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Old 10-01-2015, 01:22
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Which goes to prove people don't watch wrestling for the stars. Stars don't draw money. WRESTLING does not draw money, it's the show overall people like. They don't care who it is, as long as they can believe in them, they can believe in the matches and the story they are happy. All this talk of big stars and this persons gonna make difference is so old skool. It's like people rightly say of the WWE, the WWE is the star, not the wrestlers. People want the show and it's the same with TNA but when people watch it they just see the same stuff as before. There's nothing new happening and it's the same with WWE but the only reason the WWE has more viewers watching is they have been going for decades. Wrestling fans want something new and it's hard to do.
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:37
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Which goes to prove people don't watch wrestling for the stars. Stars don't draw money. WRESTLING does not draw money, it's the show overall people like. They don't care who it is, as long as they can believe in them, they can believe in the matches and the story they are happy. All this talk of big stars and this persons gonna make difference is so old skool. It's like people rightly say of the WWE, the WWE is the star, not the wrestlers. People want the show and it's the same with TNA but when people watch it they just see the same stuff as before. There's nothing new happening and it's the same with WWE but the only reason the WWE has more viewers watching is they have been going for decades. Wrestling fans want something new and it's hard to do.
This is just so untrue that I don't even know where to start.
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:39
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And you can't really take the fans sides of not upgrading their packages to watch TNA because British fans pay £20+ a month to watch WWE on Sky sports lol.
Yep, WWE is the ONLY thing that I have Sky Sports for. Not football or tennis or any other sport. Just WWE.
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:40
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Which goes to prove people don't watch wrestling for the stars. Stars don't draw money. WRESTLING does not draw money, it's the show overall people like. They don't care who it is, as long as they can believe in them, they can believe in the matches and the story they are happy. All this talk of big stars and this persons gonna make difference is so old skool. It's like people rightly say of the WWE, the WWE is the star, not the wrestlers. People want the show and it's the same with TNA but when people watch it they just see the same stuff as before. There's nothing new happening and it's the same with WWE but the only reason the WWE has more viewers watching is they have been going for decades. Wrestling fans want something new and it's hard to do.
Wrestling is past its best ... I don't think it matters whether folk tune in for Randy Orton or some storyline lifted straight outta desperate housewives .... I personally tune in for the wrestlers but that's just me!
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Old 10-01-2015, 10:26
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It's funny that because the biggest name in the industry has ever produced did jack all for ratings, the man that steered WCW to its rise did jack all for ratings. Legends like Angle, Flair Nash, Hall and Sting did jack all for ratings. Big names coming out of WWE like Bubba Ray and Devon, Christian, Rikishi, Ken Kennedy, Bobby Lashley, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Booker T and Scott Steiner all did jack all for ratings. Divas like Victoria and Gail Kim did jack all for ratings.
Flair is a proven ratings draw. Even in his later years, his segments on WWE were almost always the highest rated of the show. Not in TNA of course, where nothing and nobody seems special.
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Old 10-01-2015, 16:09
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Now, does this mean Jeff Hardy is now allowed to travel to the UK and if so will it be a surprise appearance? Of course it may not however it would be awesome if Jeff appearing was a surprise.

A message from Matt Hardy on Twitter:

"@MATTHARDYBRAND: I'm happy to announce that I'll be on the @IMPACTWRESTLING UK tour. Can't wait to perform for the amazing ‪#‎ImpactUK‬ fans at the end of Jan!"
https://www.facebook.com/tnawrestlin...22206184488471
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Old 10-01-2015, 17:23
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Well from reading the tweet, it appears that Matt will be there. Haven't a clue about Jeff as it doesn't mention him
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Old 10-01-2015, 17:24
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Flair is a proven ratings draw. Even in his later years, his segments on WWE were almost always the highest rated of the show. Not in TNA of course, where nothing and nobody seems special.
Flair probably is a ratings draw but like you said, he wasn't in TNA as ratings did jack all during his time there.
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Old 10-01-2015, 17:46
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Injury spoiler from Friday night with video included:

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Old 10-01-2015, 20:07
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Injury spoiler from Friday night with video included:

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Old 10-01-2015, 21:03
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Just watched, shame its like Norman Collier throughout

That Josh Matthews seems ok on the commentary, and could see that was going to happen at the end, saw it coming a mile off, soon as he entered with the chair.
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Old 11-01-2015, 07:56
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Just watched, shame its like Norman Collier throughout

That Josh Matthews seems ok on the commentary, and could see that was going to happen at the end, saw it coming a mile off, soon as he entered with the chair.
Is that a reference to the microphone / sound constantly cutting out? ... I might watch it again tonight on challenge (purely to refresh my memory)

It's amazing to think the UK is now TNAs biggest audience! (TV ratings wise)
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Old 11-01-2015, 13:32
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The ratings have been adjusted to 359,000 for the first run episode.

We aren't TNA's biggest ratings market. Here's the official ratings for December

07/12 less than 103,000
14/12 less than 118,000
21/12 less than 118,000
28/12 less than 126,000
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Old 11-01-2015, 13:40
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The ratings have been adjusted to 359,000 for the first run episode.

For the W/E 28th December, IMPACT got less than 126,000 viewers so the US is still their biggest ratings market.
On another site I go on it said that is a 0.31 that is low even for TNA
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Old 11-01-2015, 13:47
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On another site I go on it said that is a 0.31 that is low even for TNA
The problem is 350,000 won't make the Top 100 cable shows of the night. But they are on a lesser network so understandable.
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Old 11-01-2015, 13:52
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The problem is 350,000 won't make the Top 100 cable shows of the night. But they are on a lesser network so understandable.
I agree but now the ratings will be even worse they couldn't afford to pay the wrestlers before and were losing money now they are getting even less than half of that.


On the point that some will have to upgrade their package and pay more to watch it now most people won't.

It may get ok ratings in the UK because it's on a free channel but move it and we wouldn't pay either.

I'd would and do happily pay for WWE and despite a few problems it's worth it I wouldn't pay £1 a month to watch TNA
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Old 11-01-2015, 13:59
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Is that a reference to the microphone / sound constantly cutting out? ... I might watch it again tonight on challenge (purely to refresh my memory)

It's amazing to think the UK is now TNAs biggest audience! (TV ratings wise)
Yup, was so annoying, didn't really mind it during the matches, but when they are doing it when the wrestlers are on the mic, you just don't know what they are saying.
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Old 11-01-2015, 14:01
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Yup, was so annoying, didn't really mind it during the matches, but when they are doing it when the wrestlers are on the mic, you just don't know what they are saying.
I thought I had a dodgy copy!
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Old 11-01-2015, 14:03
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I thought I had a dodgy copy!
Same here at first, was terrible when EC3 was out, i don't have a clue what he said, if its going to be like that all the time, its gona ruin it.
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Old 11-01-2015, 14:10
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Same here at first, was terrible when EC3 was out, i don't have a clue what he said, if its going to be like that all the time, its gona ruin it.
MVP was constantly cutting out aswell when he was arguing with kurt angle!
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Old 11-01-2015, 14:19
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Why am i not surprised the ratings are still being picked over ?

As long as they're the highest rated program on Destination America, that's all that really matters.
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Old 11-01-2015, 14:23
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Why am i not surprised the ratings are still being picked over ?

As long as they're the highest rated program on Destination America, that's all that really matters.
People naturally assume low ratings + low income = shite product & 99% of the time there usually right aren't they?
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Old 11-01-2015, 14:23
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Why am i not surprised the ratings are still being picked over ?

As long as they're the highest rated program on Destination America, that's all that really matters.
They aren't being picked over at all, they are being discussed because 650,000+ have decided TNA aren't worth paying for. Why shouldn't their ratings be discussed?
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Old 11-01-2015, 14:26
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They aren't being picked over at all, they are being discussed because 650,000+ have decided TNA aren't worth paying for. Why shouldn't their ratings be discussed?
Didn't someone mention it would cost them $22 to upgrade their package? Insane money that! especially for summit like TNA!
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Old 11-01-2015, 14:41
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They aren't being picked over at all, they are being discussed because 650,000+ have decided TNA aren't worth paying for. Why shouldn't their ratings be discussed?
You have to look at that figure and find out how many people can't actually get Destination America regardless of whether or not they might want to or not, so i don't think it's as cut and dried as people deciding the product "isn't worth paying for".

And when you're on a niche channel like that, the ratings are only really relevant to your direct competition, so as i said, as long as they're the top rated show on that channel then that's all that should matter.

I know they may still think they're competition to the WWE but they aren't and certainly won't ever be on their current channel so, in my very humble opinion, all the never-ending nonsense about ratings does is to re-enforce the negative opinion that the so-called "IWC" has of TNA and probably paints a misleading impression to the casual fan as well.
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