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Old 11-02-2013, 16:15
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This is on tonight at 9pm on BBC4. I love these historical programmes, they're fascinating, and even better when presented by Janina Ramirez - she really brings the subject to life, imo.
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Old 11-02-2013, 16:29
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Thanks for the heads up - nice timing for the BBC with Richard III poping up in that car park sparking an interest in things medeaval - maybe the lovely Dr. Janina can do a follow up series on the wars of the roses
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Old 11-02-2013, 16:43
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Thanks for the heads up - nice timing for the BBC with Richard III poping up in that car park sparking an interest in things medeaval - maybe the lovely Dr. Janina can do a follow up series on the wars of the roses
That's a good idea. Hopefully someone at the Beeb will have thought of it.
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Old 11-02-2013, 16:43
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It certainly would have sparked interest, had R3 "popped up".

I suppose the HYW is the last time the French won anything in the end.
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Old 11-02-2013, 16:49
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I saw Janina telling us about this on Twitter the other day. Will definitely be tuning in as I enjoy her documentaries.
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Old 11-02-2013, 17:02
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This is on tonight at 9pm on BBC4. I love these historical programmes, they're fascinating, and even better when presented by Janina Ramirez - she really brings the subject to life, imo.
Thanks for that...I will definitely record it.
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Old 11-02-2013, 18:16
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Thanks for that, hadn't realised it was going to be on, looking forward to this.
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Old 11-02-2013, 18:18
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This is on tonight at 9pm on BBC4. I love these historical programmes, they're fascinating, and even better when presented by Janina Ramirez - she really brings the subject to life, imo.
It's repeated on BBC HD on Saturday evening.
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Old 11-02-2013, 18:38
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Looking forward to this

BBC4 really is an oasis in the desert...............
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Old 11-02-2013, 18:52
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Looking forward to this

BBC4 really is an oasis in the desert...............
How true.

The prog is the first of a 3-part series, and is repeated on thursday at 11pm.
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Old 11-02-2013, 19:04
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Looking forward to this

BBC4 really is an oasis in the desert...............
Too true. I notice Channel 4's showing another one of their "Let's laugh at gypsies" programmes again
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Old 11-02-2013, 19:09
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It's repeated on BBC HD on Saturday evening.
That's when I'm going to watch this....a long wait.
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Old 11-02-2013, 19:47
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That's when I'm going to watch this....a long wait.
Difficult choice - the one she did on manuscripts was well worth watching in HD but if this is more monuments and battle fields it may not be. Mind you my telly is fairly small by modern standards so I dont gain much from HD. (At least I think I watched it in HD - so many good documentries on BBC4 )
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Old 11-02-2013, 20:47
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Difficult choice - the one she did on manuscripts was well worth watching in HD but if this is more monuments and battle fields it may not be. Mind you my telly is fairly small by modern standards so I dont gain much from HD. (At least I think I watched it in HD - so many good documentries on BBC4 )
They're better in HD....

I can wait.
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Old 11-02-2013, 22:09
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What a brilliant programme - now that's how to give a history lesson

Great to see the old walled city at Carcassonne. I went there many moons ago - you really get an idea of what life was like in medieval times when you walk along the streets, and look round the old buildings.
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Old 11-02-2013, 22:27
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Great to see the old walled city at Carcassonne. I went there many moons ago - you really get an idea of what life was like in medieval times when you walk along the streets, and look round the old buildings.
packed with tacky souvenir shops, over priced restaurants and hoards of tourists.
(half) joking aside it is a lovely city in beautiful countryside with a fascinating history. An area where we have spent much time over many years.
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Old 12-02-2013, 00:24
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Gramercy (medieval, from "grand merci"), BBC, for bringing back La Ramirez so soon in another feast of visuals and good historical analysis. Now, instead of the deplorable unavailability of "Illuminations" (out of print at the British Library in this, a coronation jubilee year - 2 June 1953) . . . . can we have a DVD of this one, please? She is arguably the best TV historian since Michael Wood. They'd make a great team on some kind of special.
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Old 12-02-2013, 00:36
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Excellent stuff; a king I knew very little about, beautifully conveyed. BBC4 is wonderful.

One small puzzlement - she described herself as a 'cultural historian' tonight. I'm sure when she did the Anglo-Saxon treasures series, she described herself as an art historian.
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Old 12-02-2013, 00:36
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The HYW is one of these subjects we all learn about in school, so this was most interesting in putting everything in context, including the separate national identities.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:19
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I loved her programme about the Icelandic Sagas on BBC4 a year to two ago. I've still got it on my Sky+! I'll have to catch the repeat of this on Thursday, I forgot to record it. Dr Janina is very interesting and enthusiastic about the subjects she's talking about and I seem to take more of it in!
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:17
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A great watch, and must see TV for anyone interested in medieval history. There was also another historical doc on BBC4 an hour later (why couldn't they schedule them together?) about the logistics involved in English/Britsih military campaigns, presented by Nigel Saul which touched on the Hundred Years War.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:26
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It's repeated on BBC HD on Saturday evening.
Thanks for that as I missed it. Plus i notice the film 'The Kite Runner' is on before it from 9.00pm. Will record that too as the book was one that has stayed with me since reading it a few years back.
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Old 12-02-2013, 16:46
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The HYW is one of these subjects we all learn about in school, so this was most interesting in putting everything in context, including the separate national identities.
Not in my state school in the 90s it wasn't! So much of English history tends to be missed from the curriculum - I've had to read up on it myself.
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Old 12-02-2013, 18:28
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packed with tacky souvenir shops, over priced restaurants and hoards of tourists.
(half) joking aside it is a lovely city in beautiful countryside with a fascinating history. An area where we have spent much time over many years.
I didn't mind the tourists, it's a sign of how popular the place is You're lucky to have been there a lot.
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Old 12-02-2013, 18:47
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Not in my state school in the 90s it wasn't! So much of English history tends to be missed from the curriculum - I've had to read up on it myself.
I taught Medieval history to Y7 from the 1980s right through to the mid 21st C. National Curriculum.but the kids always said they looked forward to the Tudors because I promised them sex as well as violence with that lot!

Sure you didn't sleep through those years????.I suppose some of my lot probably did..you can't grab 'em all
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