[Verence]

Originally Posted by noise747

which sometimes makes me wonder if it is him or they are just saying that to get money.

they must have had DNA from some where to match up.

They have matched the DNA with that of a bloke descended from Richard's sister, Anne.

[collit]

Originally Posted by Hogzilla

Still sick to bury him there. And no, they ain't. My husband used to live there - I been many times. Gary Lineker is probably the most civilised thing ever to come out of Leicester.

What an utterly foolish statement.

[noise747]

Originally Posted by Verence

They have matched the DNA with that of a bloke descended from Richard's sister, Anne.

Umm, DNA is not 100% even with fresh DNA, so DNA from bones from that long ago will start to break down. How do they know that the bloke is descended of anything to do with Richard?

where are the other graves, if there was a church there?

[treme]

They should hang his body from the nearest lamp post for what he did to those two little boys. I'm literally in tears as I write this. I'll always maintained that pets are kinder than humans. RIP little angles

[MAW]

Originally Posted by treme

They should hang his body from the nearest lamp post for what he did to those two little boys. I'm literally in tears as I write this. I'll always maintained that pets are kinder than humans. RIP little angles

I'm in tears of laughter imagining you doing that

[Tourista]

Originally Posted by treme

They should hang his body from the nearest lamp post for what he did to those two little boys. I'm literally in tears as I write this. I'll always maintained that pets are kinder than humans. RIP little angles

Thanks for the comic post treme.....

[Kolin Klingon]

Is the Queen paying for this?

And will Richy get a Royal reburial at Windsor?

[Tourista]

Originally Posted by Kolin Klingon

Is the Queen paying for this?

And will Richy get a Royal reburial at Windsor?

No & no.

The people of Leicester will probably foot the bill, as he is being buried in their cathedral....

[planets]

Originally Posted by Kolin Klingon

Is the Queen paying for this?

And will Richy get a Royal reburial at Windsor?

no he is to be re-interred at Leicester Cathedral

[collit]

Leicester Cathedral is only 100 yards from where he was found. There is already a memorial in there for him. There are also roads and pubs named after him and a statue in the Castle Gardens. He was well liked in Leicester and spent his last night here, and the last 500 years. It's the obvious place for him to be reburied.

[Dan Fortesque]

Where's his wife buried? I'm sure next to her is where he'd really want to be.

[Chasing Shadows]

Originally Posted by noise747

How do they know that the bloke is descended of anything to do with Richard?

Because, as already explained, he is descended from Richard's sister Anne. That's how family trees work - you can see from a family tree who somebody's parents were, and their grandparents, and their great-grandparents etc etc etc. So, trace back far enough from Michael Ibsen's immediate parents (specifically his mother), and you get back to Anne of York, Duchess of Exeter.

[HenryGarten]

So let me see. The man lost his horse and the someone whacked him over the head!

[Kapellmeister]

Originally Posted by Hogzilla

Yes. They are struggling for tourists, I guess. Think we said before it is like the wrangling for saints' bones you get in 'Cadfael'. But after the evidence of all the obscene ways Leicester people treated his body - it is pretty awful he is not being laid to rest at York.

No surprise. Leicester is a total ****-hole, a city that has shown almost no interest in preserving its past. It's ugly, ugly, ugly, stuffed with grim post-war buildings and shopping malls. The 'cathedral' has only existed since 1927, a glorified parish church much altered by the Victorians. Apart from that fact that Richard III stayed there before Bosworth and was buried there afterwards, Leicester has no claim on the remains at all. There should be a dedicated monument constructed at York Minster, in the Perpendicular Gothic style. A new chantry chapel, the first for 450 years. But no, Leicester has the bones and the vile councillors and mayor are seeing £££ signs flashing before their grasping eyes. Sad but no different to the squabbling over the bones of medieval saints. Everything comes down to money. I doubt most people in Leicester have even heard of the Wars of the Roses.

[Kapellmeister]

Originally Posted by Dan Fortesque

Where's his wife buried? I'm sure next to her is where he'd really want to be.

Anne Neville is buried in Westminster Abbey, not some grotty little parish church like Leicester 'cathedral'.

[Dan Fortesque]

Originally Posted by Kapellmeister

Anne Neville is buried in Westminster Abbey, not some grotty little parish church like Leicester 'cathedral'.

My heart says York Minster, but my head says he would have liked to have been buried next to his wife. I have nothing against Leicester, btw.

[scorpio man]

Everyone is welcome to the piss up at the Blue Boar Inn Leicester tonight @ 20:00.... medieval (out of date) food available courtesy of Tesco

[noise747]

Originally Posted by Chasing Shadows

Because, as already explained, he is descended from Richard's sister Anne. That's how family trees work - you can see from a family tree who somebody's parents were, and their grandparents, and their great-grandparents etc etc etc. So, trace back far enough from Michael Ibsen's immediate parents (specifically his mother), and you get back to Anne of York, Duchess of Exeter.

You can only trace as far back as records go and then they have to be accurate and even our own census is only as accurate as the people who fill them in.

If they said they got the DNA from his wifes body and tested it i may be a bit more trusting and think maybe they are right.

i wonder how long it will be before someone comes up and say it was fake or the DNA was wrong.

it happens a lot, where things have proved wrong over the years.

[Maxwell_Edison]

Originally Posted by scorpio man

Everyone is welcome to the piss up at the Blue Boar Inn Leicester tonight @ 20:00.... medieval (out of date) food available courtesy of Tesco

"My kingdom for a horseburger..."

[Maxwell_Edison]

Originally Posted by Chasing Shadows

Because, as already explained, he is descended from Richard's sister Anne.

So the DNA belongs to someone related to the family - i.e. someone related to Anne but it's not necessarily Richard.

*Starts conspiracy theory*

[hooter]

Richard III bones confirmed...ATOS say`s fit for work..discuss

[dome]

Originally Posted by treme

They should hang his body from the nearest lamp post for what he did to those two little boys. I'm literally in tears as I write this. I'll always maintained that pets are kinder than humans. RIP little angles

And if they discover they were not murdered?

Should we hang you up?

[Serial Lurker]

To be honest it does all sound a bit too good to be true. But if they allow all their findings to be peer reviewed then it should sort it out for sure.

[Gurgles]

Originally Posted by treme

They should hang his body from the nearest lamp post for what he did to those two little boys. I'm literally in tears as I write this. I'll always maintained that pets are kinder than humans. RIP little angles

: this can't be serious - can it?

Originally Posted by collit

Leicester Cathedral is only 100 yards from where he was found. There is already a memorial in there for him. There are also roads and pubs named after him and a statue in the Castle Gardens. He was well liked in Leicester and spent his last night here, and the last 500 years. It's the obvious place for him to be reburied.

Those are my sentiments. I'm so glad he's been found and that he can now have a proper burial.

Originally Posted by Maxwell_Edison

"My kingdom for a horseburger..."

: Genius!!!

[Auntie Climax]

He won't work. He's a lazy bones.