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Old 05-05-2013, 17:59
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I love the thinner MC! At his age (any age, really) he need to concentrate on being healthier. This could prevent high blood pressure, high cholesterol, etc. Plus a longer life and hopefully more and different parts offered. Always thought it was odd that he commented on LG's weight when he had a problem.
Turning 50 has a way of concentrating the mind on health issues, I think.

He did seem quite fit even carrying the extra weight in earlier series. In particular, I love to watch him run up stairs without holding on to a railing.
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Old 05-05-2013, 18:58
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Not that I am defending BP, but the crowds are a big part of the reason that PI is making it harder and harder to film there. The crew are required by law to keep the roads open and passable or they get fined. If they prevent deliveries, they get fined.

The crowds also hurt the businesses. i know if sounds counter intuitive, but the filming days end up being some of the worse for the local shops. People don't sit in the cafes or browse the shops, they buy cheap take-away and drinks and sit out watching the filming. Some of the shop owners I met close early on filming days as "there's no point in staying open." All 3 runners and the two security men (one is Kenny, one is the runner from S5) are locals. They live in the area and apply to join, so you can understand why they might be less sympathetic.

I know we want to get pictures, but as i mentioned, ITV fines BP every time a revealing pic or a video gets out on the internet. They prevent the filming and photographing action because it costs them money.

I was here for S5 as well. The crowds were much smaller and rarely had cameras out. I was really surprised at the size of the crowds this early in the season.

Sorry to rant a bit, but I feel that the crew needed defending. (I also had several drinks with them in the pub over the last couple weeks, so i'm a bit biased).
I've stumbled upon filming three times. Once, a million years ago when I was about 13 and on vacation in California with my family, we turned a corner and found that the sidewalk and streets were cordoned off with barricades. A scene for "The Mod Squad" was being filmed (what a thrill for a 13-year-old fan!). The public was allowed to be nearby and watch the filming as long as we remained behind the barricade and were quiet. A few people got too loud and were escorted from the area by security. Another time here in my own city I accidentally ran across some filming for the movie "The Firm" in the downtown area. Same thing. Police and/or security had cordoned off the area but we were close enough to get some good glimpses.

My point, I guess, is that it seems that things could be handled in a better way in PI by doing exactly what I saw in L.A. and in Memphis. Cordon off the area, allow the filming to go forward unimpeded by delivery vans, having to keep the street open to traffic, etc. They were able to get it done quickly and were able to install very clear barriers which gave the public the chance to get some views, but which they absolutely could not pass. It sounds like PI has the upper hand in this deal and sets the rules, which I guess is their prerogative, but it may cause filming to take longer and causes frustration for the actors, crew, and the public.

About ITV fining BP for fans' posting of photos on the internet, well, that just sounds crazy. I don't understand how ITV can hold BP responsible for something like that. They would have to put all of PI into some sort of protective bubble to accomplish a no photos AT ALL rule, and somehow I don't think the folks in PI would be too thrilled with that either.
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Old 05-05-2013, 19:04
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This is a very interesting dynamic and I am sympathetic to both sides. This mirrors what it seems that MC has been struggling with: the astounding success of DM and the multimillionaire it has made him and then feeling "trapped" by the role, the show, the expectations. I wonder whether he can still get to the place where he enjoys the character, the show, and the fans - or if this is quite a tremendous ordeal for him?
He's always described it as a pleasant experience, hasn't he? I know he said during the interval he was looking for roles in which he could play a secondary character so that it wasn't all on his shoulders, but I got the impression that it meant he could act but also get a bit of a rest.

You could be right about MC feeling "trapped" by the role, but I just don't see it. I guess the only way we'll find out who is right is to administer a truth serum to him.
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Old 05-05-2013, 19:05
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It sounds to me like it is becoming quite an ordeal. They used to talk about how it was fun to perform in front of a crowd -- like being in live theater. Now it appears to be becoming ever more unwieldy.

I think the whole process of filming on location in PI may need a rethink -- by ITV, BP and everyone involved - if they even think of doing S7.

I'll have to ask my daughter, who specializes in intellectual property, how it is that ITV can fine BP if others release pictures of filming, etc.

Assuming that a fine for premature release of significant parts of the film is a stipulation in the contract between ITV and BP, enforcing It is simply a matter of contract law. It isn't different from a contract provision between an employer and employee to refrain from disclosing a trade secret or a provision that a commercial lessee has the responsibility to make repairs to the premises in case of damages, even if the damages are caused by a third person. Since it would be very difficult to assess what the actual damages to ITV would be for each premature release that might occur, the fines would constitute what the law calls "liquidated damages". These would be permissible in such a situation as long as they were "reasonable" and I imagine ITV (and BP) lawyers were very careful in how the contract was drafted to make sure that the provision met this standard.
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Old 05-05-2013, 19:08
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This could also mean without his fans he could be nothing.
That's true, cookie. Or the fans have made him the success he is today. Something like that.
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Old 05-05-2013, 19:11
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Yes he's too thin for my liking skinny legs big head that's not my MC. Hoping he'll gain a few during filming eating "pasties"
I agree. I like him sort of beefy looking. Not fat, just a big sexy guy!
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Old 05-05-2013, 19:14
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There's a scene somewhere, maybe in next episode? where Louisa is wakened up suddenly and her bed is in some strange location, not a bedroom, which makes me think the cottage has only one bedroom. Does anyone remember that scene?
The only scene like that that I remember is when Holly was sleeping in Louisa's bedroom in S3 and LG woke up in her living room. But she was sleeping on a sofa, not a bed. If you remember the scene you mentioned, please remind me of it. It might drive me crazy trying to remember in the meantime.
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Old 05-05-2013, 19:24
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Assuming that a fine for premature release of significant parts of the film is a stipulation in the contract between ITV and BP, enforcing It is simply a matter of contract law. It isn't different from a contract provision between an employer and employee to refrain from disclosing a trade secret or a provision that a commercial lessee has the responsibility to make repairs to the premises in case of damages, even if the damages are caused by a third person. Since it would be very difficult to assess what the actual damages to ITV would be for each premature release that might occur, the fines would constitute what the law calls "liquidated damages". These would be permissible in such a situation as long as they were "reasonable" and I imagine ITV (and BP) lawyers were very careful in how the contract was drafted to make sure that the provision met this standard.
Very interesting. Thanks, PLM.
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Old 05-05-2013, 19:26
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The only scene like that that I remember is when Holly was sleeping in Louisa's bedroom in S3 and LG woke up in her living room. But she was sleeping on a sofa, not a bed. If you remember the scene you mentioned, please remind me of it. It might drive me crazy trying to remember in the meantime.
You're right -- it was earlier, not later, and in a different house.

So her cottage that she's renting could have more than one bedroom. I hope so. That sofa in the living room is pretty small.
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Old 05-05-2013, 22:21
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I love the thinner MC! At his age (any age, really) he need to concentrate on being healthier. This could prevent high blood pressure, high cholesterol, etc. Plus a longer life and hopefully more and different parts offered. Always thought it was odd that he commented on LG's weight when he had a problem.
I was startled by the weight loss. I saw an instagram picture in February and he looked good but not so thin. Also, when he recieved the award from Princess Anne he looked good but again not so thin. I know it it better to be slimmer for all the reasons listed above but I hope he is okay and not going to get any slimmer.

There was filming once outside my school for "Law and Order" and the street was blocked off but we were able to get to our cars and leave. I remember some of the crew as being very rough. It was all I could do to get past them and walk to the car.
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Old 05-05-2013, 22:38
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Hi! Just doing a quick fly-past to ponder something about the stringent crowd control you've been experiencing. Doc Martin is a TV show and lives or dies by its final product on our TV screens - so I can understand that BP would do everything that they can to protect, and ensure that, their vision makes it to the screen intact.
We fans came to love it for the finished product - the tv show that BP, MC, PB etc have been producing for us all of these years. Don't we have to make sure that our loving attention doesn't get in the way of the making of the actual tv show - the thing we fell in love with in the first place!
I love your thoughts. As much as I would love to be in PI again, and think I would love to see some of the filming, I've decided not to go. The village is so lovely on its own and I had all the time in the world to gaze in wonder at everything around me there in its normal incarnation, and yet also to remember and re-imagine the DM scenes as I went about. I often thought I might hear Doc behind saying "Move it!" And I felt as friendly as Louisa with the locals while there with everyone going about their day.

I also must admit that having lived in SoCal and several times running into actors, I have never been able to push myself forward onto them. Even when I could have held a piece of pie in ransom for an autograph in one instance! I can't explain my feeling exactly, just maybe that I thought they deserved some privacy, or that they were doing their job, and I wasn't willing to intrude upon them in any way. But now as to MC, well, I'd probably just fall over in a dead faint if he even looked at me, so no point in that either!!
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Old 05-05-2013, 22:40
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Okay, okay, I know Justin Timberlake is real and Doc Martin is fiction, but. . .I just read a very sweet comment by JT in one of the rags about his new wife, Jessica Biel. If you recall, their pre-marriage relationship went on for years, on-again, off again, then on-again. Something struck me about certain similarities with our favorite couple and JT's comment: "Every once in a while, I can catch a glimpse of her when she doesn't see me looking. I have this moment where I'm like, 'If you never make a good decision for the rest of your life, you made one really good decision.' " Wouldn't it be great to hear our Doc say that, with or without inducement from a few bottles of wine?
How lovely! Yes, yes, yesssss! And actually I think that sentiment is pretty close to something Martin said about Philippa on more than one occasion.
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Old 05-05-2013, 22:40
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Ah I haven't been on this thread since the last series so how lovely it is to see it still going nearly six years after I started it!

Thanks for all the information about next series...exciting times!

Thought I'd log on in case any of the gang from the early days of the thread are still around as I've just unearthed loads of the Doc Martin fics we wrote pre-series three!! Memories!

Any-hoo....roll on series 6!!
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Old 05-05-2013, 22:56
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Ah I haven't been on this thread since the last series so how lovely it is to see it still going nearly six years after I started it!

Thanks for all the information about next series...exciting times!

Thought I'd log on in case any of the gang from the early days of the thread are still around as I've just unearthed loads of the Doc Martin fics we wrote pre-series three!! Memories!

Any-hoo....roll on series 6!!
And thank you, brendan's girl, for starting this thread. It has given me as so many others, a community to discuss our wonderful show with. I early on, went back and started reading from the beginning, and so thought I was seeing things when I saw your post here.
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Old 05-05-2013, 23:12
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Ah I haven't been on this thread since the last series so how lovely it is to see it still going nearly six years after I started it!

Thanks for all the information about next series...exciting times!

Thought I'd log on in case any of the gang from the early days of the thread are still around as I've just unearthed loads of the Doc Martin fics we wrote pre-series three!! Memories!

Any-hoo....roll on series 6!!
I hope you continue to drop in the forum on a regular basis -- and the same goes for many of the earlier participants, whose contributions are much missed.
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Old 05-05-2013, 23:16
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Thank you to you both I will certainly make more of an effort to come on in the run up to S6 and may even dabble in some fan fic again!
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Old 06-05-2013, 00:16
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Author Anne Rice is apparently a new fan of DM.

https://www.facebook.com/annericefan...ocation=stream

"Well, it's time for me to retire to my easy chair and start watching the second season of "Doc Martin." If you've never sampled this great English series, by all means check it out. Martin Clunes stars and it is hilarious. There are quite a few seasons of this to watch and enjoy. All the action takes place in a little coastal English town and the oddball, cranky, loving and unpredictable inhabitants become your friends and neighbors as you watch".
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Old 06-05-2013, 00:52
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Thank you to you both I will certainly make more of an effort to come on in the run up to S6 and may even dabble in some fan fic again!
Hi BG, nice to see you back again, just had a wee run over your original thread which made me laugh (in a good way!! lol) Didn't realise the connection with SCD until now (maybe that's his next project and why he's looking fit - too much IMO!! I like him 'chunky' but a mans got to work eh!!! ) If you think about how, even, this thread has evolved and changed somewhat over the years and given the problems (growing (international?) popularity??) BP has in production, together with the (I sense??) MCs boredom (maybe not the right word -but I think he maybe growing tired of it!!! and he is actively seeking work in the UK) I think that this series will most definetly be the last?? Think there might be a few spin offs (does that ever really work?) maybe in connection with the books that are due to be published later on in the year?? Maybe money talks!!! and it is a family business!!

So, as a founder member (creator ) of the original site.. What do you think? x
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Old 06-05-2013, 01:31
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Author Anne Rice is apparently a new fan of DM.

https://www.facebook.com/annericefan...ocation=stream

"Well, it's time for me to retire to my easy chair and start watching the second season of "Doc Martin." If you've never sampled this great English series, by all means check it out. Martin Clunes stars and it is hilarious. There are quite a few seasons of this to watch and enjoy. All the action takes place in a little coastal English town and the oddball, cranky, loving and unpredictable inhabitants become your friends and neighbors as you watch".
And in another post from Anne Rice: "Good Morning, People of the Page. Here is an article about my visit with the radio show, Coast to Coast, a few nights back. I so enjoyed this. I hope to be on the show again. Hope this is a good day for you wherever you are in this wide world. Will I write good pages today? Will I end up eating potato chips and watching "Doc Martin?"

Definitely sounds like she's got Doc Martinitis as well, maybe even MCluniticitis. So my guess is that the answer to her last question is "Yes"!
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Old 06-05-2013, 04:47
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And in another post from Anne Rice: "Good Morning, People of the Page. Here is an article about my visit with the radio show, Coast to Coast, a few nights back. I so enjoyed this. I hope to be on the show again. Hope this is a good day for you wherever you are in this wide world. Will I write good pages today? Will I end up eating potato chips and watching "Doc Martin?"

Definitely sounds like she's got Doc Martinitis as well, maybe even MCluniticitis. So my guess is that the answer to her last question is "Yes"!
Someone should invite Anne to join the forum.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:29
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Someone should invite Anne to join the forum.
Done!
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Old 06-05-2013, 13:56
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Thank you to you both I will certainly make more of an effort to come on in the run up to S6 and may even dabble in some fan fic again!
Someone posted on the forum a couple of months ago that this was one of the busiest forums on DS --in the top 20 for sure. And that was before the recent spate of activity.
So you should be proud of your creation.
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Old 06-05-2013, 14:27
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Brendan's Girl Good to see you back. This forum and fan fic have been taken over by the Americans and it is good to have a British perspective on an English show. Please write some more FF
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Old 06-05-2013, 14:48
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Brendan's Girl Good to see you back. This forum and fan fic have been taken over by the Americans and it is good to have a British perspective on an English show. Please write some more FF
I don't think we Americans would say that we "took it over." Rather, we have very often regretted the dwindling numbers of the British contributors, and worried over what has caused that. We would dearly love to hear British viewpoints, and to have more contributors -- and the original ones back too.
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Old 06-05-2013, 14:53
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I don't think we Americans would say that we "took it over." Rather, we have very often regretted the dwindling numbers of the British contributors, and worried over what has caused that. We would dearly love to hear British viewpoints, and to have more contributors -- and the original ones back too.
As a UK resident I enjoy hearing the different viewpoints on the forum from all over the world

I feel I have made many new friends

We have one great thing in common

Incurable Doc Martinitis
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