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If Spencer and Heidi were genuine in their speech then...
lcfcfem
25-01-2013
why oh why would they not have been genuine in the diary room and let on that they had been told to be villians and they were playing a game and that the HMs were not too bad etc etc. They would have won more public votes if they had and Channel 5 would have had more revenue, so I for one, do not believe it at all.

If I am wrong and they are genuine and Channel 5 have scripted this, then how can they win as that would mean the whole direction of what they have said and done is contrived by C5

Is BB all about the best actor/actors now?
Londonmassive
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by lcfcfem:
“why oh why would they not have been genuine in the diary room and let on that they had been told to be villians and they were playing a game and that the HMs were not too bad etc etc. They would have won more public votes if they had and Channel 5 would have had more revenue, so I for one, do not believe it at all.

If I am wrong and they are genuine and Channel 5 have scripted this, then how can they win as that would mean the whole direction of what they have said and done is contrived by C5

Is BB all about the best actor/actors now?”

I thought they might have been genuine, but then again it took Spencer a good while to get the tears out. He was tensing his face & squeezing his eye lids for a good 10-20seconds before any tear emerged.

Maybe he was chopping onions beforehand and rubbed some of it onto his eyes, or it may have been genuine. But i could care less.

I find it funny that so many people are intrigued , "are they playing a game" "are they not "

who cares.
allie4
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by Londonmassive:
“I thought they might have been genuine, but then again it took Spencer a good while to get the tears out. He was tensing his face & squeezing his eye lids for a good 10-20seconds before any tear emerged.

Maybe he was chopping onions beforehand and rubbed some of it onto his eyes, or it may have been genuine. But i could care less.

I find it funny that so many people are intrigued , "are they playing a game" "are they not "

who cares.”

Can't say I care a fig but I certainly don't buy into speidi's "nice" act. Just a push to win now.
Summer Kisses
25-01-2013
I've just watched the live feed on dailymotion after reading all the 'aww speidi cried' threads & have got to say that it was so contrived. Last minute attempt to fool the public, anyone who thought the 'tears' were genuine has been hoodwinked. As Londonmassive said, Spencer was squeezing his eyes trying to get a tear drop out - and he failed miserably.
allie4
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by Summer Kisses:
“I've just watched the live feed on dailymotion after reading all the 'aww speidi cried' threads & have got to say that it was so contrived. Last minute attempt to fool the public, anyone who thought the 'tears' were genuine has been hoodwinked. As Londonmassive said, Spencer was squeezing his eyes trying to get a tear drop out - and he failed miserably.”

I suspect those were drunk tears as well.
lcfcfem
25-01-2013
I think Heidi gave it away.. Rylan was spot on and her face seemed to say it all. Also, if this was the first time I had seen my husband cry I think I would have took him off somewhere quiet or gave him a big hug or something.
Seymour
25-01-2013
I have not watched last nights live show yet ,but there is nothing Speidi could say that would convince me that they are anything but odious...I can't wait to see the back of them... They did spoil one of my favourite programes for me...
TourEiffel
25-01-2013
Who knows what was in their contract? Maybe they were told to behave bad, not to mention it to anyone, not even in the diary room (for fear of it getting out).....and Spencer thinking it OK to confess on the final night ......they weren't aware that the show was being broadcast on live feed.

Originally Posted by lcfcfem:
“I think Heidi gave it away.. Rylan was spot on and her face seemed to say it all. Also, if this was the first time I had seen my husband cry I think I would have took him off somewhere quiet or gave him a big hug or something.”

Yes, I found her reaction to his tears odd too?
curlywurly
25-01-2013
there were no tears, they both played the final curtain and if anyone is gulliable enough to believe them, then speidi played the curtain call well.

Heidi her face was dry as a bone. whilst specers face was moist with sweat not tears.
aggielane
25-01-2013
I think they listened to the bull that was coming out the other HMs and decided if you can't beat them join them. So yes they were just as genuine as the other Hms
Londonmassive
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by lcfcfem:
“I think Heidi gave it away.. Rylan was spot on and her face seemed to say it all. Also, if this was the first time I had seen my husband cry I think I would have took him off somewhere quiet or gave him a big hug or something.”

yeah that bit " a a a i never seen my huauasband cry " . That seemed proper phony

BTW anyone know whats with the no human contact & the weird hug with the head tilting backwards & away, almost as its trying to get away from her body. Someone said she is afraid of anything touching her , incase it breaks her Or is it fear of germs ?

In any case i find it offensive that someone would turn away when someone is hugging or embracing them. I dont get why some of the housemate would go in again for a hugs, i would keep my distance.
Antonia Smart
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by lcfcfem:
“why oh why would they not have been genuine in the diary room and let on that they had been told to be villians and they were playing a game and that the HMs were not too bad etc etc. They would have won more public votes if they had and Channel 5 would have had more revenue, so I for one, do not believe it at all.

If I am wrong and they are genuine and Channel 5 have scripted this, then how can they win as that would mean the whole direction of what they have said and done is contrived by C5

Is BB all about the best actor/actors now?”

Have people forgotten we only see an edited 40 minutes of what goes on 24/7.
Londonmassive
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by Seymour:
“I have not watched last nights live show yet ,but there is nothing Speidi could say that would convince me that they are anything but odious...I can't wait to see the back of them... They did spoil one of my favourite programes for me...”


Agree. Was one of the worst BBs. They tried to center the show around two of the most vile,boring,talentless indiviuals.

You had some great characters with life experiences ,real talents & achievements, who had so much more to offer,so much more to share, but BB didnt get them involved enough, or made their time awkard and depressing in the house. When the audience on BBOTS complained as to why the most of the editing included scenes of RYLAN & SPEIDI, they claimed because they were the ones that were providing the mose entertainment. Which is Bullsh1t

Rylan yes, but not the American couple, they were laying on the couch or in bed the entire day.

Plus BB gave them special treatment. ( allowed to sleep in the pimped up basement, & not participate/fail in tasks) BTW the only reason they took away the basement priviledge was only because of viewers begun to complain. Otherwise they wouldve allowed them to sleep down until the end of the series.

All they did was mutter utter rubbish or insult the HMs. What kind of entertainment is that ? That is not talent or entertainment IMO.

People like FRANKIE,GILLIAN,TRISH,CLAIRE,RYAN etc.. first off are not vulgar characters,and secondly they wont stoop to those pittiful levels to get votes.

The above named characters shouldve been given more central roles, but BB didnt get them involved enough.
cleo
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by Londonmassive:
“Agree. Was one of the worst BBs. They tried to center the show around two of the most vile,boring,talentless indiviuals.

You had some great characters with life experiences ,real talents & achievements, who had so much more to offer,so much more to share, but BB didnt get them involved enough, or made their time awkard and depressing in the house. When the audience on BBOTS complained as to why the most of the editing included scenes of RYLAN & SPEIDI, they claimed because they were the ones that were providing the mose entertainment. Which is Bullsh1t

Rylan yes, but not the American couple, they were laying on the couch or in bed the entire day.

Plus BB gave them special treatment. ( allowed to sleep in the pimped up basement, & not participate/fail in tasks) BTW the only reason they took away the basement priviledge was only because of viewers begun to complain. Otherwise they wouldve allowed them to sleep down until the end of the series.

All they did was mutter utter rubbish or insult the HMs. What kind of entertainment is that ? That is not talent or entertainment IMO.

People like FRANKIE,GILLIAN,TRISH,CLAIRE,RYAN etc.. first off are not vulgar characters,and secondly they wont stoop to those pittiful levels to get votes.

The above named characters shouldve been given more central roles, but BB didnt get them involved enough.”

I totally agree with you. BBs obsession with trying to force storylines onto Spencer and Heidi has killed this series and wasted opportunities to see the rest of the HMs
Tissy
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by aggielane:
“I think they listened to the bull that was coming out the other HMs and decided if you can't beat them join them. So yes they were just as genuine as the other Hms”

The best part was Rylan and Razor straight after
white tigress
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by Londonmassive:
“Agree. Was one of the worst BBs. They tried to center the show around two of the most vile,boring,talentless indiviuals.

You had some great characters with life experiences ,real talents & achievements, who had so much more to offer,so much more to share, but BB didnt get them involved enough, or made their time awkard and depressing in the house. When the audience on BBOTS complained as to why the most of the editing included scenes of RYLAN & SPEIDI, they claimed because they were the ones that were providing the mose entertainment. Which is Bullsh1t

Rylan yes, but not the American couple, they were laying on the couch or in bed the entire day.
Plus BB gave them special treatment. ( allowed to sleep in the pimped up basement, & not participate/fail in tasks) BTW the only reason they took away the basement priviledge was only because of viewers begun to complain. Otherwise they wouldve allowed them to sleep down until the end of the series.
All they did was mutter utter rubbish or insult the HMs. What kind of entertainment is that ? That is not talent or entertainment IMO.

People like FRANKIE,GILLIAN,TRISH,CLAIRE,RYAN etc.. first off are not vulgar characters,and secondly they wont stoop to those pittiful levels to get votes.

The above named characters shouldve been given more central roles, but BB didnt get them involved enough.”

Well put! My fury is that IF, as he claims, Speidi were 'hired' to play a 24/7 role, then CBB is no longer a 'Reality' show but a scripted/improv Fiction--which I am NOT interested in seeing. I want to see Celebs being Themselves, NOT pre-determined fiction characters! It's like if you put David Tennant in CBB and he played Dr Who throughout! Or Ian McKellen was Hamlet.......Spencer also is indicating Fraudulent Intent and Deception on the part of BB Producers if what they claim is true. "I was only following Orders" was notoriously used as an excuse in history!
I don't believe those tears--as Rylan pointed out weeks ago, they Get Nice the night before Evictions. Also they were just as nasty alone in bed chatting to eachother and in the Diary Room. Why wasn't Judy-Body-Language asked to analyse Speidi's weepery as she was in the BOTS studio??
Either Speidi are Fake or BB is now!
netcurtains
25-01-2013
Speidi completely ruined this BB, I couldn't care less about their tears, real or not. They are the two most dull and boring people I've ever had the misfortune to watch. If I wanted to watch such boring fakery, I'd watch The Hills.
radiofree
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by Londonmassive:
“Agree. Was one of the worst BBs. They tried to center the show around two of the most vile,boring,talentless indiviuals.

You had some great characters with life experiences ,real talents & achievements, who had so much more to offer,so much more to share, but BB didnt get them involved enough, or made their time awkard and depressing in the house. When the audience on BBOTS complained as to why the most of the editing included scenes of RYLAN & SPEIDI, they claimed because they were the ones that were providing the mose entertainment. Which is Bullsh1t

Rylan yes, but not the American couple, they were laying on the couch or in bed the entire day.

Plus BB gave them special treatment. ( allowed to sleep in the pimped up basement, & not participate/fail in tasks) BTW the only reason they took away the basement priviledge was only because of viewers begun to complain. Otherwise they wouldve allowed them to sleep down until the end of the series.

All they did was mutter utter rubbish or insult the HMs. What kind of entertainment is that ? That is not talent or entertainment IMO.

People like FRANKIE,GILLIAN,TRISH,CLAIRE,RYAN etc.. first off are not vulgar characters,and secondly they wont stoop to those pittiful levels to get votes.

The above named characters shouldve been given more central roles, but BB didnt get them involved enough.”

I get it. You don't like them and nothing they say or do will change that. Seems being American has a lot to do with it.
But what's funny is that, despite the fact that they are paid to be 'villains' -- that was their 'script', you still believe they actually ARE villains. Why? I genuinely do not understand how people cannot distinguish 'the person' from 'the cast member' on a tv show.
netcurtains
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by radiofree:
“I get it. You don't like them and nothing they say or do will change that. Seems being American has a lot to do with it.
But what's funny is that, despite the fact that they are paid to be 'villains' -- that was their 'script', you still believe they actually ARE villains. Why? I genuinely do not understand how people cannot distinguish 'the person' from 'the cast member' on a tv show.”

Ask any American and they will tell you that this is what Speidi are really like, they've burned all their bridges over there for being arrogant arses so they're trying their luck over here. Being an obnoxious arse gets old really quick, they seem to be having a little trouble getting their head around that, it's a novelty for us Brits but the novelty has worn off for most of us and now we're just bored.
radiofree
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by netcurtains:
“Speidi completely ruined this BB, I couldn't care less about their tears, real or not. They are the two most dull and boring people I've ever had the misfortune to watch. If I wanted to watch such boring fakery, I'd watch The Hills.”


how can they be both dull and fake? logically, this means they might not be dull when being themselves. either way, they can't be that dull or boring or else you wouldn't be watching them and posting comments
and if it's all fake, how can you comment on their true personalities when we only know them as actors?
radiofree
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by netcurtains:
“Ask any American and they will tell you that this is what Speidi are really like, they've burned all their bridges over there for being arrogant arses so they're trying their luck over here. Being an obnoxious arse gets old really quick, they seem to be having a little trouble getting their head around that, it's a novelty for us Brits but the novelty has worn off for most of us and now we're just bored.”

Lol. I am American.
sooze
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by Londonmassive:
“I thought they might have been genuine, but then again it took Spencer a good while to get the tears out. He was tensing his face & squeezing his eye lids for a good 10-20seconds before any tear emerged.

Maybe he was chopping onions beforehand and rubbed some of it onto his eyes, or it may have been genuine. But i could care less.

I find it funny that so many people are intrigued , "are they playing a game" "are they not "

who cares.”

Originally Posted by allie4:
“Can't say I care a fig but I certainly don't buy into speidi's "nice" act. Just a push to win now.”

Originally Posted by Summer Kisses:
“I've just watched the live feed on dailymotion after reading all the 'aww speidi cried' threads & have got to say that it was so contrived. Last minute attempt to fool the public, anyone who thought the 'tears' were genuine has been hoodwinked. As Londonmassive said, Spencer was squeezing his eyes trying to get a tear drop out - and he failed miserably.”

Originally Posted by allie4:
“I suspect those were drunk tears as well.”

Originally Posted by lcfcfem:
“I think Heidi gave it away.. Rylan was spot on and her face seemed to say it all. Also, if this was the first time I had seen my husband cry I think I would have took him off somewhere quiet or gave him a big hug or something.”

Originally Posted by curlywurly:
“there were no tears, they both played the final curtain and if anyone is gulliable enough to believe them, then speidi played the curtain call well.

Heidi her face was dry as a bone. whilst specers face was moist with sweat not tears.”


agree with all above and more I find it so sadthat so may people are being taken in by them - they don't know what being genuine and sincere is
Pices-55
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by radiofree:
“how can they be both dull and fake? logically, this means they might not be dull when being themselves. either way, they can't be that dull or boring or else you wouldn't be watching them and posting comments
and if it's all fake, how can you comment on their true personalities when we only know them as actors?”

Of course they can be dull as well as fake, they want us to believe that all they have said and done in the house so far has been an act and that now they are being real.If we are to accept that they have been acting the whole way through then why should we not think they are acting now?

Of course they have had a lot of aid and direction from BB and no doubt this remorseful Speidi is yet another scene in the play..............I accept they were brought in to be the baddies, but simply because they are and all their previous tv have shown then to be so. Are we supposed to believe that all their bad behaviour previously was also fake...their fallout with their families and the horrendous way they have treated the American media and interviewers that they have abused......no sorry I dont believe their latest turn around.

Having watched the Pratts speech and tears I think it unbelievable that anyone can be taken in by it...it was poorly acted and so phoney...the Pratts are full of crap, they are nasty and manipulative and they are laughing at the voters who believe their BS.....all they are after is money and fame over here because they have exhausted their potential in America, nobody over there wants them or is fooled by them.
Big Poy
25-01-2013
Originally Posted by Londonmassive:
“Agree. Was one of the worst BBs. They tried to center the show around two of the most vile,boring,talentless indiviuals.

You had some great characters with life experiences ,real talents & achievements, who had so much more to offer,so much more to share, but BB didnt get them involved enough, or made their time awkard and depressing in the house. When the audience on BBOTS complained as to why the most of the editing included scenes of RYLAN & SPEIDI, they claimed because they were the ones that were providing the mose entertainment. Which is Bullsh1t

Rylan yes, but not the American couple, they were laying on the couch or in bed the entire day.

Plus BB gave them special treatment. ( allowed to sleep in the pimped up basement, & not participate/fail in tasks) BTW the only reason they took away the basement priviledge was only because of viewers begun to complain. Otherwise they wouldve allowed them to sleep down until the end of the series.

All they did was mutter utter rubbish or insult the HMs. What kind of entertainment is that ? That is not talent or entertainment IMO.

People like FRANKIE,GILLIAN,TRISH,CLAIRE,RYAN etc.. first off are not vulgar characters,and secondly they wont stoop to those pittiful levels to get votes.

The above named characters shouldve been given more central roles, but BB didnt get them involved enough.”

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view...BIG-BRO-FINAL/

But they don't mind stooping pretty low to get others votes?

Just like Trish did in the CBB when Denise won?

Thank f**k she's out, up there with Cassidy in the self righteous states.
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