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Old 05-02-2013, 12:17
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Fair enough, but can't you see that it's inappropriate? I have no affiliation with York, London or Leicester but Leicester is clearly the least suitable location, true?
People are not uncommonly buried in the place where they die. Cardinal Wolsey, Archbishop of York, is also buried in Leicester. He has been in Leicester for over five hundred years already, it seems fitting that he stays.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:17
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A petition has recently been set up from people who want him reburied in York:

https://submissions.epetitions.direc.../signature/new

More information about York City Council's views can be found here:

http://www.minsterfm.com/news/local/...e-york-burial/
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:18
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He's been buried in Leicester for 500 years and how many times have the good natives of York, Westminster, Gloucester and wherever else is making a claim have actually made the effort to find and claim him ?

Leicester University found him in Leicester and he stays here.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:21
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He's been buried in Leicester for 500 years and how many times have the good natives of York, Westminster, Gloucester and wherever else is making a claim have actually made the effort to find and claim him ?

Leicester University found him in Leicester and he stays here.
Good point. But Kapellmeister seems to be acting a bit like a spoilt child. So perhaps s/he will better understand 'finders keepers losers weepers'.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:21
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It seems grossly inappropriate for one of England's most famous, controversial and fascinating monarchs to be buried in stinking Leicester!!!
What have you got against Leicester! He's been under one of our car parks for 500 years. That's enough of a tie to the city isn't it.

Anyway, it is best archaeological practice to bury human remains as close to where they were found as possible, and Leicester Cathedral is the nearest consecrated ground.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:24
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does it matter where a pile of old bones is buried? i`d say dying near there was a connection.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:25
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What have you got against Leicester! He's been under one of our car parks for 500 years. That's enough of a tie to the city isn't it.

Anyway, it is best archaeological practice to bury human remains as close to where they were found as possible, and Leicester Cathedral is the nearest consecrated ground.
Fair enough but if they have proof a person had made specific requests as to where they wish to be buried, then I would hope we would honour that request.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:25
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Have you ever been to Leicester, Kappel? I'll agree there are a few streets that smell of curry, but it's not the whole city, nor is it disgusting in any way. It's quite a smart city in some areas, and a great deal less sleazy than quite a few.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:32
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Have you ever been to Leicester, Kappel? I'll agree there are a few streets that smell of curry, but it's not the whole city, nor is it disgusting in any way. It's quite a smart city in some areas, and a great deal less sleazy than quite a few.
Why would anyone want to go to Leicester?? There is simply nothing there of interest. Nearly all its historical buildings have been destroyed but suddenly the city council has discovered a love of history... what a joke. They want to cling onto the bones of Richard III as they know full well that the city has nothing else to offer tourists or people interested in history. Well that's tough. If Leicester has torn down its heritage then that's its own business. Coveting the bones of a medieval king in a vain attempt to increase tourist revenue is nothing short of grotesque.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:34
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Hope it makes us loads of tourist money, just think of all the fun things we could spend the money on. I vote for a life sized solid gold statue of Showaddywaddy. Screw York, finders keepers!!!!
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:37
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Just googled Leicster Cathedral. Looks like an other town parish church, nothing spectacular. York Minster on the other hand is stunning.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:37
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If I really needed a Richard the III I think I'd hold on till Loughborough or Nottingham, Depends on how much I need to go.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:38
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Have you ever been to Leicester, Kappel? I'll agree there are a few streets that smell of curry, but it's not the whole city, nor is it disgusting in any way. It's quite a smart city in some areas, and a great deal less sleazy than quite a few.
Belgrave Road is an excellent place.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:42
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It seems grossly inappropriate for one of England's most famous, controversial and fascinating monarchs to be buried in stinking Leicester!!!

The government should step in and order Leicester to give up the remains for reburial in a suitable location i.e. Westminster Abbey or York Minster. A medieval king should be buried in a fitting location, not squirreled away in a mediocre Victorian parish church with no historical connections to the king. Even Middleham parish church would be preferable! It would be nice if, for once, the right thing could be done.

Seems to me you have more of an issue about Leicester than you do where he will be laid to rest.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:44
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Just googled Leicster Cathedral. Looks like an other town parish church, nothing spectacular. York Minster on the other hand is stunning.
It's a mediocre building. It's not even Grade I listed. The spire is 19th century as is much of the rest of the structure. It was a bog-standard medieval parish church that was almost totally rebuilt by the Victorians. It has no fittings of interest. No architecture of interest. It has only been a 'cathedral' since 1927!
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:45
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It's a mediocre building. It's not even Grade I listed. The spire is 19th century as is much of the rest of the structure. It was a bog-standard medieval parish church that was almost totally rebuilt by the Victorians. It has no fittings of interest. No architecture of interest. It has only been a 'cathedral' since 1927!
But soon it will have Richard III buried in it, which will make it much more interesting and important.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:47
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If I really needed a Richard the III I think I'd hold on till Loughborough or Nottingham, Depends on how much I need to go.
Thats given me an idea, maybe we should build some toilets outside the catherdral and called them the Richard III toilets, what with all the spondoolies that we will be raking in. I'll draft a letter to the Leicester Mercury right now.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:48
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But soon it will have Richard III buried in it, which will make it much more interesting and important.
Plus our solid gold Showaddywaddy statue!!!
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:49
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Plus our solid gold Showaddywaddy statue!!!
Don't forget Gok Wan. Famous son of our streets.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:52
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Don't forget Gok Wan. Famous son of our streets.
Lets make him in Silver!
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:53
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Don't forget Gok Wan. Famous son of our streets.
And that cook woman who used to be on TV.
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Old 05-02-2013, 12:59
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Leicester used to be famous for having a hot air cover at Filbert Street to protect the pitch from snow & ice, but they threw it away when the police refused permission for games in those conditions due to spectator safety. Keith Weller famously played in ladies tights v Norwich when the cold was particularly biting. What more fame & fortune do you want? How about World Cup winning goalkeeper Gordon Banks was playing for Leicester when he won his WC medal. Beat that...

I say leave the King in the place where he was found. Leicester is a decent place underneath all the dodgy bits and it's not far from there to somewhere much nicer.

And will the media ponces stop saying that Richard III was buried under a car-park. He wasn't. He was buried properly; a car park was later laid over him. Semantics I know but it's a big difference.
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Old 05-02-2013, 13:02
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Seems to me you have more of an issue about Leicester than you do where he will be laid to rest.
He's got a thing about our cathedral: it's 'ugly' and a 'glorified parish church' or something, in his opinion.
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Old 05-02-2013, 13:08
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Have you ever been to Leicester, Kappel? I'll agree there are a few streets that smell of curry, but it's not the whole city, nor is it disgusting in any way. It's quite a smart city in some areas, and a great deal less sleazy than quite a few.
Talk about 'damned by faint praise'

Let's compare & contrast, shall we?

Leicester Cathedral

Yeah, it's quite pretty, if rather unremarkable.

But York Minster is in a different league.

Leicester City Centre

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York City Centre
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Old 05-02-2013, 13:11
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Agree with the OP, should be York and if not Westminster Abbey.

But let this be a lesson to anybody royal/famous. If you are feeling poorly, don't go anywhere like Leicester until the Doc gives you the all clear.
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