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Flash on Android 4.xx
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martytoo
28-01-2013
Having recently taken the plunge and bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. I found it frustrating that a number of News sites require Flash to view their videos.
Adobe of course don't support Flash on Android, however Computer Active Magazine provided a solution http:/www.snipca.com/8052 you must change security settings to allow installation from unknown sources however.
paulbrock
28-01-2013
I'd suggest downloading from a reputable site rather than an anonymous link.

The obvious place to go to download the Flash apk (install package) is Adobe's website.

http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/...-versions.html

Chrome won't support flash even if you install it, so you'll also need another browser; I use Firefox, available on Google Play.
Ultraman1966
28-01-2013
Originally Posted by martytoo:
“Having recently taken the plunge and bought a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1. I found it frustrating that a number of News sites require Flash to view their videos.
Adobe of course don't support Flash on Android, however Computer Active Magazine provided a solution http:/www.snipca.com/8052 you must change security settings to allow installation from unknown sources however.”

Makes you wonder how thousands of iPads/iPhones view that content, doesn't it? I certainly am curious...
Gill P
29-01-2013
We are having the same problem. What does annoy us is that the salesman at PCWorld didn't mention this. My son, who works in IT, reckons that the developers who design these sites use Apple and so they don't consider using Android - or rather devloping for both systems.

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“Chrome won't support flash even if you install it, so you'll also need another browser; I use Firefox, available on Google Play.”

Can we use Firefox and still keep Chrome on the tablet?
clonmult
29-01-2013
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“We are having the same problem. What does annoy us is that the salesman at PCWorld didn't mention this. My son, who works in IT, reckons that the developers who design these sites use Apple and so they don't consider using Android - or rather devloping for both systems.

Can we use Firefox and still keep Chrome on the tablet?”

Your son needs to brush up on his history ....

These sites are likely just older ones designed in the days when flash was the way to go. As a result, the sites will just not work on the iPad.

There's one of the educational sites that I use for my youngest, works fine with Firefox on my Nexus 7, just fails completely on my iPhone 4S.

Sure, you can run as many browsers in parallel as you want on Android. Its just another application
flagpole
29-01-2013
the dolphin browser on android can set it's user agent to iPad.

useful for the odd site that has a non flash iPad version but doesn't know about chrome.
Gill P
29-01-2013
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“Your son needs to brush up on his history ....”

I think he was just generalising.
paulj48
29-01-2013
Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“Chrome won't support flash even if you install it, so you'll also need another browser; I use Firefox, available on Google Play.”

You sure about that?

My Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 with Flash sideloaded works with the stock browser on sites with Flash content ok.
flagpole
29-01-2013
Originally Posted by paulj48:
“You sure about that?

My Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 with Flash sideloaded works with the stock browser on sites with Flash content ok.”

yes.

the stock browser from ICS(?), which is not chrome, worked with flash.

chrome does not. i don't see why it couldn't treat it like any other plugin. but i guess they want a clean break.
paulj48
29-01-2013
The stock browser with the latest update on the Tab 2 (I assumed it was chrome as thats what paulbrock said the OP would have to change on his Tab 2)

What is the stock browser on the Tab 2? dont really use it much as its my sons Tab
Magic Cottage
29-01-2013
Originally Posted by clonmult:
“Your son needs to brush up on his history ....

These sites are likely just older ones designed in the days when flash was the way to go. As a result, the sites will just not work on the iPad.”

What old sites like BBC News you mean?
paulbrock
29-01-2013
Originally Posted by paulj48:
“The stock browser with the latest update on the Tab 2 (I assumed it was chrome as thats what paulbrock said the OP would have to change on his Tab 2)

What is the stock browser on the Tab 2? dont really use it much as its my sons Tab”

Was thinking of my Nexus 7, where Chrome is the default browser. I think everything with Android 4.1 onwards has Chrome as default rather than the Android browser, and as others have said, the default browser will use Flash if installed, and Chrome will not.

(Also yes to being able to install Firefox without replacing Chrome)
flagpole
29-01-2013
Originally Posted by paulj48:
“The stock browser with the latest update on the Tab 2 (I assumed it was chrome as thats what paulbrock said the OP would have to change on his Tab 2)

What is the stock browser on the Tab 2? dont really use it much as its my sons Tab”

Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“Was thinking of my Nexus 7, where Chrome is the default browser. I think everything with Android 4.1 onwards has Chrome as default rather than the Android browser, and as others have said, the default browser will use Flash if installed, and Chrome will not.

(Also yes to being able to install Firefox without replacing Chrome)”

I think the default browser may depend on whether the device was shipped with JB or updated to it.

i think if it was updated to it the default browser wouldn't change although chrome may be installed.

incidentally the android browser is still installed on native JB devices and used for things like in app html rendering. weirdly.
Gormond
29-01-2013
Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“I'd suggest downloading from a reputable site rather than an anonymous link.

The obvious place to go to download the Flash apk (install package) is Adobe's website.

http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/...-versions.html

Chrome won't support flash even if you install it, so you'll also need another browser; I use Firefox, available on Google Play.”

The link posted is from Adobe so is perfectly fine http://download.macromedia.com/pub/f...player_ics.apk is where it redirects to.
!!11oneone
29-01-2013
Originally Posted by Magic Cottage:
“What old sites like BBC News you mean? ”

BBC content works fine on my Galaxy Nexus through Chrome
Magic Cottage
29-01-2013
Originally Posted by !!11oneone:
“BBC content works fine on my Galaxy Nexus through Chrome”

Through Chrome. How? Chrome doesn't support flash and when I installed it BBC content certainly didn't work.
!!11oneone
29-01-2013
Dunno, but I don't seem to have a problem.
neo_wales
30-01-2013
Originally Posted by Gill P:
“We are having the same problem. What does annoy us is that the salesman at PCWorld didn't mention this. My son, who works in IT, reckons that the developers who design these sites use Apple and so they don't consider using Android - or rather devloping for both systems.

Can we use Firefox and still keep Chrome on the tablet?”

Yep, I've got Chrome and FF on my android tablet. It runs Android 4.0.4 I've no problem with sites like the beeb.
Magic Cottage
30-01-2013
Originally Posted by neo_wales:
“Yep, I've got Chrome and FF on my android tablet. It runs Android 4.0.4 I've no problem with sites like the beeb.”

I know Firefox works with Flash but frankly don't see how BBC flash content works on Chrome. Chrome does not support Flash.
martytoo
30-01-2013
Originally Posted by paulbrock:
“I'd suggest downloading from a reputable site rather than an anonymous link.

The obvious place to go to download the Flash apk (install package) is Adobe's website.

http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/...-versions.html

Chrome won't support flash even if you install it, so you'll also need another browser; I use Firefox, available on Google Play.”

The CA link does take you to an Adobe site, I too use Firefox on my Tablet (I recently switched to 64 Bit Waterfox for my desktop).
neo_wales
31-01-2013
Originally Posted by Magic Cottage:
“I know Firefox works with Flash but frankly don't see how BBC flash content works on Chrome. Chrome does not support Flash.”

Chrome comes with adobe flash player built in.
flagpole
31-01-2013
Originally Posted by neo_wales:
“Chrome comes with adobe flash player built in.”

nope. not the mobile version.
Magic Cottage
31-01-2013
Originally Posted by flagpole:
“nope. not the mobile version.”

Exactly. I think the is confusion here.
robcole2012
31-01-2013
People winge that the iPad/iphone & now android doesn't have flash. But the reason is that its insecure like java & adobe reader & basically anything with adobe in the name. Alot of new sites are built using html5 these days which dont need flash. For example if you go to youtube.com/html5 on your desktop/laptop you can opt out of flash altogether & just use the html5 version
Gormond
31-01-2013
Originally Posted by robcole2012:
“People winge that the iPad/iphone & now android doesn't have flash. But the reason is that its insecure like java & adobe reader & basically anything with adobe in the name. Alot of new sites are built using html5 these days which dont need flash. For example if you go to youtube.com/html5 on your desktop/laptop you can opt out of flash altogether & just use the html5 version”

Flash works fine on Android 4.2.1 but I agree that its not really required any more, just the odd site.
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