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Old 10-02-2013, 19:12
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why is there so much negatvity , swearing. and drug references in todays chart music? and hate lyrics?

didnt chart music used to pleasant to listen to? and suitable for all ages to listen to?

take todays number one by thrift shop? if TOTP came back today - it would have to be on after 10pm!

it use to be a joy to tune in to the new top 40 on a sunday and here your fave tunes.

now its just a depressing sad state of affairs. who buys this stuff? what sort of person listens to it? and what does it say about the state of british culture and certain sections of our youth.

a quick glance at itunes and you see "explicit" next to every third or fourth track.

no wonder the majority of touring artists./ bands are over 50. and endless bands are having re-unions. it will stay that way until the record companies wake up and sort it out.

there are 35 music channels on sky, and its lucky if you can find one channel with a decent tune on - and when you do its usually something from the 80s or 90s.

its a really sad state of affairs.
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Old 10-02-2013, 19:26
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I see you're problem .You're using Itunes
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Old 10-02-2013, 22:32
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sadly, all someone has to do in a song is use the f word- and all the gullable go buying.
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Old 11-02-2013, 00:50
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sadly, all someone has to do in a song is use the f word- and all the gullable go buying.
says the person whose profile name is...
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Old 11-02-2013, 01:08
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There have been drugs, sex and violence references in pop music for decades really. So there much that is new in the subject matter but I would agree that some of the lyricism is lazy these days.

There is no reason why pop music shouldn't push the envelope, shouldn't shock at times. it has done in the past. And why shouldn't pop music reflect some of the cultural malaise of the times? I only wish it would do it more often, so much of the chart is second rate dance music.
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Old 11-02-2013, 01:13
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Of all the examples out there OP, you use Thrift Shop? Sure, it's quite heavy on the swearing but it's not negative or promoting hate in the slightest. I mean, it's about a man shopping for some bargains at a thrift shop.

Nothing wrong with that.
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Old 11-02-2013, 01:26
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I think there's certainly much less mention of drugs in the chart than there was during the 2003-2006 period. Probably less swearing and violence as well tbh. Now it's mainly bubblegum dance-pop.
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Old 11-02-2013, 06:14
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I think its been a lot worse before - back when R&B was the big thing there was a lot of mysogynistic lyrics about - when 50 Cent and Nelly and Beenie Man and Eminem were just starting out...

And then you go back to punk etc as well..

The kids probably dont get a lot of it...I mean in my day we had Boom Boom Boom Boom I Want You in my Room and the video has a lesbian stripper in it and sexy twins and we never cottoned on to it as kids, haha
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Old 11-02-2013, 10:22
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I think they should bring back the WOMBLES,uncle bulgaria will sort all the mess out.
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Old 11-02-2013, 11:18
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I think its been a lot worse before - back when R&B was the big thing there was a lot of mysogynistic lyrics about - when 50 Cent and Nelly and Beenie Man and Eminem were just starting out...

And then you go back to punk etc as well..

The kids probably dont get a lot of it...I mean in my day we had Boom Boom Boom Boom I Want You in my Room and the video has a lesbian stripper in it and sexy twins and we never cottoned on to it as kids, haha
Yeah, exactly. I'd say the charts were most "X-rated" when urban music was bigger in the mid-00s.

I was in senior school then, and the thing is, I just got used to it. But now that chart music has gone all soft and bubblegum and euro again, it's shocking looking back at those things. I did much prefer that style of music though, but it was weird how people in the charts would go around shooting each other, and always being put in prison and all that sort of thing. Nowadays the most dramatic thing that seems to happen is when you get Katy Perry saying she doesn't like one of Lady Gaga's music videos and that causes uproar. People are so sensitive now. In the 2002-2006 time period it was like there were 20 Chris Browns in the chart.

Then again, Thrift Shop is one of the first massive hip hop hits in ages, so it's not surprising it's getting people wound up again.

I used to love that Venga Boys song as a kid, but I never had any idea about the music video, and I never made the connection with the suggestive lyrics because I was so innocent. Same with songs like Barbie Girl, I used to love them, only now I listen to the lyrics and see how sexually driven those songs are.
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Old 11-02-2013, 12:46
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I think its been a lot worse before - back when R&B was the big thing there was a lot of mysogynistic lyrics about - when 50 Cent and Nelly and Beenie Man and Eminem were just starting out...

And then you go back to punk etc as well..

The kids probably dont get a lot of it...I mean in my day we had Boom Boom Boom Boom I Want You in my Room and the video has a lesbian stripper in it and sexy twins and we never cottoned on to it as kids, haha
Not one of the people you named is R&B. Stop insulting a genre you know nothing about. I'll give it to you that R&B is heavily sex based, but it has little to do with drugs. Except for Mary Jane, but that's a funk song. Even less to do with violence. When was the last time you heard Robin Thicke or Ginuwine talking about stabbing someone and getting high? Never.
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Old 11-02-2013, 13:24
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It doesn't bother me to be honest but i got to admit that the lyrics in songs these days are awful.

I suppose this is what happens when you let the chav's dominate music.
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Old 11-02-2013, 16:11
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.....Or a few record labels.
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Old 12-02-2013, 00:23
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Ooh stick you sjp :P

All those artists were on albums like 'R&B collection 2002' - I remember the ads - anyway, I wasnt insulting anything, just stating a correlation. R&B has moved in definition from 'rhythm and blues' anyway if you want to get technical about things. Don't think I mentioned stabbing someone and getting high in relation to R&B either :P

Pardon me for overreaching on my phrasing on a music forum in reference to the past. I've never heard of the artists you mentioned but were they firing up the mainstream pop charts in the period we're talking about, in the UK anyway?

Music terms are much vaguer nowadays depending on whats in vogue anyway. The Beatles - pop band in their time, now considered a rock band. David Guetta, Calvin Harries, considered pop nowadays, 10 years ago wouldve been considered dance acts or DJs. Taylor Swift, pop singer, has her roots in country. Nicki Minaj, hip-hop or pop? Wouldnt you say Nelly's huge crossover hit Dilemma was R&B? What about R Kelly or Usher?
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:09
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I agree, Fugitive. The charts are shaped by the age of the people buying the music, I would guess mainly young teens.
No attempt seems to be made to 'censor' content in music tracks, or indeed pop videos, and therefore, to me, these buyers see it as an acceptable way to behave in daily life.

Further the movement of tracks that move slowly down the Top 40, and have surely lost their 'novelty', suggest that either the downloading of songs is very small in number, or that because they are so easily lost or disposable, they are cheaply and easily replaced, giving a false showing of each song's worth.

Three songs which I thought would make an impression were the latest offerings from Bowie, Rolling Stones and Bon Jovi - all of which appeared for a couple of weeks at most. I wish there was a way of formulating a run down of songs that older buyers are downloading. Many of them now seem to favour albums or live output instead.

I am not a youngster, but still work as a successful function DJ, where the floor is filled with the 'big' tunes of the 60's to 90's, along with the popular crossover tunes from today.

The majority of chart music is played to a scattering of young 'uns wanting their bit, or tables of bored guests waiting for it to finish !!
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