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Just looked it up. Apparently our jury didn't give anything to Malta, and neither did the televote. That's if I'm reading the chart right on Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...voting_results I think i preferred the old system.. far more streamlined. Who did the Czech Republic piss off to get NIL points from the televote
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^I know that was really harsh.
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Just a little bumpage to help the ol' thread.
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Apparently there's a campaign to 'give Elsa a girlfriend' in Frozen II.
Is it right to campaign that they do it? Surely when the Mouse is ready they will do it anyway? |
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Apparently there's a campaign to 'give Elsa a girlfriend' in Frozen II.
Is it right to campaign that they do it? Surely when the Mouse is ready they will do it anyway? I dunno, I don't think Elsa should get a girlfriend unless it was already planned, I don't want it shoe-horned in, but it's about time Disney stopped sneaking things in, like in Zootoopia, and actually give us an LGBT film.. EDIT: Apologies, didn't realise Idina Menzel had spoken out and reignited the calls. |
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Bit behind the time aren't you dear?
.. EDIT: Apologies, didn't realise Idina Menzel had spoken out and reignited the calls. )However I've now seen there's a campaign to 'give Captain American a boyfriend'. *facepalm* That's not going to happen. Although with a bit of luck, they'll let X-Men's Bobby 'Iceman' Drake be out'n'proud like his comic book version. Quote:
I dunno, I don't think Elsa should get a girlfriend unless it was already planned, I don't want it shoe-horned in, but it's about time Disney stopped sneaking things in, like in Zootoopia, and actually give us an LGBT film..
And I agree, I don't think they should do it just because there's a petition. I doubt they've planned to give Elsa a girlfriend either. Heck, there were no plans for a sequel until a couple years ago. It's not out until late '20 (early '21 here) so I guess there's room for manoeuvre, but I still think its unlikely. I don't think they'll do an LGBT lead just yet, but I think we're probably closer than before to them having a secondary character being gay. It's a tricky thing for them though. They're an LGBT friendly company, who would probably do it, when they can (ie. the right project that allows them to). However, I'm sad to say that they know full well that there will be the usual backlash and criticism if they did. |
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Can't edit my earlier post, but I've spotted this just now.
"Does ‘Finding Dory’ Feature Pixar’s First Lesbian Couple?" - /film http://www.slashfilm.com/lesbian-cou...y/#more-355765 |
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*twirls*
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Pixar releases concept art as a teaser for Cars 3 featuring Lightening McQueen and another similar car.
First comment I read on the article reads "# give Lightening a boyfriend " *sigh* Is this how its going to be now? |
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Can't edit my earlier post, but I've spotted this just now.
"Does ‘Finding Dory’ Feature Pixar’s First Lesbian Couple?" - /film http://www.slashfilm.com/lesbian-cou...y/#more-355765 ..... Just saying. |
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^True.
Actually thinking about it, maybe Pixar is the studio more likely to feature an animated LGBT lead first. |
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Ok, in an effort to keep this thread going - and create a bit of discussion...
Gaydar. Is it an actual 'thing' or just something we use to attribute our opinions and perceptions of people? Do we get a 'ping' just because we make assumptions, or is it more intuitive? (Not saying its a perfect gauge btw, just for the nature of this discussion). (I'm trying to make this a broad discussion, so apologies if the wording is a little random. |
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Ok, in an effort to keep this thread going - and create a bit of discussion...
Gaydar. Is it an actual 'thing' or just something we use to attribute our opinions and perceptions of people? Do we get a 'ping' just because we make assumptions, or is it more intuitive? (Not saying its a perfect gauge btw, just for the nature of this discussion). (I'm trying to make this a broad discussion, so apologies if the wording is a little random.
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I guess like everything, its different for each individual. Some are more in-tune to 'it' - whatever 'it' actually is.
Is it just a matter of picking up on mannerisms/traits or is there more to it than that? |
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I guess like everything, its different for each individual. Some are more in-tune to 'it' - whatever 'it' actually is.
Is it just a matter of picking up on mannerisms/traits or is there more to it than that? For example if you hear a man talking about Kesha and her struggles with that hotshot music producer, then the likliehood is he's probably gay. At least that's what I've found. Styling habits not so much since pretty much every man has the traditionally 'gay look' now. Coiffeured hair, often a slim build, and walk about in the tiniest pair of shorts possible then get offended when someone questions their heterosexuality ![]() I'm less effective with lesbianism, although like I said I seem to be able to notice if a girl is bisexual based on her attitude, like if she's really laidback. (or a goth for some reason) How about you?
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Gaydar is just confirmation bias in action.
Of course mine is obviously 100% accurate. |
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I`m OLD and notice NOTHING..
even when somebody is flirting with me which isn't as rare as I think it is ( according to my friends) I just think they are being friendly and want a chat |
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Well I pick up on things, but I wouldn't say its accurate.
Sometimes it's the subtle mannerisms that I think we 'in the club' are able to pick up on. |
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Well I pick up on things, but I wouldn't say its accurate.
Sometimes it's the subtle mannerisms that I think we 'in the club' are able to pick up on. I bet if we all ventured out to Europe it'd be much more hit and miss, because Europeans are very gay even when they're straight! |
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Like I said it's largely confirmation bias. You're only going to know about the ones you got right. If you're wrong you're probably not going to know.
I bet if we all ventured out to Europe it'd be much more hit and miss, because Europeans are very gay even when they're straight! |
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Been watching an repeat of Will & Grace ("Figmalion Part 3: Bye Bye Beardy").
Hilarious, but boy was it full of intentional stereotypes and nomenclature that's was a little surprising. Makes you realise how far things have changed. It was from '03 and yet some of it seemed like it was from decades before. No doubt if a current sitcom tried that, someone would probably complain. Perhaps we're too over sensitive at times? After all, there's no malice in its intent. It's just there to make us laugh. |
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Been watching an repeat of Will & Grace ("Figmalion Part 3: Bye Bye Beardy").
Hilarious, but boy was it full of intentional stereotypes and nomenclature that's was a little surprising. Makes you realise how far things have changed. It was from '03 and yet some of it seemed like it was from decades before. No doubt if a current sitcom tried that, someone would probably complain. Perhaps we're too over sensitive at times? After all, there's no malice in its intent. It's just there to make us laugh. I can't stand some smug gay men who think they can lecture others on how to behave, like being effeminate to some is just horrible and they take great joy in mocking that or simply dismissig people with feminine qualities as attention seeking posers. The gay community by and large pisses me off and its quite alien to me, |
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Sorry its took a while to reply, (thanks Windows 10!)
Anyway, I suppose there's a fine line between something that is comedic and something that is just a poor stereotype (in a sticom situation). And, after all that defintion/placement of the line is a little differenent for all of us. And in the context of Will & Grace, it is from '03 and as I said in my original question, we have progressed in TV terms, even in that short period of time. But we shouldn't forget that shows like W&G were still paving the way for today's TV. I'm sure that shows on now will recieve the same accolate. |
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A bit oversensitive.yes. I feel like a lot of gay men get upset at, for example,gay celebrities portraying the gay community in a negative light, or in other words, not the way they would like them to.
I can't stand some smug gay men who think they can lecture others on how to behave, like being effeminate to some is just horrible and they take great joy in mocking that or simply dismissig people with feminine qualities as attention seeking posers. The gay community by and large pisses me off and its quite alien to me, None of us likes being stereotyped, but then again, what is a stereotype...? I identify as "Femme", but that doesn't mean I have a wardrobe full of dresses. I certainly don't take issue with "Butchies". An identity only becomes a stereotype if you adapt your life to fit the image rather than being naturally inclined towards certain behaviours. I don't wear dresses (not worn one since I came out) and I don't do makeup. But I wear my hair long and I have distinctly feminine characteristics, which my (also femme) wife likes. On the other hand, I can be pretty assertive when I want to be, I love competitive sport and I do have a lesbian nickname. These characteristics are part of my own identity. I haven't "adopted" any ways in order to tick arbitrary boxes. We (LGBT) are who we are and, being so, can be as diverse in our attitudes, ways and personal tastes as any other social grouping. Hey... I like being a lesbian. I'm happy with it, comfortable in my own skin and (as I have said to straights who have asked the question)..... No, even if it were possible I wouldn't want to become straight. It would be an offer I would be happy.... and very quick..... to turn down The gay community is what it is. The vast majority are truly lovely, wonderful people, Some are perhaps a little less so, some are better avoided and some are downright objectionable. That's the human race for ya..!! I base my opinion of people on what they do and how they behave towards me, not on what they wear, how many tattoos and piercings they have or whether they behave camp or butch. Live and let live. |
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