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Old 07-02-2013, 23:41
andy741
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Just been rewatching The Snowmen and something small jumped out at me during the scene where The Doctor and Clara are running from the ice lady. Here's how the bit goes:

Ice Lady: That's the way to do it.

Clara : Why does she keep saying that?

Doctor: Mirroring, just random mirroring.


I appreciate I may be clutching at straws here, but Moffat makes little links everywhere, and the fact Clara has now repeated sentences, I'm curious as to if this has any significance. Theories...


Oh and rather than making another thread, a tiny side note about speculation I've seen on here about Matt leaving. Dorium says "At the fall of the Eleventh". This in my eyes either means, The Doctor regenerates meaning he is leaving, or simply means 'the end of the eleventh month', which seems a bit unlikely seeing as its a time travelling show!
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Old 08-02-2013, 00:58
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The brief answer is that there are a number of subtle parrot metaphors associated with Clara during the episode and that's one of them. Notice the camera is on Clara when the Ice Governess says "That's the way to do it !" parrot fashion ...random mirroring. There's another more visual one when Latimer takes a drink soon after.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:37
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I appreciate I may be clutching at straws here, but Moffat makes little links everywhere, and the fact Clara has now repeated sentences, I'm curious as to if this has any significance. Theories...
It's not impossible, but on a surface level it's supposed to be a foreshadowing of the reveal of the Intelligence later, that it's actually just mirroring the thoughts that Simeon has poured into it.

So I suppose you could look at the entire plot as being a metaphor for Clara, or not.

Oh and rather than making another thread, a tiny side note about speculation I've seen on here about Matt leaving. Dorium says "At the fall of the Eleventh". This in my eyes either means, The Doctor regenerates meaning he is leaving, or simply means 'the end of the eleventh month', which seems a bit unlikely seeing as its a time travelling show!
Nice insight! Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I haven't heard this one come up in the speculation yet - if there's any connection to the end of the eleventh month, could it relate to specifically November 23, 1963?
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Old 08-02-2013, 12:32
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Good points not long now. Hope we do get some answers. Finale will probably be when the truth or at least some of it will be revealed.
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Old 08-02-2013, 20:21
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Originally Posted by andy741
Just been rewatching The Snowmen and something small jumped out at me during the scene where The Doctor and Clara are running from the ice lady. Here's how the bit goes:

Ice Lady: That's the way to do it.

Clara : Why does she keep saying that?

Doctor: Mirroring, just random mirroring.


The Doctor had said the line "That's the way to do it" when he was doing his puppet sequence. So the Doctor has seen Punch and Judy before.but to the Ice Lady it was random unless she saw Punch and Judy and then it would be a memory for her. So possibly not random.

Is Clara the character, somehow a 'puppet' of some sort?
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:41
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Maybe wouldn't be surprised if the GI or silence and kovarian have somehow created clara and are using her as a honey trap to draw him out.
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