Is there any particular reason for that other than just denial at this point?

It just means they will be of Destination America and can begin looking for a new television deal.

I just feel sorry for the workers to be honest. You have all this uncertainty about the TV deal being thrown around the Internet again for the second time in 12 months whilst Dixie is saying publicly not to worry about the ratings and allegedly holding talent meetings telling them DA are fine with the ratings.

Considering the issues that many of the workers were having with actually being paid on time, I get the feeling that at least some of them would be better off just being shot of the company altogether.

If they confirm it then fair enough, but i'll wait for that rather than take anything Meltzer says as gospel.

They've apparently re-jigged their taping schedules so that they tape six weeks' worth of Impact before Slammiversary on the 28th, so they'll be taping the post-Slammiversary shows before the event itself which is quite strange.

I suppose if you want to read between the lines, it either suggests that they don't plan on any title changes at the event, or that they have indeed been cancelled and they're just taping six weeks of filler material up to the end of their run.


I've never liked the guy in the thirty odd years i've been a wrestling fan. To be honest, I can't remember why

Bob Ryder has tweeted "For almost 13 years some people have predicted we were about to go out of business. It's no more true today than it was then. #StandUp" apparently in reference to the cancellation rumours. Of course he doesn't actually deny they've been cancelled.

It's also worth remembering when TMZ revealed they had been dropped from Spike in July 2014, Carter and Ryder both denied the reports. Four months later, TNA aired their final original episode on Spike.

Four months from now is September. When the reports say IMPACT will be dropped.

For what it's worth Meltzer said he thought they were about to go out of business twice, immediately before they got the Spike deal and just before it was sold to Panda (and Jerry Jarrett confirmed they were done without a buyer on the second occasion)


They could probably carry on in some form unless Panda pulls the plug, and we won't know about that till the day it happens.

I think TNA will bounce back but it's things like this that make think Jeff Jarrett will not get any deal for GFW. Wrestling just hasn't been popular since 2003 and even then that was because Rock and Austin were finally on their way out and there was a bit of renewed interest in it. For over 10 years it's been the same thing over and over and TNA should have been trying to do things differently and whenever they did it lasted a few weeks and then they gave up and went back to their same old routine.



Obviously i'm a bit jaded with wrestling and I like Lucha Underground but that's not all year round either. It's the workers I feel sorry for. And another part of me just doesn't care because it's 2015 and we're nearly into June, nearly half way through the year and there's no bright light, there's no hope. WWE is just a mess. A childish, cartoonish mess. TNA should have been taking chances and trying something different to get new fans into wrestling and to make big changes in the perception of pro wrestling.

Of course the WWE marks will come out and laugh and cheer because WWE is still there but it just makes it crystal clear to me just how far wrestling has fallen since 2003. Just how far it's fallen and keeps falling from something adults could enjoy and get involved in to kids and young women going to see it just to sit and oggle the men. Just a shame. Wrestling used to have some pride. There used to be an enjoyment. Something you could bond with people over.

That doesn't really count against the veracity or otherwise of his reporting.

There is this odd tendency in some quarters however to insist that everything is fine after any setback that TNA faces and then shifting the blame onto whoever is talking about the issues for their actual occourance in the first place.

Yeah, tnamecca is quite the fan site.

I'm surprised TNA haven't strongly denied this yet, because if the perception is Impact is a lame duck that ends on the last week of September, that will kill their ratings.

And that is the problem and why people will believe it. Carter, Ryder and Destination America can kill this rumour dead in seconds but instead of doing the right thing, Ryder posts a tweet that he hopes makes people believe he is denying it. All it takes is "TNA Impact Wrestling hasn't been cancelled and will remain on air past September".

TNA's statement:

"It has come to our attention that several internet news sources have falsely attributed statements to TNA, its executives and broadcasting partner. These false statements constitute defamation and if necessary we will seek all legal remedies available to us."

That can still mean anything of course it's not a denial of DA getting rid of them.

My first thought. It's another statement that means nothing that is trying to look like something.

I agree they have likely found one post on some little fourm what nobody reads and are using that to make it look like the DA news if it were that why not just say TNA will be on DA for at least the next X anmount of years.

Then again they said they were not losing the Spike deal even after Spike themselves admitted it.

Oh dear. I'd imagine that's it then.

It really shows how commercial TV works: The importance of advertising revenue. TNA was DA's best rated show, and still they cancel it. It must be *damn* hard to sell ad space on wrestling shows.

Where does this leave US pro wrestling now? Bad times.

The question is where they go from here. They do have international deals which must have some value to them. Is moving online in the US an option? Is finding another smaller network an option? Or do they, very sadly, just stop clinging on for dear life?

I know you will likely disagree, this statement followed by Dixie's about +3/7 day ratings just screams of burying heads in sands again.

Is there a smaller Network?

From what we know this deal was with a network what is in less than half the homes Spike was in and it was for a quater of the money Spike gave them and that was the best deal they could get.

Hell BB going from C4 to C5 was a great move compaired to that.

I don't know, I'm just trying to find some form of solution. Local TV?

I think the sad truth is that a non-WWE nationally televised US fed isn't viable anymore.

I don't think Carter's statement is burying anything. It's her job to try and put a positive spin on things, even very bad news. Absolutely any company head would do the same.

I think there has to be a clear message sent here and if it isn't sent, the speculation will grow. What's the point in lying?

The question is: "Are TNA getting dropped by Destination America". The answers we've received from Bob Ryder is 'we're not going out of business' (which is a great message to send, and I'm glad they are able to say that, completely irrelevant to the question) and from TNA is 'speculation about statements made is libellous'. Two statements given, both with very little relevance to the actual speculation.

That's spin, and from a business perspective it's the only viable thing to do. Almost certainly the truth is that they are getting dropped from DA and they may well go out of business. But they can hardly come out and say that. The best chance of survival for the company is to give the most positive sounding answer they can, and they're doing that.

I disagree. For the second time in less than 12 months, they are in this position. Last year, they explicitly stated it wasn't happening. They looked like they buried their heads in the sand then. This year, they are refusing to even make a statement. They look like they are burying their heads deeper.

Surely it makes little sense to NOT make a statement because in a case like this when nobody is making a statement, it's making the statement for them and I don't think that's any way to treat the people that work for them who are going to be subject to this kind of speculation until they explicitly state one way or another.

That's the only reason for my opinion that it looks like head burying. However many people over the country have a good idea what's going to happen come September so just be honest an try your best to salvage whatever deal you can get

WWE since 2003 has done nothing but lose fans and viewers and as the years have went past and more and more wrestlers have retired, they have failed to create household names. The only one they created was John Cena. 12 years of a dwindling fanbase, 12 years of the same old boring garbage, 12 years of insulting the intelligence of their viewers has drove many of them to the UFC and many to other TV programs in general.

Within those same 12 years TNA has been an indie promotion that had very good wrestling and storytelling to WWE-lite to a consistent wrestling show that was enjoyable to watch to a 1990s reimagining with Hogan and Bischoff back to a wrestling show with nothing but wrestling wrestling wrestling coming out their ears.

What they should have done in those 12 years is stuck to being a good wrestling show with storylines that were easy to follow, that relied on home grown talen and tried to build that home grown talent into household names like AJ Styles and Samoa Joe, like James Storm and Christopher Daniels. They then should have evolved with the times and produced wrestling the way people want to see it. WWE has went backwards and keeps going backwards, soon WWE will have 1980s wrestling on their show. TNA did not evolve so fans were never given a reason to watch them, just like most have ditched WWE and any former fan of WWE will no doubt laugh or have a sore jaw from it hitting the ground when they see the 50 year old Undertaker still going and 46 year old Triple H still on TV........and with the same beard he had in his peak in 2001 lol.


Just nothing at all going on in wrestling and the money men in US TV know that. USA Networks got nothing going on. I'd rather watch their re runs of NCIS but even they took Smackdown off Syfy because I'm sure the people at SyFy didn't want any wrestling on their channel so they let USA have it. Lucha is doing a good job but that will always be a small gig and it should be that way because if anyone with money got a hold of it they would just ruin it anyway.

Sad sad times for wrestling but this is 2015. I don't think any of them know how to present wrestling in 2015. The only thing that is going to happen is kids will grow out of WWE but then they will be replaced by younger kids discovering it for the first time and a tiny tiny TINY percentage of the overall fanbase will fork out the $10 for the Network, mostly people in their 30s and 40s wanting to relive their own childhood through old footage.

That's what will happen, that's what's ALREADY happened, that's what is already happening JUST NOW and that's how it'll always be from now on rather than having every single arena sold out with people of all ages, with the shows top to bottom full of characters, full of stars that are OVER, having people on the edge of their seats, WANTING to watch next weeks show, WANTING to pay for the monthly events and wrestling again being relevant in society. That'll never happen again because the people in wrestling are well past their sell by date, they're too old and out of touch, they don't care or want to know what is cool or trendy or what people want. They live in their bubble. They've no clue what is going on outside. They don't have a Vince Russo to tell them their fake wrestling is 20 years out of date with the rest of society. A Game of Thrones, Walking Dead, The Following, you know name it, even a Disney Channel production has more thought into their 20 minute episodes than an episode of Impact or Raw. They have no idea how far the rest of TV and society is ahead of them.


Sad how it's ended up and my sympathys go to the wrestlers who have tried hard and want to be wrestlers and they want this career and it's not their fault about the booking or the money side of things but you know what, the wrestling business has rested on it's laurels for over 10 years now and neither TNA or WWE have tried anything different. It's always the same formula, the same old way of doing business, everything stays the same and a reinvention of the genre would rejuvinate it no end and would get people interested again. Many people like myself wish that Raw was written by the same people that write Total Divas. It's all staged aswell but there's more going on in that show than Raw or Impact. No one is willing to take chances and unfortunately for TNA they don't have the fanbase WWE has so WWE can basically afford to do nothing and put out a 3 hour PG show and it doesn't really matter but for TNA it's not as easy. It seems like everyone wants results results results right away and that's not how wrestling works. Even if Billy Corgan comes in and does wonders for their booking......you need to give it at least 6 months to see if it's worked and even then it needs to be consistent every week. DA or Spike or whoever, they want results right away in the ratings and it just doesn't work like that.

Just as was the case with Spike, publicly confirming that they'll soon have no TV deal places them in a weaker bargaining position when looking for a new one. Can you honestly not understand that? If so, let's just agree to disagree and get on with our lives.

Hazy you're talking crap about Smackdown. I mean a lot of the rest of your post is crap too but that stands out.

And I really don't think TNA can be accused of resting on their laurels. They've clung and clung and to their credit have tried very hard to keep going.