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Old 09-01-2015, 16:18
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I just read the spoilers for the next couple of weeks of Impact. Combined with the first show, it doesn't seem much good.
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Old 09-01-2015, 16:47
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Jarrett has said his plan is to run weekly television, live events and PPV with a GFW roster whilst at the same time cross promoting with the many promotions he's signed deals with to bring their shows to a US market
Interesting. I wonder how he's going to put that roster together. I guess he'd have to 'sign' talent from the promotions he's working with and still allow them to compete there as well?
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Old 09-01-2015, 19:21
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Audience was 263.000 for the debut episode, 93.000 for the immediate replay after the "live" broadcast.
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Old 09-01-2015, 20:24
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105.000 the replay, slight correction.
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Old 09-01-2015, 21:18
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Interesting. I wonder how he's going to put that roster together. I guess he'd have to 'sign' talent from the promotions he's working with and still allow them to compete there as well?
Who knows lol. Hopefully we will find out sooner rather than later.
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Old 09-01-2015, 21:20
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Audience was 263.000 for the debut episode, 93.000 for the immediate replay after the "live" broadcast.
I don't know how to respond to that. The big issue as I see it is the move to Friday which in America is a terrible night for TV ratings. Hopefully they retain all of those viewers going forward but it's sad to see just how many viewers they've had to drop to keep money coming in.
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Old 09-01-2015, 21:53
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I think it was Destination America that said their highest rated show ever was 400,000 viewers. Maybe TNA could beat that and they certainly are all over the channel, I'm sure all the repeats will add up and bring in extra revenue.
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Old 09-01-2015, 22:03
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I don't know how to respond to that. The big issue as I see it is the move to Friday which in America is a terrible night for TV ratings. Hopefully they retain all of those viewers going forward but it's sad to see just how many viewers they've had to drop to keep money coming in.
So $2 per viewer for Del Rio?
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Old 09-01-2015, 22:13
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Think of all the money Destination America make from sponsors with all those repeats of the shows. TNA will be compensated for going there and hopefully bring new viewers to that channel.
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Old 09-01-2015, 22:22
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Isn't it quite a niche channel though? It might be difficult to attract people if it involves upping their cable/satellite bills to pick it up. From looking around Twitter, Bryan Alvarez said that it would cost him an extra $22 per month to upgrade his cable subscription to include Destination America. I doubt many people will be doing that just for TNA.
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Old 09-01-2015, 22:26
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Isn't it quite a niche channel though? It might be difficult to attract people if it involves upping their cable/satellite bills to pick it up. From looking around Twitter, Bryan Alvarez said that it would cost him an extra $22 per month to upgrade his cable subscription to include Destination America. I doubt many people will be doing that just for TNA.
Especially when they can get it "free" a few hours later.

It's pretaped to maybe if it were live every week a few may but that would cost to much.
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Old 09-01-2015, 22:35
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So $2 per viewer for Del Rio?
TNA are in some respects just like WWE! .... They have literally 3 wrestlers that are worth watching the rest are shite!
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Old 09-01-2015, 22:39
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I think it was Destination America that said their highest rated show ever was 400,000 viewers. Maybe TNA could beat that and they certainly are all over the channel, I'm sure all the repeats will add up and bring in extra revenue.
The fact they tried to hide the audience (by switching off the lights) was quite embarrassing! ... I said they'd get around 150k viewers and I wasn't far wrong! ... They went into obscurity the second they left spike!
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Old 09-01-2015, 23:45
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TNA are in some respects just like WWE! .... They have literally 3 wrestlers that are worth watching the rest are shite!
So that would mean there are a grand total of 6 good wrestlers on TV?
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Old 10-01-2015, 00:12
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They should really have sold it to Jarrett when they had the chance at least they may have stayed on Spike.

Even with this new deal I can see them closing down by this time next year if ratings don't improve and I doubt they will
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Old 10-01-2015, 00:28
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They should really have sold it to Jarrett when they had the chance at least they may have stayed on Spike.

Even with this new deal I can see them closing down by this time next year if ratings don't improve and I doubt they will
I said similar awhile back (& was laughted @ by the wrestling armchair Internet experts!) like yourself I reckon they'll be dead in 12 month which is a pretty sad state of affairs!
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Old 10-01-2015, 00:33
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Impact looked like the living dead the other night anyway.
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Old 10-01-2015, 00:39
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So that would mean there are a grand total of 6 good wrestlers on TV?
IMO!

Randy Orton, John Cena & Danial Bryan in WWE
Bobby Roode, Bobby Lashley & Austin Aries in TNA

The rest don't really matter & are there purely to fill airtime!
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Old 10-01-2015, 00:50
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Isn't it quite a niche channel though? It might be difficult to attract people if it involves upping their cable/satellite bills to pick it up. From looking around Twitter, Bryan Alvarez said that it would cost him an extra $22 per month to upgrade his cable subscription to include Destination America. I doubt many people will be doing that just for TNA.
Well they are available in 41 million less homes now and it seems there are people that either can't get it or aren't willing to pay to see it. You're talking a 700,000 drop between the end of Spike and the start on DA (including both first run and second run viewers).

I hope they've been given more than Spike were paying for such a drop in viewership. But overall, not a bad rating for DA by all accounts.
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Old 10-01-2015, 00:52
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They should really have sold it to Jarrett when they had the chance at least they may have stayed on Spike.

Even with this new deal I can see them closing down by this time next year if ratings don't improve and I doubt they will
It's now a matter of can the ratings improve rather than will they. There are no plans to run live shows, at least one PPV has been removed from the schedule for 2015.

And to think, there are people that think in this situation Del Rio is still worth a $500k contract.
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:01
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This is where the IWC sort of fail. They have been saying for years TNA will go out of business and they can't do this and they can't do that. That building on Wednesday was reported to be 75% full, don't you think they could have.......if they wanted to, moved people opposite the hard camera and lit them up? Do you really think the people at home would have noticed empty seats behind the hard camera? Do you think TNA has no money? Do you know how much $500,000 is? I don't think fans think these things through, if you can give someone that kind of money then you must have it to give. It's not cheap to run a wrestling a company but fans always seem to think they have no money and they can't afford to this and they can't do that and yet they keep plodding on, a private company that has never and will never and is under no obligation to ever reveal any financial details.


It's this constant comparisons to prior wrestling companies because those companies got financial stuff released and certainly modern day WWE is that way but WWE isn't doing that great either. Their PPVs, considering what fans pay for them on the Network might aswell just be glorified TV tapings, fans paying 9.99? Yeah i don't think they're getting big PPV bonuses anymore.
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:02
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It's now a matter of can the ratings improve rather than will they. There are no plans to run live shows, at least one PPV has been removed from the schedule for 2015.

And to think, there are people that think in this situation Del Rio is still worth a $500k contract.
They need big names (to attract more viewers) who'll want big money ... The current roster isn't good enough! ... without afew Del Rios there 100% dead! ... Nobody is gonna tune in to watch johny nobody from the Indy circuit who's getting paid peanuts!
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:08
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Well they are available in 41 million less homes now and it seems there are people that either can't get it or aren't willing to pay to see it. You're talking a 700,000 drop between the end of Spike and the start on DA (including both first run and second run viewers).

I hope they've been given more than Spike were paying for such a drop in viewership. But overall, not a bad rating for DA by all accounts.
The homes DA is counted as being available in includes millions like Bryan Alvarez who could get the channel but would have to upgrade their cable package to do so.
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:16
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And you can't really take the fans sides of not upgrading their packages to watch TNA because British fans pay £20+ a month to watch WWE on Sky sports lol.
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:16
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They need big names (to attract more viewers) who'll want big money ... The current roster isn't good enough! ... without afew Del Rios there 100% dead! ... Nobody is gonna tune in to watch johny nobody from the Indy circuit who's getting paid peanuts!
It's funny that because the biggest name in the industry has ever produced did jack all for ratings, the man that steered WCW to its rise did jack all for ratings. Legends like Angle, Flair Nash, Hall and Sting did jack all for ratings. Big names coming out of WWE like Bubba Ray and Devon, Christian, Rikishi, Ken Kennedy, Bobby Lashley, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Booker T and Scott Steiner all did jack all for ratings. Divas like Victoria and Gail Kim did jack all for ratings.
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