That's reality, show them asking for certain matches or arguing why they are in certain matches. That way there is no GM authority figure, the audience sees how matches are made week in and week out.
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Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“That's reality, show them asking for certain matches or arguing why they are in certain matches. That way there is no GM authority figure, the audience sees how matches are made week in and week out.”
“That's reality, show them asking for certain matches or arguing why they are in certain matches. That way there is no GM authority figure, the audience sees how matches are made week in and week out.”
Why can't they just announce matches ahead of time?
They shouldn't even mention "creative" because if I'm meant to believe that this is real, why would there be such a thing as creative or writers? If they just turn everything into worked shoot BS, then it'll quickly become unwatchable.
Because no wrestling companies are actually putting out a decent product just now. The idea is to try something new rather than something similar to everyone else. Reality route is one of the few things not tried by wrestling companies.
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“Because no wrestling companies are actually putting out a decent product just now. The idea is to try something new rather than something similar to everyone else. Reality route is one of the few things not tried by wrestling companies.”
“Because no wrestling companies are actually putting out a decent product just now. The idea is to try something new rather than something similar to everyone else. Reality route is one of the few things not tried by wrestling companies.”
WCW 2000 isn't new.
The way to make it work is to go simple and make things seem important. Make it about the wrestlers rather than who is in charge or who is in cahoots with who, which is what involving creative as characters would turn in to. I would prefer the "reality" stuff to be used to show wrestlers in training building to a big match, or going to events and appearances etc. to show off their personality a bit. Other than that, I'm not sure how reality TV translates effectively and from the interviews I've seen, neither does Dixie Carter.
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Once again Jeff Hardy has been refused entry to the UK.
Makes you proud to be British.
”
“Once again Jeff Hardy has been refused entry to the UK.
Makes you proud to be British.
”
How come MVP wasn't barred from the UK last year considering he spent 9 years in prison for armed robbery and kidnapping?
If he's allowed entry, them why is Jeff Hardy barred?
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“People don't want that anymore. They've seen it all before.”
“People don't want that anymore. They've seen it all before.”
You know this how?
I guess TNA have never gone down the worked shoot route before though!
Destination America has a lot of reality content on it and they want a wider demographic than Spike did, Spike only wanted males 18+. Destination America want females and young people watching. Reality is the way to do that.
It might be worth looking at the various types of wrestling that are being put out there currently.
New Japan, Lucha Underground and ROH seem to have good products at the minute. Maybe TNA and WWE for that matter can maybe take some of the elements from those companies?
New Japan, Lucha Underground and ROH seem to have good products at the minute. Maybe TNA and WWE for that matter can maybe take some of the elements from those companies?
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“tna has gone backwards.
such a shame,wwe needs competiton.”
“tna has gone backwards.
such a shame,wwe needs competiton.”
Well, it won't happen anytime soon.
And TNA hasn't gone "backwards", it's exactly the same as before. Nothing has changed.
You want logical booking and GREAT wrestling? http://njpwworld.com , 5.55 pounds per month. Live shows, on demand library (with stuff dating back to 1973) and just awesome stuff. Just the fact that you could watch live the Tokyo Dome show and, if you're lucky, you're gonna watch the ENTIRE G1 Climax with not even 6 pounds...huge steal.
Originally Posted by JackFoley:
“Well, it won't happen anytime soon.
And TNA hasn't gone "backwards", it's exactly the same as before. Nothing has changed.
You want logical booking and GREAT wrestling? http://njpwworld.com , 5.55 pounds per month. Live shows, on demand library (with stuff dating back to 1973) and just awesome stuff. Just the fact that you could watch live the Tokyo Dome show and, if you're lucky, you're gonna watch the ENTIRE G1 Climax with not even 6 pounds...huge steal.”
“Well, it won't happen anytime soon.
And TNA hasn't gone "backwards", it's exactly the same as before. Nothing has changed.
You want logical booking and GREAT wrestling? http://njpwworld.com , 5.55 pounds per month. Live shows, on demand library (with stuff dating back to 1973) and just awesome stuff. Just the fact that you could watch live the Tokyo Dome show and, if you're lucky, you're gonna watch the ENTIRE G1 Climax with not even 6 pounds...huge steal.”
no i want creative booking and short matches. no one caters for me at the mo
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Other than that, I'm not sure how reality TV translates effectively and from the interviews I've seen, neither does Dixie Carter.”
“Other than that, I'm not sure how reality TV translates effectively and from the interviews I've seen, neither does Dixie Carter.”
I would suggest the bigger question is why is anyone trying to translate reality television to wrestling now? They're about 10 years too late on this. This style of reality television is an overexposed and dying medium.
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“I would suggest the bigger question is why is anyone trying to translate reality television to wrestling now? They're about 10 years too late on this. This style of reality television is an overexposed and dying medium.”
“I would suggest the bigger question is why is anyone trying to translate reality television to wrestling now? They're about 10 years too late on this. This style of reality television is an overexposed and dying medium.”
Well yes, but it's still more current than anything Dixie Cartner has tried before (hiring Hogan, Flair, Bischoff etc. and doing a million NWO reruns.)
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“hey at least tna do faction wars
seems wwe hate them now, big ones anyway.”
“hey at least tna do faction wars
seems wwe hate them now, big ones anyway.”
TNA only do faction wars. They literally have no other form or storytelling.
WWE did two mini faction wars last year with Shield vs Wyatts and Shield vs Evolution. Both were amazing and that's enough for me.
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“TNA only do faction wars. They literally have no other form or storytelling.
WWE did two mini faction wars last year with Shield vs Wyatts and Shield vs Evolution. Both were amazing and that's enough for me.”
“TNA only do faction wars. They literally have no other form or storytelling.
WWE did two mini faction wars last year with Shield vs Wyatts and Shield vs Evolution. Both were amazing and that's enough for me.”
as i said before big faction wars
nwo,corporation,ministry,hart foundation,dx etc
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“as i said before big faction wars
nwo,corporation,ministry,hart foundation,dx etc”
“as i said before big faction wars
nwo,corporation,ministry,hart foundation,dx etc”
But that is out of date now and as said that's all TNA ever do it's the one and only storyline they ever have.
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“But that is out of date now and as said that's all TNA ever do it's the one and only storyline they ever have.”
“But that is out of date now and as said that's all TNA ever do it's the one and only storyline they ever have.”
thats out of date but basic 80s booking is still required?
and i havnt stood up for TNA as far as i am aware, just said faction overload is the same as 0 faction stuff in wwe.
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“thats out of date but basic 80s booking is still required?
and i havnt stood up for TNA as far as i am aware, just said faction overload is the same as 0 faction stuff in wwe.”
“thats out of date but basic 80s booking is still required?
and i havnt stood up for TNA as far as i am aware, just said faction overload is the same as 0 faction stuff in wwe.”
How can an overload of something be the same as a total lack of it? It's just the only trope TNA seem to be able to use. That and heel authorities, which is also a WWE favourite.
I would love a moratorium on both for 3 years so both companies had to break out of their rut and try something different.
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“How can an overload of something be the same as a total lack of it? It's just the only trope TNA seem to be able to use. That and heel authorities, which is also a WWE favourite.
I would love a moratorium on both for 3 years so both companies had to break out of their rut and try something different.”
“How can an overload of something be the same as a total lack of it? It's just the only trope TNA seem to be able to use. That and heel authorities, which is also a WWE favourite.
I would love a moratorium on both for 3 years so both companies had to break out of their rut and try something different.”
i am saying its the same extreme scale, albeit in a different direction.
stop spoiling for an argument fmkk
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“i am saying its the same extreme scale, albeit in a different direction.
stop spoiling for an argument fmkk”
“i am saying its the same extreme scale, albeit in a different direction.
stop spoiling for an argument fmkk”
That's unfair. I'm really not. I'm even being nice on the WWE thread!
Also, TNA supposedly tried to sign WWE Hall of Famer Edge.
In other news. Lionel Messi will NOT be signing for Leeds United this summer.
In other news. Lionel Messi will NOT be signing for Leeds United this summer.
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“That's unfair. I'm really not. I'm even being nice on the WWE thread!”
“That's unfair. I'm really not. I'm even being nice on the WWE thread!”
you did that after! now i feel bad.
you did a russo swerve on me
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“you did that after! now i feel bad.
you did a russo swerve on me”
“you did that after! now i feel bad.
you did a russo swerve on me
”
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