Digital Spy

Search Digital Spy
 

DS Forums

 
 
 

Using set top box with freeview TV


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-02-2013, 10:43
incy wincy
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 535

I'm planning to buy a new TV, a flatscreen with a Freeview tuner in, to replace the ageing CRT in the bedroom. We use a Humax set top box at the moment which has a recording function and would like to continue using this. Will it be possible to keep viewing Freeview through this with the new TV or will we have to use the tuner in the TV?

If specific models are an issue, I'm looking at something like the LG PA4500.
incy wincy is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 03-02-2013, 11:34
grahamlthompson
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Redditch Worcs
Posts: 15,294
You can use either the TV tuner or the settop box tuner for instance if the channel you want isn't available because of what you are recording simply switch to the TV tuner. If you say which Humax pvr you have could be more specific as to connections.
grahamlthompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 13:48
Chris Frost
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 4,548
If you have been using the Humax with a CRT TV then you have probably connected using a SCART cable. That would have given the best result.

As long as the new TV has either a SCART connector or one of the adapter cables that allows SCART to connect to the slimmer LED TVs then you can use the same connection. The LG PA4500 series has a direct SCART socket so that's a simple connection with a familiar plug.

If the Humax has a HDMI connection then you would be as well to start making use of that with the new TV. It will do the same job as SCART but just be a less bulky connection. HDMI cables are cheap - Less than a fiver for cables up to 2-3mtr. You can also get versions with right angle plugs. They're a little more money but they are a boon for minimising the space required behind the set when mounting on a wall bracket.
Chris Frost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 14:38
Nigel Goodwin
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: North Derbyshire
Posts: 36,824
I'm planning to buy a new TV, a flatscreen with a Freeview tuner in, to replace the ageing CRT in the bedroom. We use a Humax set top box at the moment which has a recording function and would like to continue using this. Will it be possible to keep viewing Freeview through this with the new TV or will we have to use the tuner in the TV?
To clarify the 'issue' (I don't know why people even think there is an 'issue'?), there's no relation between the internal Freeview and an external PVR, just as there was no relation between the internal analogue tuner and the PVR.
Nigel Goodwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 14:40
Nigel Goodwin
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: North Derbyshire
Posts: 36,824
You can also get versions with right angle plugs. They're a little more money but they are a boon for minimising the space required behind the set when mounting on a wall bracket.
You can also get right angle adaptors, which are probably more useful (I always carry them for mounting sets on walls).

Be aware though, both adaptors and leads have to 'angle' the way you want them - I carry BOTH types of adaptors (LH and RH - so the HDMI lead can be fitted in either direction).
Nigel Goodwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 14:56
grahamlthompson
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Redditch Worcs
Posts: 15,294
You can also get right angle adaptors, which are probably more useful (I always carry them for mounting sets on walls).

Be aware though, both adaptors and leads have to 'angle' the way you want them - I carry BOTH types of adaptors (LH and RH - so the HDMI lead can be fitted in either direction).
You can also get ones that go either way.

http://burasi.co.uk/index.php?i=B002MFWGJE

Or for the ultimate angles

http://www.misco.co.uk/Product/16525...Male-to-Female
grahamlthompson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 15:29
Nigel Goodwin
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: North Derbyshire
Posts: 36,824
I carry the swivelling ones as well, but they are generally too big, and mean you have to space the TV too far off the wall.

The fixed ones (assuming you buy the correct ones) are much lower profile.
Nigel Goodwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 19:39
incy wincy
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 535
Thanks very much guys. It might have seemed like a bit of an obvious question, but new style TVs aren't my forte, we have very ancient TVs in our house and haven't felt the need to upgrade as yet. In fact, I'm only upgrading the bedroom one now because we want to fit a new wardrobe in and need to conserve space.

Yes, it is connected with a SCART so we'll probably continue to do so, but I will look to see if the Humax has an HDMI slot. And thanks for the heads up on angled cables. I'm not sure if it's going to be wall mounted or free standing yet, but either way I'll consider whether angled cables will be beneficial.
incy wincy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2013, 21:36
Nigel Goodwin
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: North Derbyshire
Posts: 36,824
Yes, it is connected with a SCART so we'll probably continue to do so, but I will look to see if the Humax has an HDMI slot. And thanks for the heads up on angled cables. I'm not sure if it's going to be wall mounted or free standing yet, but either way I'll consider whether angled cables will be beneficial.
If it's free standing just use normal straight HDMI leads - but it's only worth using HDMI if it's an HD Freeview PVR, otherwise there's no advantage.
Nigel Goodwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2013, 07:38
Sue_Aitch
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 4,712
Thanks very much guys. It might have seemed like a bit of an obvious question, but new style TVs aren't my forte, we have very ancient TVs in our house and haven't felt the need to upgrade as yet. In fact, I'm only upgrading the bedroom one now because we want to fit a new wardrobe in and need to conserve space.

Yes, it is connected with a SCART so we'll probably continue to do so, but I will look to see if the Humax has an HDMI slot. And thanks for the heads up on angled cables. I'm not sure if it's going to be wall mounted or free standing yet, but either way I'll consider whether angled cables will be beneficial.
You might reconsider having a TV in the bedroom in the first place ...
Sue_Aitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 12:31
Sid Law
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: East Perthshire
Posts: 1,123
If it's free standing just use normal straight HDMI leads - but it's only worth using HDMI if it's an HD Freeview PVR, otherwise there's no advantage.
Beware - some new tellys have NO Scart sockets on the back. Make sure the one you intend to buy has SCART or you'll end up having to buy a new PVR as well.
Sid Law is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 12:35
gomezz
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Buckingham
Posts: 22,172
it's only worth using HDMI if it's an HD Freeview PVR, otherwise there's no advantage.
Do you really tell your customers that? Rather you should telling them that it depends if the PVR upscales better than the TV or if the TV upscaler is better than the PVR and overcomes the disdvantage of having to work on a signal that has had to go through the extra conversions needed to squeeze through a SCART cable.
gomezz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 12:46
Nigel Goodwin
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: North Derbyshire
Posts: 36,824
Beware - some new tellys have NO Scart sockets on the back. Make sure the one you intend to buy has SCART or you'll end up having to buy a new PVR as well.
As far as I'm aware there are no UK TV's that have no SCART's - although many thin sets have SCART via an extension cable because there's no room on the set for a large SCART socket.

Unless you can provide an example of one? - all previous suggestions here though have proved to have a SCART via an extension cable.
Nigel Goodwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 12:49
Nigel Goodwin
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: North Derbyshire
Posts: 36,824
Do you really tell your customers that? Rather you should telling them that it depends if the PVR upscales better than the TV or if the TV upscaler is better than the PVR and overcomes the disdvantage of having to work on a signal that has had to go through the extra conversions needed to squeeze through a SCART cable.
Yes, I don't lie to customers - and it would be pretty unusual now for a TV to have a poorer scaler than a set-top box. The 'best' boxes are probably Humax?, and they have fairly poor scalers, as even a Humax employee admitted on these forums

The 'extra conversions' isn't any concern at all, with many people finding RGB SCART a better picture than HDMI for SD programming.

HDMI is essential for HD sources, pretty pointless otherwise, and much more limiting than SCART.
Nigel Goodwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 12:54
gomezz
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Buckingham
Posts: 22,172
Do you let them judge for themselves so they can make their own minds up which they think is best?
gomezz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2013, 13:12
chrisjr
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Reading
Posts: 20,367
I'm planning to buy a new TV, a flatscreen with a Freeview tuner in, to replace the ageing CRT in the bedroom. We use a Humax set top box at the moment which has a recording function and would like to continue using this. Will it be possible to keep viewing Freeview through this with the new TV or will we have to use the tuner in the TV?

If specific models are an issue, I'm looking at something like the LG PA4500.
You can use either the PVR or the TV. Entirely your choice.

One thing you will be able to do with a new TV with "Freeview" tuner is record two programmes and watch a third all at the same time. ie record two programmes on the Humax and watch the third on the telly using it's tuner.

The only reason you have to use the Humax at the moment is probably because it is the only device you have capable of receiving digital TV. So you don't have the option.

But I presume you may have had a VCR back in the "old days"? If so, did you stop and think about what device you were watching telly on? Probably not. You used the telly for watching and the VCR for recording. But you could have used the VCR for watching as well as recording had you so wished. However unlike the Humax it would only have had one tuner so you could not have watched BBC1 while recording ITV for example solely on a VCR so would be forced to use the TV. The Humax however does have two tuners so you can use one to record from and the other to watch something else at the same time.

But with the digital TV as well you can now record BBC1 and ITV and watch Channel 4 all at the same time if you so wanted.
chrisjr is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:54.