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Old 30-01-2013, 22:06
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Since I have only just started watching...

1. Are Kathleen and Myra half-siblings or full-siblings?

2. How are Bart and Jennifique related to Myra?

3. Are Theresa and Jacqui and Mercedes half-sisters or cousins?

4. Was Myra ever married to any of her children's fathers?

5. What were the relationships with Myra and her ex's like? (i.e.: one-night-stands, engaged, relationship, lovers, fling?)
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Old 30-01-2013, 22:15
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Since I have only just started watching...

1. Are Kathleen and Myra half-siblings or full-siblings?

2. How are Bart and Jennifique related to Myra?

3. Are Theresa and Jacqui and Mercedes half-sisters or cousins?

4. Was Myra ever married to any of her children's fathers?

5. What were the relationships with Myra and her ex's like? (i.e.: one-night-stands, engaged, relationship, lovers, fling?)
1. Think full, not sure if it has actually been mentioned though, could be wrong

2. Bart is Myra's nephew, don't know about Jen person. Actualy if I remember rightly she was the niece of Myra but a cousin to Bart and Theresa too.

3. Jacqui and Mercy have the same dad. Theresa is their cousin and Kathleen's daughter.

4. Not that we know of,I don't think.

5. JP, Carmel and Michaela's dad did return at he beginning but was a bad 'un - he stole their xmas pressies! Not sure we saw anything about Tina's dad, and have no idea re Mercy and Jacqui!

Have nooo idea where someone got this info so may not be correct, but may have some info!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McQueen_family
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Old 30-01-2013, 22:23
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1. Are Kathleen and Myra half-siblings or full-siblings?
I believe there full siblings.

2. How are Bart and Jennifique related to Myra?
I think Bart is a distant cousin and Jennifique is Myra's niece.

3. Are Theresa and Jacqui and Mercedes half-sisters or cousins?
They're both, Jacqui and Mercy are full sisters and it was revealed that Jacqui's father Billy was also Theresa dad, its like the hill billies
4. Was Myra ever married to any of her children's fathers?
No from what has been said on the show

5. What were the relationships with Myra and her ex's like? (i.e.: one-night-stands, engaged, relationship, lovers, fling?)
Niall was from her first boyfriend can't remember his name, I think he was her true love from they way she spoke he got killed if memory serves me right.

Jacqui and Mercy was straight after when she was 15 and obviously didn't last.

Tina was a brief fling.

Carmel, JP and Michaela dad was called Ricky and he must of not lasted longer either, he stole their stuff from xmas one time, never to been seen again!

They've only really been briefly mentioned over the years.
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Old 30-01-2013, 22:26
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1. Think full, not sure if it has actually been mentioned though, could be wrong

2. Bart is Myra's nephew, don't know about Jen person

3. Jacqui and Mercy have the same dad. Theresa is their cousin and Kathleen's daughter.

4. Not that we know of,I don't think.

5. JP, Carmel and Michaela's dad did return at he beginning but was a bad 'un - he stole their xmas pressies! Not sure we saw anything about Tina's dad, and have no idea re Mercy and Jacqui!
1. Kathleen is her half sister.

2. Right about Bart, Jennifique is also Myra's niece,

3. Correct

4. Correct, never married.

5. Niall's dad (her first child who was adopted)'s dad Martin was a one night stand. The older 3's dads haven't really been expanded on.

It gets confusing because Jacqui and Mercedes dad William also fathered Theresa I think.
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Old 30-01-2013, 22:29
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Johnpaul michaela carmel have the same dad, im sure tinas dad was a one night stand - i vaguely remeber myra and tina discussing her dad in a car and something about bingo
Nials dad died in jail (think his name was billy butler i or might of just completely made that up) thanx to jack arresting him, mercedes and jacquis dad returned needing a kidney for his daughter and kathleen lied saying he was theresas dad so they could make some money out of him. Jacqui was about to donate but her step sister lied to her saying her dad was just using her to stop her donating because she was vulnerable after the rape. They havent been seen since.
I always presumed bart theresa and jenerfique where all cousins. Nana has a ridiculous amount of kids!

I hope some of that helped, it doesnt make much sense to me either
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Old 30-01-2013, 22:35
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Well here is what I was able to find out from the Wikipedia page.

Nana was married to a man named Reggie and apparently had two children: Kathleen and whoever Jennifique's parents were. Myra grew up without a father in her life, and since there is no mention of Reggie, I'm thinking affair and Reggie left?

Nana had a sister named Mary, who had a son named Victor, who had Bart, so Bart is Myra's first cousin once removed. If I did the math right.

Jacqui and Mercy are full-siblings, Theresa is their paternal half-sister and maternal (half?)-cousin. And I think there was another half-sister.

Martin Brownlow was a relationship, Billy Alexander must have been a fling (at the same time with Kathleen maybe?), Ricky Bowden must have been a fling also and Marvin Bassman (Tina's father) was a one-night-stand.

And I didn't think Myra was married either.

I might be wrong about these, since Wikipedia isn't really that accurate.
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Old 30-01-2013, 22:48
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who are the grandchildren of Myra.

Tina had a son I think. where is he.

mercedes has a son. Bobby.

John Paul has a child. what's his name?

any others.
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Old 30-01-2013, 22:51
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who are the grandchildren of Myra.

Tina had a son I think. where is he.

mercedes has a son. Bobby.

John Paul has a child. what's his name?

any others.
Russ ran away with tinas baby, bobby is with carl. There is also kathleen angel but she isnt technically myras grandkid.

John pauls baby is called matthew jesus! Matthew named after niall who tried to blow up the mcqueens and killed tina

And bart could be the father of sineads sprog but that wouldnt be myras grandkid either
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Old 30-01-2013, 22:53
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Russ ran away with tinas baby, bobby is with carl. There is also kathleen angel but she isnt technically myras grandkid.

John pauls baby is called jesus!

And bart could be the father of sineads sprog but that wouldnt be myras grandkid either
Are you for real :sleep:
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Old 30-01-2013, 22:54
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Are you for real :sleep:
Yeah just edited my post, matthew jesus
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Old 30-01-2013, 22:57
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Yeah just edited my post, matthew jesus
aww. would of been funnier of he really was called Jesus.
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Old 30-01-2013, 23:12
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Johnpaul michaela carmel have the same dad, im sure tinas dad was a one night stand - i vaguely remeber myra and tina discussing her dad in a car and something about bingo
Nials dad died in jail (think his name was billy butler i or might of just completely made that up) thanx to jack arresting him, mercedes and jacquis dad returned needing a kidney for his daughter and kathleen lied saying he was theresas dad so they could make some money out of him. Jacqui was about to donate but her step sister lied to her saying her dad was just using her to stop her donating because she was vulnerable after the rape. They havent been seen since.
I always presumed bart theresa and jenerfique where all cousins. Nana has a ridiculous amount of kids!

I hope some of that helped, it doesnt make much sense to me either
we have no reason to believe that Kathleen lied about billy being theresa's dad! It was never confirmed,i think we are supposed to take it that billy is Ts dad as him and kathleen must have slept with each other otherwise Kathleen could never have demanded the money from him
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Old 30-01-2013, 23:18
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we have no reason to believe that Kathleen lied about billy being theresa's dad! It was never confirmed,i think we are supposed to take it that billy is Ts dad as him and kathleen must have slept with each other otherwise Kathleen could never have demanded the money from him
Oh i thought she was just up to her scamming tricks are you sure it wasnt confirmed he wasnt theresas dad? I did say not much of what i wrote made sense im just going of what i can remember! Im sure someone will let us know
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Old 30-01-2013, 23:25
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Although i wouldnt be put it past her,im pretty sure theresa atleast believes that he is her dad

But hey you could be right i just dont remember it!
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Old 30-01-2013, 23:27
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Pretty sure that he is in fact her dad.

Even if he isn't, Theresa thinks he is, and so do the rest of the family.
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Old 30-01-2013, 23:35
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It was made clear that Kathleen made the thing up. She was threatening Billy to pay her £2,000 if Theresa was a match or she'd tell the truth.

It was very on the spot, and you could tell from Billy's reaction that he had no idea where Kathleen was going with this. Also, Billy was out of Myra's life since Mercedes was born. It's very unrealistic that he bumped in to her little sister 10 years later and had a fling. Kathleen would have rubbed that in Myra's face if she had only done it to annoy her, but no she kept it quiet for 18 years. Hardly. And Kathleen wouldn't have been a teenager when Billy walked out on Myra, she would have saw all the hurt her family went through, bit doubtful that you'd betray your family with something like this about something that happened when you were so young. And she'd have clearly mentioned she bumped in to him, never mind conceived a baby with him.

A few weeks later, Jacqui was calling Theresa her cousin. And Theresa did throw her mother out after the scheme was discovered and told her never to come back.



Bart is the son of Myra's first cousin, who wasn't a great father to Bart. Jennifique is a first cousin but that's all that has been mentioned. Tina was conceived with a fling Myra had with a bingo caller.

Jacqui and Mercedes also have another sister through their father, but they don't have contact after they found out she was only wanting to get to know them for the kidney transplant.

I do not like how John-Paul called his baby Matthew at all
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Old 30-01-2013, 23:38
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Although i wouldnt be put it past her,im pretty sure theresa atleast believes that he is her dad

But hey you could be right i just dont remember it!
Pretty sure that he is in fact her dad.

Even if he isn't, Theresa thinks he is, and so do the rest of the family.
When Joel turned up looking to find his father, Theresa told him she never knew her father.

Her other 'dad', the one she came in to the show mentioning, also left an inheritance for her to collect when she came of age. That was the reason Kathleen first turned up, to nick the money, but Myra forbade it.
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Old 31-01-2013, 00:04
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Thanx quidditchbabe i was quite convinced kathleen had made the whole thing up and was blackmailing him and im glad im not going mad, i knew tinas father had something to do with bingo
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Old 31-01-2013, 00:11
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Here's something that has never been addressed. Kathleen claimed Billy was Theresa dad in the hope of getting cash as his other daughter needed a transplant, but Theresa wasn't a match so she never got any money, so was she lying about Billy being her father? It was never explained, so we don't know if they are just cousins or sisters and cousins. Edit, just realised this has been covered up there.

Another thing that annoyed me about Theresa was that, agreeing to cover up her murder of Calvin, the deal was the Carmel brought up Kathleen Angel but none of that is ever mentioned and they are best friends...
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Old 31-01-2013, 01:28
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There always seems to be more McQueens in the HO cupboard!! I would imagine when they start thinning out which will take a time as so many of them now, we'll find Nial had an illegitimate child he never knew he had and he/she will aim for the McQueens!!!

I know Ricky turned up in HO and was JP, Carmels and Michaelas dad, so we did get to see a bit of him so he must've been with Myra for a while, but he was a wrong 'un!!!!
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Old 31-01-2013, 02:07
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I missed the some of the eps at xmas, but can someone tell me about Matthew, did JP have a ONS and how did the mother find JP to leave Matthew in the doorstep? What happened to Mcdean?
Thanks in advance
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Old 31-01-2013, 02:56
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Jacqui and Mercy (81-83) share Billy as thier dad.

Tina (85) has a dad we've not seen.

Carmel (87) JP (89) and Michaela (91) all share the same dad. However it was later revealed Theresa (93) was also fathered by Billy making her Jacqui and Mercys half sister.

Myra has 5 sisters and 1 brother I believe (mimicking her own children) Bart is her brothers son, Theresa and her four sisters belong to Kathleen and Jennifique belongs to another sister.
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Old 31-01-2013, 21:49
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I missed the some of the eps at xmas, but can someone tell me about Matthew, did JP have a ONS and how did the mother find JP to leave Matthew in the doorstep? What happened to Mcdean?
Thanks in advance
Matthew's mother was a surrogate, she was a friend of Craig and John Paul who didn't want kids of her own. I presume she knew were JP's family was as she used to be friends with him. JP and Craig have split up and Craig doesnt want anything to do with the baby.

I also think that either Craig or JP could be the father of Matthew, they don't know who is.
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Old 31-01-2013, 22:10
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Matthew's mother was a surrogate, she was a friend of Craig and John Paul who didn't want kids of her own. I presume she knew were JP's family was as she used to be friends with him. JP and Craig have split up and Craig doesnt want anything to do with the baby.

I also think that either Craig or JP could be the father of Matthew, they don't know who is.
Thank you
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Old 31-01-2013, 22:40
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Theresa is Jacqui and Mercedes' half-sister
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