New Tax on Soft Drinks?

Johnnys Arcade · 29-01-2013, 20:04

It is in the news today that some do - gooders think it would be a good idea to tax fizzy drinks with sugar in them. I think this is bang out of order. What do YOU think?

mackara · 29-01-2013, 20:09

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Originally Posted by Johnnys Arcade

It is in the news today that some do - gooders think it would be a good idea to tax fizzy drinks with sugar in them. I think this is bang out of order. What do YOU think?

Have you got a link?soft drinks are already taxed like any drink is including bottled water.

Johnnys Arcade · 29-01-2013, 20:16

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Originally Posted by mackara

Have you got a link?soft drinks are already taxed like any drink is including bottled water.

I don't have a link. It was in the newspaper & on the TV news.

Johnnys Arcade · 29-01-2013, 20:17

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Originally Posted by mackara

Have you got a link?soft drinks are already taxed like any drink is including bottled water.

And they were talking about an EXTRA Tax!

Jo09 · 29-01-2013, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Johnnys Arcade

And they were talking about an EXTRA Tax!

Yep an extra 20p per litre.

mackara · 29-01-2013, 20:31

Maybe it is an attempt to stop kids getting whizzed out of their heads on caffeine drinks.

puppypower1980 · 29-01-2013, 20:46

Not fair on those of us who want a night at the pub without drinking. Put a tax on it at shops but not pubs.

Plus if they want to tackle childhood obesity do things like close down sweet shops outside school. I drive past a secondary school every morning and about 6 months ago a disused shop opened as a sweet shop and it is heaving before school! How many parents realise this is what the kids are spending their pocket money on or even worse their lunch money and they then skip lunch!

1Mickey · 29-01-2013, 21:18

I wouldn't be against a tax on fizzy drinks if the money actually went to fighting obesity rather than operating on or treating it after its happened but i am against it being used to get more kids on substandard school dinners or providing easy ways out through surgery for more people(not that bariatric surgery always works long term but thats the way its promoted).

degsyhufc · 29-01-2013, 21:20

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Originally Posted by puppypower1980

Not fair on those of us who want a night at the pub without drinking. Put a tax on it at shops but not pubs.

Plus if they want to tackle childhood obesity do things like close down sweet shops outside school. I drive past a secondary school every morning and about 6 months ago a disused shop opened as a sweet shop and it is heaving before school! How many parents realise this is what the kids are spending their pocket money on or even worse their lunch money and they then skip lunch!

Would it effect pub prices?
The proposed alcohol tax wouldn't because pubs already sell above the limit.
Soft drinks are just as expensive, if not moreso, than some alcoholic drinks in pubs.

Scraggy Taters · 29-01-2013, 21:20

MPs will squash the idea.

heavy_rotation · 29-01-2013, 23:05

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Originally Posted by mackara

Maybe it is an attempt to stop kids getting whizzed out of their heads on caffeine drinks.

That'll work

stud u like · 29-01-2013, 23:06

They got this silly idea from France.

koantemplation · 29-01-2013, 23:11

I agree with a fizzy drinks tax, I'd happily pay it.

mickmars · 29-01-2013, 23:14

Pretend that something is "very very bad" for people,then add an extra tax on it.
If only the Mafia had thought of these things,they wouldn't have bothered with prostitution,gambling and racketeering

silentNate · 29-01-2013, 23:54

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Originally Posted by stud u like

They got this silly idea from France.

New York banned soft drinks being sold in venue above a certain size... fine worked out as worse than being caught in possession of cannabis!!

I don't think the bad is such a bad idea as I'm trying to lose weight and soft drinks a deadly

walterwhite · 30-01-2013, 13:12

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Originally Posted by mackara

Maybe it is an attempt to stop kids getting whizzed out of their heads on caffeine drinks.

Perhaps they should tax drinks with caffeine in then.

stud u like · 30-01-2013, 13:16

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Originally Posted by silentNate

New York banned soft drinks being sold in venue above a certain size... fine worked out as worse than being caught in possession of cannabis!!

I don't think the bad is such a bad idea as I'm trying to lose weight and soft drinks a deadly

Not if you drink water but I can only drink spring water and that has VAT on it so that is obviously considered bad for you too.

walterwhite · 30-01-2013, 13:20

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Originally Posted by stud u like

Not if you drink water but I can only drink spring water and that has VAT on it so that is obviously considered bad for you too.

Why can't you drink filtered tap water?

koantemplation · 30-01-2013, 13:21

I'm not sure why people are being defensive on this.

We need to raise money and surely it is better to pay tax on a drink that isn't good for you, than on wages or healthy foods and drinks?

As tobacco tax income decreases it would be a good idea to put it on something else.

stud u like · 30-01-2013, 13:21

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Originally Posted by walterwhite

Why can't you drink filtered tap water?

Not even the cat likes it. The water is awful here but travel 3 miles and it becomes nice.

walterwhite · 30-01-2013, 13:23

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Originally Posted by koantemplation

I'm not sure why people are being defensive on this.

We need to raise money and surely it is better to pay tax on a drink that isn't good for you, than on wages or healthy foods and drinks?

As tobacco tax income decreases it would be a good idea to put it on something else.

Because it's just a random thing to tax isn't it? There is more sugar in an Innocent Smoothie than a can of coke, wonder if they'll tax that as well?

koantemplation · 30-01-2013, 13:40

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Originally Posted by walterwhite

Because it's just a random thing to tax isn't it? There is more sugar in an Innocent Smoothie than a can of coke, wonder if they'll tax that as well?

Tax on most goods is random.

It is better they tax something we don't have to buy and that in general is bad for us, than something we do have to buy and is relatively healthy for us.

The 'but they don't tax so and so' argument is weak.

I drink a lot of soft drinks so this will affect me, but I'm willing to do it rather than have other things taxed more.

epicurian · 30-01-2013, 13:43

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Originally Posted by koantemplation

Tax on most goods is random.

It is better they tax something we don't have to buy and that in general is bad for us, than something we do have to buy and is relatively healthy for us.

The 'but they don't tax so and so' argument is weak.

I drink a lot of soft drinks so this will affect me, but I'm willing to do it rather than have other things taxed more.

Will it make you drink less?

koantemplation · 30-01-2013, 14:13

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Originally Posted by epicurian

Will it make you drink less?

I hope so, I don't like to pay more than £2 for a 2lt bottle.

Johnnys Arcade · 30-01-2013, 20:13

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Originally Posted by epicurian

Will it make you drink less?

Well it will certainly not make me drink less. I survive on soft drinks as a non tea/coffee/alcohol drinker.

29-01-2013, 20:04	#1
Johnnys Arcade Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: 114 Gorgie Road Edinburgh EH11 Posts: 2,744	New Tax on Soft Drinks? It is in the news today that some do - gooders think it would be a good idea to tax fizzy drinks with sugar in them. I think this is bang out of order. What do YOU think?

29-01-2013, 20:09	#2
mackara Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 3,851	Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnys Arcade It is in the news today that some do - gooders think it would be a good idea to tax fizzy drinks with sugar in them. I think this is bang out of order. What do YOU think? Have you got a link?soft drinks are already taxed like any drink is including bottled water.

29-01-2013, 20:16	#3
Johnnys Arcade Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: 114 Gorgie Road Edinburgh EH11 Posts: 2,744	Quote: Originally Posted by mackara Have you got a link?soft drinks are already taxed like any drink is including bottled water. I don't have a link. It was in the newspaper & on the TV news.

29-01-2013, 20:17	#4
Johnnys Arcade Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: 114 Gorgie Road Edinburgh EH11 Posts: 2,744	Quote: Originally Posted by mackara Have you got a link?soft drinks are already taxed like any drink is including bottled water. And they were talking about an EXTRA Tax!

29-01-2013, 20:22	#5
Jo09 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2,551	Quote: Originally Posted by Johnnys Arcade And they were talking about an EXTRA Tax! Yep an extra 20p per litre.

29-01-2013, 20:31	#6
mackara Inactive Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 3,851	Maybe it is an attempt to stop kids getting whizzed out of their heads on caffeine drinks.

29-01-2013, 20:46	#7
puppypower1980 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 61	Not fair on those of us who want a night at the pub without drinking. Put a tax on it at shops but not pubs. Plus if they want to tackle childhood obesity do things like close down sweet shops outside school. I drive past a secondary school every morning and about 6 months ago a disused shop opened as a sweet shop and it is heaving before school! How many parents realise this is what the kids are spending their pocket money on or even worse their lunch money and they then skip lunch!

29-01-2013, 21:18	#8
1Mickey Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 8,080	I wouldn't be against a tax on fizzy drinks if the money actually went to fighting obesity rather than operating on or treating it after its happened but i am against it being used to get more kids on substandard school dinners or providing easy ways out through surgery for more people(not that bariatric surgery always works long term but thats the way its promoted).

29-01-2013, 21:20	#9
degsyhufc Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Up North Posts: 58,791	Quote: Originally Posted by puppypower1980 Not fair on those of us who want a night at the pub without drinking. Put a tax on it at shops but not pubs. Plus if they want to tackle childhood obesity do things like close down sweet shops outside school. I drive past a secondary school every morning and about 6 months ago a disused shop opened as a sweet shop and it is heaving before school! How many parents realise this is what the kids are spending their pocket money on or even worse their lunch money and they then skip lunch! Would it effect pub prices? The proposed alcohol tax wouldn't because pubs already sell above the limit. Soft drinks are just as expensive, if not moreso, than some alcoholic drinks in pubs.

29-01-2013, 21:20	#10
Scraggy Taters Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 3,104	MPs will squash the idea.

29-01-2013, 23:05	#11
heavy_rotation Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Posts: 3,200	Quote: Originally Posted by mackara Maybe it is an attempt to stop kids getting whizzed out of their heads on caffeine drinks. That'll work

29-01-2013, 23:06	#12
stud u like Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Sunny Side Of The Street Posts: 40,105	They got this silly idea from France.

29-01-2013, 23:11	#13
koantemplation Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wolf359 Posts: 96,797	I agree with a fizzy drinks tax, I'd happily pay it.

29-01-2013, 23:14	#14
mickmars Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: 1984 Posts: 7,109	Pretend that something is "very very bad" for people,then add an extra tax on it. If only the Mafia had thought of these things,they wouldn't have bothered with prostitution,gambling and racketeering

29-01-2013, 23:54	#15
silentNate Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Council Estate Posts: 35,538	Quote: Originally Posted by stud u like They got this silly idea from France. New York banned soft drinks being sold in venue above a certain size... fine worked out as worse than being caught in possession of cannabis!! I don't think the bad is such a bad idea as I'm trying to lose weight and soft drinks a deadly

30-01-2013, 13:12	#16
walterwhite Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,729	Quote: Originally Posted by mackara Maybe it is an attempt to stop kids getting whizzed out of their heads on caffeine drinks. Perhaps they should tax drinks with caffeine in then.

30-01-2013, 13:16	#17
stud u like Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Sunny Side Of The Street Posts: 40,105	Quote: Originally Posted by silentNate New York banned soft drinks being sold in venue above a certain size... fine worked out as worse than being caught in possession of cannabis!! I don't think the bad is such a bad idea as I'm trying to lose weight and soft drinks a deadly Not if you drink water but I can only drink spring water and that has VAT on it so that is obviously considered bad for you too.

30-01-2013, 13:20	#18
walterwhite Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,729	Quote: Originally Posted by stud u like Not if you drink water but I can only drink spring water and that has VAT on it so that is obviously considered bad for you too. Why can't you drink filtered tap water?

30-01-2013, 13:21	#19
koantemplation Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wolf359 Posts: 96,797	I'm not sure why people are being defensive on this. We need to raise money and surely it is better to pay tax on a drink that isn't good for you, than on wages or healthy foods and drinks? As tobacco tax income decreases it would be a good idea to put it on something else.

30-01-2013, 13:21	#20
stud u like Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Sunny Side Of The Street Posts: 40,105	Quote: Originally Posted by walterwhite Why can't you drink filtered tap water? Not even the cat likes it. The water is awful here but travel 3 miles and it becomes nice.

30-01-2013, 13:23	#21
walterwhite Forum Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 21,729	Quote: Originally Posted by koantemplation I'm not sure why people are being defensive on this. We need to raise money and surely it is better to pay tax on a drink that isn't good for you, than on wages or healthy foods and drinks? As tobacco tax income decreases it would be a good idea to put it on something else. Because it's just a random thing to tax isn't it? There is more sugar in an Innocent Smoothie than a can of coke, wonder if they'll tax that as well?

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30-01-2013, 13:40	#22
koantemplation Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wolf359 Posts: 96,797	Quote: Originally Posted by walterwhite Because it's just a random thing to tax isn't it? There is more sugar in an Innocent Smoothie than a can of coke, wonder if they'll tax that as well? Tax on most goods is random. It is better they tax something we don't have to buy and that in general is bad for us, than something we do have to buy and is relatively healthy for us. The 'but they don't tax so and so' argument is weak. I drink a lot of soft drinks so this will affect me, but I'm willing to do it rather than have other things taxed more.

30-01-2013, 13:43	#23
epicurian Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 15,890	Quote: Originally Posted by koantemplation Tax on most goods is random. It is better they tax something we don't have to buy and that in general is bad for us, than something we do have to buy and is relatively healthy for us. The 'but they don't tax so and so' argument is weak. I drink a lot of soft drinks so this will affect me, but I'm willing to do it rather than have other things taxed more. Will it make you drink less?

30-01-2013, 14:13	#24
koantemplation Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Wolf359 Posts: 96,797	Quote: Originally Posted by epicurian Will it make you drink less? I hope so, I don't like to pay more than £2 for a 2lt bottle.

30-01-2013, 20:13	#25
Johnnys Arcade Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: 114 Gorgie Road Edinburgh EH11 Posts: 2,744	Quote: Originally Posted by epicurian Will it make you drink less? Well it will certainly not make me drink less. I survive on soft drinks as a non tea/coffee/alcohol drinker.