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Old 05-02-2013, 14:36
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The surgical expertise and specialty required was available in this country. Simple.
Yes, we have so many shooting injuries, here in the UK, our medical staff are second to none in performing surgery.

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Old 05-02-2013, 14:37
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Yes, we have so many shooting injuries our medical staff are second to none in performing surgery.

If you try actually reading the thread and the facts presented about her treatment you might find your eye problem gets better.
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Old 05-02-2013, 14:54
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The surgical expertise and specialty required was available in this country. Simple.
But who pays the bill, the UK taxpayer.
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Old 05-02-2013, 14:55
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She's stated that she wishes to go back to continue her campaign for all girls to be given the same full education opportunities as boys. She's quite emphatic in her views on this.
I certainly wouldn't object to her claiming asylum here. She's one of the few cases where such a claim would be justified.
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Old 05-02-2013, 14:56
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But who pays the bill, the UK taxpayer.
*sigh*
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Old 05-02-2013, 15:00
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I know. So much stupid it hurts!
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Old 05-02-2013, 15:01
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Some of the people in this thread should read some of the words Malala has written. It's not just in Pakistan where people need to learn about equality and tolerance to others.
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Old 05-02-2013, 15:11
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Because we've got the best doctors.

And we're compassionate. As a civilised country should be.
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Old 05-02-2013, 15:18
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So....

We've established that this girl came to the UK because she required emergency follow-up treatment (after the emergency surgery that she received in Pakistan) because we have a specialist unit in Birmingham for shot soldiers, it was paid for by the Pakistani government (and not from British aid funds), that hasn't had any affect on NHS waiting lists, and that she has no intention to claim asylum.

Are there any outstanding gripes concerning this situation?
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Old 05-02-2013, 15:36
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I think there would have been some sense of obligation of the UK towards her because of the fact that she was working for the BBC in writing the blog that resulted in her being shot. So I would suspect that as soon as it became public, the government would have been on the blower to Pakistan, offering help.
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Old 05-02-2013, 15:43
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So you are against people from abroad having private medical treatment in the UK? Presumably you don't think UK citizens should be able to have private treatment abroad either then?
They owe us.

We civilised the world you know.
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Old 05-02-2013, 15:46
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DFS are cheapest. Wait until their next half price sale.

Alternatively the NHS could use their usual suppliers.

Peckham.
You swine!!! You beat me to it (and did it far better than me!)
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Old 05-02-2013, 16:27
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You swine!!! You beat me to it (and did it far better than me!)
I knew watching those ads would be worth it one day.

UKMikey has already answered that! Tut tut, maybe it's time for an eye test old chap!
Long as he's paid for it.
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Old 05-02-2013, 16:31
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I knew watching those ads would be worth it one day.

Long as he's paid for it.
And doesn't go abroad for it!
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Old 05-02-2013, 16:49
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I don't want anyone to feel I am taking over this thread, but I just want to ask a question, Have you seen her? she was on TV yesterday her courage and love for her 'sisters' in countries like this where girls are prevented an education by the ruling class is an inspiration to us all.
She is (once again) starting to campaign for girls to be allowed to go to school in her own country. After what happened that is quite something. don't you think?
I am Proud that Btitain's NHS was able to help this young hero.
Me too. and I hope she stays over here - she might be able to influence some of our lazy and ignorant teenagers to take a bit of interest in their education and realise just how privileged they are to have schools and the freedom to attend them.
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Old 05-02-2013, 17:11
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The hospital bed factory She was brought here because the hospital had the expertungratefulcilities to treat her for mulitiple issues whereas the hospital in Pakistan didn't (as was made clear on BBC news this morning). Her treatment was NOT paid for out of UK taxes (not that that should have made a difference imo) and her father has been employed by the Pakistani govt (which means he will be spending Pakistani tax payers money in the UK). So all in all a bit of a result for the UK. Our medical teams get international kudos plus we get Pakistani cash being spent in the UK and a 15yr girl who is vocal against terrorists in her own country has her life saved so she can continue to campaign against said terrorists (while strengthening the public feeling against teh Taliban/Al Qaeda).

Now, what's there to complain about in any of that?
And the Doctors have gained valuable experience in dealing with complex injuries that they can use on NHS paitents and UK service personel.

And I have just seen that Malala said the doctors were like parents to her so all those people who claim she is ungreatful should shove off.
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Old 05-02-2013, 17:54
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Her treatment was funded by donations/pakistani taxpayers and as the healthcare system in her home nation is for a better word poor then it's right that she was treated here, I see no problem with treating courageous girls or boys like her.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:01
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Not really, health tourism is still health tourism if it impacts on those who been displaced as result.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:05
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Well I've reread this thread and I will only be content with this story if:

1. The medical treatment was paid for privately.
2. That the surgeons who did this were not diverted from helping the wounded in the British army.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:12
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Well I've reread this thread and I will only be content with this story if:

1. The medical treatment was paid for privately.
2. That the surgeons who did this were not diverted from helping the wounded in the British army.
1) It was paid for by the Pakistani government and donations so yes, privately.
2) Are there any wounded British Army guys that you think would prioritise their health over that of a young girl who had been shot?
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:21
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It's unsafe for this little girl to return to Pakistan. Children not only have to deal with The Taliban but also with the Oil Barons/Bankers Drones.

From The Daily Telegraph:

"As many as 168 children have been killed in drone strikes in Pakistan during the past seven years as the CIA has intensified its secret programme against militants along the Afghan border."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-campaign.html
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:27
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Well if we were the country that could provide the best treatment, they were treated at private hospitals and had their costs covered by their own governments then that would be fine.

So, she isn't costing the UK tax payer a penny.
She isn't being treated in an NHS hospital.
Pakistan are paying for her treatment and ongoing costs of her family members during her time here.

What exactly is it you object to?.
They object to having every leg of their argument shot from under them and having none left to stand on. Hence quibbling about semantics.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:27
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Yup, so next time people are knocking the NHS just remember that this country does actually possess world-class medical talent and facilities. Malala could have been sent anywhere but she came to Britain for expert treatment.

Mind you, I saw an article in today's paper where she's thanking God and people's prayers for making her better. She really ought to be thanking the doctors and nurses who have saved her life. Still, she is just a child. With brain damage.


I would imagine that she thanked the surgeons and nurses who cared for her personally. It's what I would have done.

Long may she flourish and continue her good work.
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Old 05-02-2013, 18:56
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Well I've reread this thread and I will only be content with this story if:

1. The medical treatment was paid for privately.
2. That the surgeons who did this were not diverted from helping the wounded in the British army.
Yes, that is correct. Any other concerns?

From what I've read about this young girl, she is worth every penny spent on her and in the future (if not already) is likely to become an inspiration not only to other Pakistani girls and women but also to many in the UK and beyond, as well.

I'm delighted that she is expected to make a complete recovery both physically and mentally and I look forward to her continuing her campaign during the rest of her childhood through into adulthood.
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