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Old 04-02-2013, 12:40
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He's hoping he may get hired by a company who operate with a skeleton staff.

His hopes of getting a council castle are a bit unrealistic though.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:42
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I thought there was going to be a link to a Daily Mash article
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:44
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I thought there was going to be a link to a Daily Mash article
I don't think DM reporters go anywhere near Leicester. There are quite a lot of immigrants there, it's too scarey for them.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:45
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I don't think DM reporters go anywhere near Leicester. There are quite a lot of immigrants there, it's too scarey for them.
I meant this http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/

I see they've already done one: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/s...-2013020458569
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:47
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You can only trace as far back as records go and then they have to be accurate and even our own census is only as accurate as the people who fill them in.
Why do you think there are no records going back to the fifteenth century? How do you think we know about The Battle of Hastings, the Battle of Stamford Bridge, the War of the Roses, the lives and deaths and issue of every notable person in English (no, world) history going back over a thousand years?

This is a woman who was sister to Edward IV and Richard III, and aunt to Edward V. She was also aunt to Henry Tudor's wife (Elizabeth of York), therefore great-aunt to Henry VIII, so of direct lineage to our current Royal Family. The British Royal Family probably has the most traceable family tree in history - every king and queen (plus their brothers, sisters, wives, husbands, councillors, ladies-in-waiting, best friends, dogs etc) going back to long before William the Conqueror is known, so why on earth do you think that it may be inaccurate?

There's no need to trace back from this Canadian guy and some forms he has filled in, there's no need to disbelieve any claims he is making - just trace forward from Richard, Duke of York, through his children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and you'll arrive at Michael Ibsen. No doubt about it.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:47
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What time and channel is the documentary on tonight?
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:48
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Because, as already explained, he is descended from Richard's sister Anne. That's how family trees work - you can see from a family tree who somebody's parents were, and their grandparents, and their great-grandparents etc etc etc. So, trace back far enough from Michael Ibsen's immediate parents (specifically his mother), and you get back to Anne of York, Duchess of Exeter.
I don't think that is actually correct

I don't think he is related to Anne Neville, Richard's wife - but to Anne of York - Richard's sister.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/9...ns-begins.html

Dr John Ashdown, a historian and genealogist, tracked down Mr Ibsen's mother, Joy, in Canada in 2005 after identifying her as a direct descendant of Anne of York, the King's oldest sister.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:48
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:50
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What time and channel is the documentary on tonight?
It's on Channel 4 at 9 o'clock.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:51
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Some of the posts in the various threads about him today have been hilarious.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:53
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I don't think that is actually correct

I don't think he is related to Anne Neville, Richard's wife - but to Anne of York - Richard's sister.
Correct. I never said he was related to Anne Neville. He wouldn't have any of Richard's DNA if he was descended from Richard's wife. But because he is descended from Richard's sister, therefore descended from Richard, Duke of York (father of Anne, Richard III and Edward IV), his DNA can be traced to match Richard III's.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:57
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That's a fairy story, not history, though see above, probably not the Bard's fault.
Given the thread title, I didn't expect historical accuracy to be quite so high on our list of priorities.
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:58
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Correct. I never said he was related to Anne Neville. He wouldn't have any of Richard's DNA if he was descended from Richard's wife. But because he is descended from Richard's sister, therefore descended from Richard, Duke of York (father of Anne, Richard III and Edward IV), his DNA can be traced to match Richard III's.
No ... I thought someone had ... must have mis quoted ... sorry
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:00
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Richard III bones confirmed...ATOS say`s fit for work..discuss
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:00
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It's on Channel 4 at 9 o'clock.
Thank you! Definitely going to tune in - it sounds fascinating.
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:03
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Just waiting for Isabel Oakeshott's Sunday Times piece about his supposed run for the leadership of the Conservative Party...
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:04
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I wonder if he'll end up on Work Fare in Poundland with the rest of the soulless zombies who work there.
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:04
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He ain't going to Atos, over his dead body.
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:06
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I only know of two people who are on benefits and both have had them stopped after these work interview thingies that are going on at the moment.

One is a girl I have known for years , who is massively depressed and was sorely dissapointed almost to the point of tears when the world didnt end on Dec 21st, she regularly doses up on about 30million tablets to see what happens and I am certain I will one day pop around to find a corpse.
the other is a bloke with one arm having lost the other in a car crash along with damaging his leg, he was an engineer before hand but has something called a brachial plexus injury - tie in loss of limb with MASSIVE extreme pain in the phantom joint every 15-20 minutes or so and repeat that for (so far) 20 years. I have seen this guy creased up in agony so many times it makes me feel it myself almost :S horrible injury that is.

both have had benefits taken away and classed as fit for work.
I am not horrible but I wouldnt employ either and I like them both, so what they are supposed to do I am unsure.

engineer chap said he isnt bothered about the arm but would do anything to lose the pain.
depressed girl is beyond me to be honest - I am almost certain she is doomed (more so now)

crikey!
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:09
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Well that's certainly put a downer on things.
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:13
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I only know of two people who are on benefits and both have had them stopped after these work interview thingies that are going on at the moment.

One is a girl I have known for years , who is massively depressed and was sorely dissapointed almost to the point of tears when the world didnt end on Dec 21st,
she regularly doses up on about 30million tablets to see what happens and I am certain I will one day pop around to find a corpse.
the other is a bloke with one arm having lost the other in a car crash along with damaging his leg, he was an engineer before hand but has something called a brachial plexus injury - tie in loss of limb with MASSIVE extreme pain in the phantom joint every 15-20 minutes or so and repeat that for (so far) 20 years. I have seen this guy creased up in agony so many times it makes me feel it myself almost :S horrible injury that is.

both have had benefits taken away and classed as fit for work.
I am not horrible but I wouldnt employ either and I like them both, so what they are supposed to do I am unsure.

engineer chap said he isnt bothered about the arm but would do anything to lose the pain.
depressed girl is beyond me to be honest - I am almost certain she is doomed (more so now)

crikey!
I am this miserable and I still have to work
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:13
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King Richard:
A horse, a horse! My kingdom for a horse!

Catesby:
Withdraw, my lord; I'll help you to a horse.

King Richard:
Slave! I have set my life upon a cast,
And I will stand the hazard of the die.
Stuff the Bard!

The most relevant statement regarding R3 is:

Oh dear Richard the Third!


Baldrick
22/8/1485
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:16
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Actually, if I was the decendant I would apply to the European Court of Human Rights to get my throne back.

Stand a ruddy good chance imo!
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:16
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Well, if he can hold back the tides, he can probably work.

Oh no, that's King Canute
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Old 04-02-2013, 13:17
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He could get a job at Fort Knox, turning everything into GOLD

Oh no, that's King midas
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