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Old 30-12-2004, 16:52
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Seeing as everyone is posting their opinions on Steve I thought I'd say what I thought. Whats the point in starting threads saying that he is not very good 3 weeks after he has won. Just accept it and get on with your lives cos in my opinion and thousands of other people, he is a great singer and hopefully will have a long and successful career.
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Old 30-12-2004, 16:54
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Jesus y is everyone feeling the need to strike each other down for having their own opinion. I posted my opinion on the other thread. I stand by it as it is my opinion. Some people like Steve, some people don't like Steve, why do we have to have the same rows all the time!!
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Old 30-12-2004, 16:56
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theres no point starting anther thread to say how good u think steve is - add your positive comments to 'Team Steve' - it will probably less arguments and less reason for the originator of the 'Steves not very good really' thread to bite back!
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Old 30-12-2004, 16:58
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Xfactor finished ages ago.... do people have nothing better to do that carry on arguing about whether Steve is crap or not? Like him or not, he won, so just let it drop, PLEASE!! I'm sick of coming on the forum and seeing all these threads which have been started only to cause arguments.
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Old 30-12-2004, 16:58
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Kalla come and join us in team Steve any supporters of him are welcome
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Old 30-12-2004, 17:00
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Sorry I just got a bit fed up with people trying to turn people against Steve, because I know If G4 or any act had won I wouldn't be putting them down I would be wishing them well whilst supporting Steve. Anyway your both right there's no point in starting arguements so I will stop right here
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Old 30-12-2004, 17:07
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Originally Posted by kalla
Sorry I just got a bit fed up with people trying to turn people against Steve, because I know If G4 or any act had won I wouldn't be putting them down I would be wishing them well whilst supporting Steve. Anyway your both right there's no point in starting arguements so I will stop right here

I know exactly where you were coming from.I've also got fed up at times and done exactly as you've done.We've all had to stand up for him at some point. I think some posters are just out to cause trouble and are probably best left to their own little negative world.
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Old 30-12-2004, 17:23
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Strikes me as a bit odd that people can come here complaining about this positive thread being started but the same people were happy to join in with the negative one hotelier started earlier.
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Old 30-12-2004, 17:34
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Strikes me as a bit odd that people can come here complaining about this positive thread being started but the same people were happy to join in with the negative one hotelier started earlier.
Because there is already a positive thread about Steve. I just felt that starting a negative thread was pathetic. Sorry.
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Old 30-12-2004, 17:55
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Because there is already a positive thread about Steve. I just felt that starting a negative thread was pathetic. Sorry.
Surfy!!! I was soooooo not referring to you!
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Old 30-12-2004, 18:15
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Originally Posted by kalla
Seeing as everyone is posting their opinions on Steve I thought I'd say what I thought. Whats the point in starting threads saying that he is not very good 3 weeks after he has won. Just accept it and get on with your lives cos in my opinion and thousands of other people, he is a great singer and hopefully will have a long and successful career.
Well I for one applaud you Kalla for starting a positive thread, so no need for apologies let those who can't take the positive threads praising Steve, just stay out the threads if that's what they want and if they don't like it, and prefer being negative.

If as a couple of posters have said that they don't care for Steve and are only putting their points across and speaking their minds, well then. I will speak mine. I don't care for G4 or Tabby, so maybe I ought to start a thread slagging off those two acts and see how well that goes down with these poster's. I like Steve, think he is an excellant singer, deserved to win X Factor ( and that is what really gets up the nose of some forum member's and is the crux of it. Steve beat their faves, was/is BETTER than their fave acts and they can't accept that ), and I will stick up for him against any negative posts he doesn't deserve if I feel like it

You keep posting these positive threads and posts, don't let some scare you off, I will always be here to back you up
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Old 30-12-2004, 18:20
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Originally Posted by emzy.c.
Jesus y is everyone feeling the need to strike each other down for having their own opinion. I posted my opinion on the other thread. I stand by it as it is my opinion. Some people like Steve, some people don't like Steve, why do we have to have the same rows all the time!!

Yes we get it I like Steve, but think G4 and Tabby are crap, there. As we are now being totally honest and feel it is ok to start up negative but not positive posts about Steve, then from now on, G4 and Tabby will only get negative posts from me, although I have held back and not seen the need before, well no more. Lets see how other fans take such negative critisism for a change.
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Old 30-12-2004, 18:21
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whats wrong with a positive thread, it gives people a chance to add what they think of an act without having to go onto a "team " thread,....i think steves good too
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Old 30-12-2004, 18:26
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Originally Posted by baileybots
whats wrong with a positive thread, it gives people a chance to add what they think of an act without having to go onto a "team " thread,....i think steves good too

I think positive threads are fine too.
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Old 30-12-2004, 19:15
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do a positive and a negative cancel each other out ?? He he he he he he he he
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Old 30-12-2004, 19:21
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Originally Posted by wee_ding_dong
Surfy!!! I was soooooo not referring to you!
lol oh right ok then! phew!

me jumping to conclusions again.....
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Old 30-12-2004, 19:37
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Originally Posted by surfchick
lol oh right ok then! phew!

me jumping to conclusions again.....
S'okay.......how could I ever find fault with our very own lovely Surfy Sophie? ......well apart from being cheap when it comes to buying magazines! lol
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Old 30-12-2004, 20:31
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Originally Posted by Susann
Well I for one applaud you Kalla for starting a positive thread, so no need for apologies let those who can't take the positive threads praising Steve, just stay out the threads if that's what they want and if they don't like it, and prefer being negative.

If as a couple of posters have said that they don't care for Steve and are only putting their points across and speaking their minds, well then. I will speak mine. I don't care for G4 or Tabby, so maybe I ought to start a thread slagging off those two acts and see how well that goes down with these poster's. I like Steve, think he is an excellant singer, deserved to win X Factor ( and that is what really gets up the nose of some forum member's and is the crux of it. Steve beat their faves, was/is BETTER than their fave acts and they can't accept that ), and I will stick up for him against any negative posts he doesn't deserve if I feel like it

You keep posting these positive threads and posts, don't let some scare you off, I will always be here to back you up
Susann, your second paragraph is very dictatorial, I think.

I'm not a particular Steve fan but I always advocated he would win from day one. The fact he did doesn't "get up my nose" as you put it, it merely proves my assessment of the voting mentality and demograph was correct.

You don't care for Tabby or G4 - fine by me that's your opinion to which you have every right.

I don't particularly care for Steve as an artist but you do not appear to respect that others can hold an opinion in opposition to yours. I would not however denegrate other artists on the show to the point of calling them "crap" , as you have. To be unable to acknowledge any level of merit elsewhere calls into question your ability to produce a balanced assessment in my opinion only of course.
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Old 30-12-2004, 20:52
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Stillrockin. I always say some, I don't and never have included all forum poster's, if you wish to take my above satement as meaning yourself, I can't stop you. Just as you don't care for Steve. I don't care for Tabby or G4, but don't see fit to go starting threads or slagging them off at every opportunity, as some do Steve. If us Stevettes defend Steve and why shouldn't we, that is out perogative.

I am sick to the back teeth to be honest of snide little digs in posts from so called respected forum member's towards Steve, or them telling us they are entitled to their opinions, but when Steve is defended, we are told we are either Steveblind or they cannot criticise Steve without being jumped on What a load of c**p to cover their nastiness.

This why I said although I don't care for Tabby or G4, I normally don't vent any nastiness towards them, but if this nastiness and double Standards on this forum continues, which is so darn easy to see through with some posts, then in future I won't hold back with comments, then maybe by that, some can see just how nasty they are being. If retaliation is wanted, then retaliate I will with a vengence. As I said I am sick to the back teeth at times with the double Standards on this forum There, I feel much better for having said that. Take my post as you will.
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Old 30-12-2004, 22:13
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Originally Posted by Susann
Stillrockin. I always say some, I don't and never have included all forum poster's, if you wish to take my above satement as meaning yourself, I can't stop you. Just as you don't care for Steve. I don't care for Tabby or G4, but don't see fit to go starting threads or slagging them off at every opportunity, as some do Steve. If us Stevettes defend Steve and why shouldn't we, that is out perogative.

I am sick to the back teeth to be honest of snide little digs in posts from so called respected forum member's towards Steve, or them telling us they are entitled to their opinions, but when Steve is defended, we are told we are either Steveblind or they cannot criticise Steve without being jumped on What a load of c**p to cover their nastiness.

This why I said although I don't care for Tabby or G4, I normally don't vent any nastiness towards them, but if this nastiness and double Standards on this forum continues, which is so darn easy to see through with some posts, then in future I won't hold back with comments, then maybe by that, some can see just how nasty they are being. If retaliation is wanted, then retaliate I will with a vengence. As I said I am sick to the back teeth at times with the double Standards on this forum There, I feel much better for having said that. Take my post as you will.
Susann, chill...you're too involved... this is like some personal crusade.

I didn't take your original post as particularly relating to me. I don't usually read these types of threads or post on them because in my opinion they are a complete waste of time and have no merit in a logical debate. They are full of emotional illogical statements which have no bearing on any particular artist's ability in the music business. However, unwisely, I have involved myself today and brought forth this flood of invective.

I don't understand the necessity to constantly refute every adverse comment about Steve - find it easier to let it ride as that person's opinion and move on. At the end of the day any individual opinion is of little consequence in the overall scheme of things. All the fire and brimstone and personal affrontery seems like a lot of energy to expend in relation to a TV show.

Perhaps, I'm too laid back..I've spent too long cultivating logic at the expense of emotion....
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Old 30-12-2004, 22:23
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..I've spent too long cultivating logic at the expense of emotion....[/quote]

Are you Mr Spock?
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Old 30-12-2004, 22:24
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Originally Posted by Spiv
..I've spent too long cultivating logic at the expense of emotion....
Are you Mr Spock?[/quote]
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Old 30-12-2004, 22:28
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Originally Posted by stillrockin
Perhaps, I'm too laid back..I've spent too long cultivating logic at the expense of emotion....

What no emotion at all.........
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Old 30-12-2004, 22:40
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Originally Posted by Spiv
..I've spent too long cultivating logic at the expense of emotion....
Are you Mr Spock?[/quote]
I'm beginning to think so after reading some of this stuff
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Old 30-12-2004, 22:40
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Originally Posted by annabelle
What no emotion at all.........
Minimal...I find it clouds the issue
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