginning, thats what theyre known for, doesnt make them bad people
Doesn't this make him guilty of the worst crime on this forum then? Whether it is in his contract or he was just fulfilling an implied brief doesn't this mean he has been "fake" for 3 weeks?. Its usually a hanging offence on here
They're known for being Villians ,so wouldn't surprise me if BB told them that's the role they wanted them to play
If it is true, what a pity the producers didn't tell Emma that they had put paid actors (amaturs) into the show and given them a script, then we wouldn't have to listen to her and the faux psycs and other presenters banging on about not knowing who they really are.
Whatever way you look at it they are all fake.
Whatever way you look at it they are all fake.
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“Doesn't this make him guilty of the worst crime on this forum then? Whether it is in his contract or he was just fulfilling an implied brief doesn't this mean he has been "fake" for 3 weeks?. Its usually a hanging offence on here”
“Doesn't this make him guilty of the worst crime on this forum then? Whether it is in his contract or he was just fulfilling an implied brief doesn't this mean he has been "fake" for 3 weeks?. Its usually a hanging offence on here”
Loads of CBB is fake, it's just panto, and they were contracted to be the villains.
Think Saturday forward.
Speidi need the British public to like them as follows.
1) attractive and desirable - hence her dancing
2) confrontational - hence the whole series
3) endearing - hence tonight
They are clever, their management are clever and despite them playing a deliberately obnoxious role, loads of you have fallen in love with them.
Not my place to say right from wrong, i personally dont like them but that's BB, like who you want.
I admire them in a perverse way though, apart frim themselves I don't think anybody truely knows what they are all about.
Speidi need the British public to like them as follows.
1) attractive and desirable - hence her dancing
2) confrontational - hence the whole series
3) endearing - hence tonight
They are clever, their management are clever and despite them playing a deliberately obnoxious role, loads of you have fallen in love with them.
Not my place to say right from wrong, i personally dont like them but that's BB, like who you want.
I admire them in a perverse way though, apart frim themselves I don't think anybody truely knows what they are all about.
Originally Posted by firsttimeviewer:
“Think Saturday forward.
Speidi need the British public to like them as follows.
1) attractive and desirable - hence her dancing
2) confrontational - hence the whole series
3) endearing - hence tonight
They are clever, their management are clever and despite them playing a deliberately obnoxious role, loads of you have fallen in love with them.
Not my place to say right from wrong, i personally dont like them but that's BB, like who you want.
I admire them in a perverse way though, apart frim themselves I don't think anybody truely knows what they are all about.”
“Think Saturday forward.
Speidi need the British public to like them as follows.
1) attractive and desirable - hence her dancing
2) confrontational - hence the whole series
3) endearing - hence tonight
They are clever, their management are clever and despite them playing a deliberately obnoxious role, loads of you have fallen in love with them.
Not my place to say right from wrong, i personally dont like them but that's BB, like who you want.
I admire them in a perverse way though, apart frim themselves I don't think anybody truely knows what they are all about.”
This is probably one of the most sensible posts I've read on here for a while.
However, I would only qualify your comment re "a lot of us fell in love with them" with one thing; a lot of us knew this was their game from the offset and tonight, by Spencer's admission, we were proven right.
I think that's why we found it easier to be "less offended" by their behaviour and just enjoyed their entertainment value. You could see moments of where Speidi (Spencer in particular) really liked his housemates. But he quickly had to push that away and continue playing the villain.
Originally Posted by cah:
“They're known for being Villians ,so wouldn't surprise me if BB told them that's the role they wanted them to play”
“They're known for being Villians ,so wouldn't surprise me if BB told them that's the role they wanted them to play”
this^^ but i dont believe theres any script and they memorise it every day that would be nuts
Originally Posted by BIGM0MMA:
“Yeah that's one things I've learned from watching the show DUNDEEBOY, you can always believe what Spencer says.”
“Yeah that's one things I've learned from watching the show DUNDEEBOY, you can always believe what Spencer says.”
Really ?
Originally Posted by shinnyr:
“This is probably one of the most sensible posts I've read on here for a while.
However, I would only qualify your comment re "a lot of us fell in love with them" with one thing; a lot of us knew this was their game from the offset and tonight, by Spencer's admission, we were proven right.
I think that's why we found it easier to be "less offended" by their behaviour and just enjoyed their entertainment value. You could see moments of where Speidi (Spencer in particular) really liked his housemates. But he quickly had to push that away and continue playing the villain.”
“This is probably one of the most sensible posts I've read on here for a while.
However, I would only qualify your comment re "a lot of us fell in love with them" with one thing; a lot of us knew this was their game from the offset and tonight, by Spencer's admission, we were proven right.
I think that's why we found it easier to be "less offended" by their behaviour and just enjoyed their entertainment value. You could see moments of where Speidi (Spencer in particular) really liked his housemates. But he quickly had to push that away and continue playing the villain.”
I think the vast majority of FM have known from day one that Speidi are playing up to the villain role. That doesn't make me less 'offended' by their bad behaviour as the impact they've had on the other HM has been all too real.
Originally Posted by Sue_Rourke:
“I think the vast majority of FM have known from day one that Speidi are playing up to the villain role. That doesn't make me less 'offended' by their bad behaviour as the impact they've had on the other HM has been all too real.”
“I think the vast majority of FM have known from day one that Speidi are playing up to the villain role. That doesn't make me less 'offended' by their bad behaviour as the impact they've had on the other HM has been all too real.”
Actually, the majority thought the opposite. Especially the Rylan fans. Go back and read the threads over the last few weeks - I'm shocked how many thought they were being real
Originally Posted by Sue_Rourke:
“I think the vast majority of FM have known from day one that Speidi are playing up to the villain role. That doesn't make me less 'offended' by their bad behaviour as the impact they've had on the other HM has been all too real.”
“I think the vast majority of FM have known from day one that Speidi are playing up to the villain role. That doesn't make me less 'offended' by their bad behaviour as the impact they've had on the other HM has been all too real.”
I don't think I've ever been offended by anything they have said whilst interacting with the rest of the house - as you say they were playing a role, what's less understandable is their behaviour and what they say when they are alone together, be it in the bedroom or DR. I don't believe they were playing up to the cameras the whole time when they were alone, and during some of those times they were pretty nasty.
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“If his outburst was genuine which I think it was. He basically said they were told to do all this. Therefore they had a script to follow”
“If his outburst was genuine which I think it was. He basically said they were told to do all this. Therefore they had a script to follow”
Yes. He said that BB 'cast' them as villains. In other words, the producers told them exactly how to act without actually giving them a script.BB helped them along in this deception by telling them to pretend to leave and putting them in the basement, There was no justification in giving them this preferential treatment. It was just a ploy by the producers to let them hear what the others were saying and to give them something to moan about.
Originally Posted by firsttimeviewer:
“Think Saturday forward.
Speidi need the British public to like them as follows.
1) attractive and desirable - hence her dancing
2) confrontational - hence the whole series
3) endearing - hence tonight
They are clever, their management are clever and despite them playing a deliberately obnoxious role, loads of you have fallen in love with them.
Not my place to say right from wrong, i personally dont like them but that's BB, like who you want.
I admire them in a perverse way though, apart frim themselves I don't think anybody truely knows what they are all about.”
“Think Saturday forward.
Speidi need the British public to like them as follows.
1) attractive and desirable - hence her dancing
2) confrontational - hence the whole series
3) endearing - hence tonight
They are clever, their management are clever and despite them playing a deliberately obnoxious role, loads of you have fallen in love with them.
Not my place to say right from wrong, i personally dont like them but that's BB, like who you want.
I admire them in a perverse way though, apart frim themselves I don't think anybody truely knows what they are all about.”
You're reading too much into it. They misread the show and their part in it, it really is that simple.
C5 set them up and they took the fall. Amazing how not one of the HM's took them to one side and explained how BB works they were all too busy ganging up on them.
British CBB = gang mentality. Small gangs big gangs it doesn't matter it all amounts to the same thing.
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I don't think I've ever been offended by anything they have said whilst interacting with the rest of the house - as you say they were playing a role, what's less understandable is their behaviour and what they say when they are alone together, be it in the bedroom or DR. I don't believe they were playing up to the cameras the whole time when they were alone, and during some of those times they were pretty nasty.”
“I don't think I've ever been offended by anything they have said whilst interacting with the rest of the house - as you say they were playing a role, what's less understandable is their behaviour and what they say when they are alone together, be it in the bedroom or DR. I don't believe they were playing up to the cameras the whole time when they were alone, and during some of those times they were pretty nasty.”
I think they were playing up to their role the whole time. They knew the cameras were there all the time and would pick up anything they said when alone. AS two people who counted as one housemate, they had the big advantage of being able to tell the viewers what they were thinking even when they were alone. Nobody else could do that. They were also able to discuss nomination tactics between themselves
Originally Posted by Silent Scream:
“You're reading too much into it. They misread the show and their part in it, it really is that simple.
C5 set them up and they took the fall.”
“You're reading too much into it. They misread the show and their part in it, it really is that simple.
C5 set them up and they took the fall.”
Quite. Amazing how so many people on this forum can't see the situation for what it is. Too busy crowing about how they're more clever/cynical or whatever than other people for apparently seeing through his 'acting'. I said in another thread on here that people on this forum must be lacking in emotional intelligence.
Originally Posted by paralax:
“If it is true, what a pity the producers didn't tell Emma that they had put paid actors (amaturs) into the show and given them a script, then we wouldn't have to listen to her and the faux psycs and other presenters banging on about not knowing who they really are.
Whatever way you look at it they are all fake.”
“If it is true, what a pity the producers didn't tell Emma that they had put paid actors (amaturs) into the show and given them a script, then we wouldn't have to listen to her and the faux psycs and other presenters banging on about not knowing who they really are.
Whatever way you look at it they are all fake.”
Agreed. Emma pretending to looked shocked after the speech was just as fake as everything else. Of course she will know how BB works nowadays. I don't suppose she was even surprised at Rylan leaving the house for rehearsals. Just surprised and embarassed at having to make the producers' excuses for them.
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