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Old 11-02-2013, 23:06
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Pearls before swine.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:06
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I wasnt sure about the whole thing!
It started off well and then went off the boil. He was super creepy as robot Ash though.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:07
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I really didn't like this episode I loved the last series (only saw the last two eps, have yet to watch the PM ****ing the pig episode) but this one I did not find good at all. I could not engage with the lead actor and actress at all. And the ending was just.. oh.

Next weeks looks good by the mini advert we saw. And I adore Lenora Crichlow so hopefully it'll be better than this one.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:07
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That scream she did was awful acting before it cut away from her
But apart from that she was good
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:07
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Well I enjoyed it.

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Old 11-02-2013, 23:08
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Quite liked that. Nice mislead for the creepy ending. Looking forwards to the rest.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:08
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So in the end she decided to keep the living memory of her husband as she couldn't let go of him.

She didn't jump or there would be no daughter.

The premise was good. How much of your online presence could allow people to create an artificial you. There were obviously cracks as gaps in his knowledge broke the fourth wall for her. The question is did his crying pull at her heart strings enough for her to keep him and start a new relationship or did she keep him so her daughter would have a father - so to speak.

It was also about grief and how hard it is to let go.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:08
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The ending was weird though. It should have just ended with the scream.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:08
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Well I enjoyed it.

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how do we know?!
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:09
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Well, having read through the thread, I can't decide,... should I or should I not bother watching this tomorrow?


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Old 11-02-2013, 23:09
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The ending was weird though. It should have just ended with the scream.
agreed, it was still below par tho
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:11
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When Ash only existed online, it was interesting and even plausible. However, once clone Ash appeared, the leap into more extreme science-fiction was too jarring.

And yeah, the end was a bit of a cop out. She realised he wasn't really Ash. Until he cried a bit, cos she told him too. And so she went back to not being able to let him go again.

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Old 11-02-2013, 23:11
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Well, having read through the thread, I can't decide,... should I or should I not bother watching this tomorrow?


Always watch to make up your own mind.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:12
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Someone said Ash committed suicide as he was obsessed with artificial life after death thats not true right?
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:13
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Well, having read through the thread, I can't decide,... should I or should I not bother watching this tomorrow?



Watch. I didn't like it, but you might.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:14
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The ending was weird though. It should have just ended with the scream.
No I liked the ending; the whole idea that she can't let go completely and the "doll" (or whatever it is) becomes not a subsitute for the real thing but an occasional indulgence; like pulling out the family photo album and going through it every so often. I thought it was quite thought provoking in its way.

I also like the idea that you could bring someone back from the dead not in the old cliched sci-fi way of transplaning their brain into another body but by recreating their personality and memories from their online history. I actually think that would probably be possible one day.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:15
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I thought it was interesting, reminded me of "Solaris" in a couple of the more intimate moments.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:15
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Someone said Ash committed suicide as he was obsessed with artificial life after death thats not true right?
No he died in a car crash as the scene where the rental van company said the vehicle hadn't been returned.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:15
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so the message is.....people are stupid, technology is over rated and facebook is shit
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:16
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Was okay. Can't say more than that I think. Some good bits though.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:17
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No I liked the ending; the whole idea that she can't let go completely and the "doll" (or whatever it is) becomes not a subsitute for the real thing but an occasional indulgence; like pulling out the family photo album and going through it every so often. I thought it was quite thought provoking in its way.

I also like the idea that you could bring someone back from the dead not in the old cliched sci-fi way of transplaning their brain into another body but by recreating their personality and memories from their online history. I actually think that would probably be possible one day.
That is what I liked about this. I'm surprised about all the negativity, to be honest.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:17
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so the message is.....people are stupid, technology is over rated and facebook is shit
I think that's the message of Black Mirror in general But I like the idea that there's a kind of general world view that links the different stories together.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:17
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It makes me laugh that people try to judge something that they're barely watching because they're posting on the internet at the same time. Unless you give something your full attention how can you give a reasoned opinion?

It's the same with the Utopia thread - people complaining about the plausibility of a piece of technology or whether someone would do such & such a thing 'in real life'. It's a story, as long as it follows its own internal logic it should be enjoyable (or not) on its own terms. Picking holes in things like whether it's realistic or not is disingenuous.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:17
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I loved it actually. The kind of thing that stays with you well after you've watched it. The pig episode did too, but in a more sinister way.
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Old 11-02-2013, 23:18
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No I liked the ending; the whole idea that she can't let go completely and the "doll" (or whatever it is) becomes not a subsitute for the real thing but an occasional indulgence; like pulling out the family photo album and going through it every so often. I thought it was quite thought provoking in its way.

I also like the idea that you could bring someone back from the dead not in the old cliched sci-fi way of transplaning their brain into another body but by recreating their personality and memories from their online history. I actually think that would probably be possible one day.
Yes, well put - the clone Ash becomes like the photos of Ash's brother -kept in the attic when gone.

Leaving aside the SF elements, the obvious source for this was Truly Madly Deeply, except that unlike in that film, she doesn't move on.

I liked it - Hayley Atwell was excellent, a million miles better than in the awful Restless over xmas, I just think it would have been better to stop it at Ash the phone voice - that was enough really.
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