They need to bring back live PPVs.

If Angle wants a regular schedule and payday then at this point his only real options are TNA or WWE. He could absolutely book indy dates although I'm not convinced there are that many indys out there that would be willing or able to pay the kind of fee he'd likely want and he's clearly doesn't have the desire to work a lot of dates so he'd potentially have issues making the kind of guaranteed money he's on now. And this doesn't get into the issue of television exposure. I suppose in theory he could go make money working in Japan although I'm not sure that would be a good move from him health wise and I'm not sure how well he'd gel in the Mexico scene.


They really don't. They don't currently have the fanbase to make them financially worthwhile.

When I say he didn't have an option, I meant between WWE and TNA.

From ROH and DA Twitter


Is this more proof DA is done with TNA

Interesting move. I suppose if they do get cancelled it can't be said DA just aren't interested in wrestling like it was with Spike.

If PPV was viable, they would be doing them already.

MVP certainly isn't happy about ROH now on Destination America. If they do get rid of TNA then it can't be due to ratings as they have outperformed their top shows. It will be down to personal issues and I don't know if TNA have any legs to stand on if that happens. Can they legally do anything about their 2 year contract being cut short while another wrestling show is added to the schedules? Can contracts be terminated due to personal conflicts behind the scenes?

So much for no non-WWE company never getting on TV again etc.

That kinda kills Meltzer's angle on this too though. He was reporting that they were struggling to get advertisers to make it worth the money. There has also been talk about Dixie essentially being obnoxious and stupid towards DA execs. So either ROH is available for a lot less money or Dixie has just pissed the channel off too much.

Dixie conference call at 3pm EST with all the wrestlers. Should be an interesting night. Maybe everything will be put to bed or maybe some fans are right and Dixie knew all along and they will all work together. That's TNA, ROH and NXT all on Thursday nights. Good if you're fans of all 3 companies.


Another interesting point here is if DA are dropping TNA in September then they are basically moving them to Wednesdays so that TNA fans get used to ROH and then when they drop TNA they will keep watching ROH. If that was the case I wouldn't be happy at all.

They could just be trying to get a 'wrestling night' but it's an odd one.

MVP says TNA talent weren't informed, I'm questioning whether TNA were informed.

Hold on I feel faint, I actually agree with you.

Wait let me just read that back. No, it's true, I actually do agree.

It'll be interesting to see what spin TNA/Dixie try to put on this in the talent meeting. I'm guessing that MVP will spill the beans as to what goes down. Personally, I think it's finally the end of the road.

I should have said Wednesday nights earlier, they're all on Wednesday nights. I'm guessing within the next hour most of it will all come out. I think there is a very good chance TNA is gone come September and this is DA knowing that ROH doesn't have the exposure TNA does and they are gonna put TNA on Wednesday's too so that when they drop TNA the fans will be conditioned to ROH an hour before and will stick to watching ROH on Wednesday nights and if that is the case then it shows you not only are DA HAPPY with wrestling on their channel but they can be just as sly and smug as the best of them.

Wrestling and television are cutthroat businesses and it does look like what Hazy has said is exactly what DA are going to do to TNA. Feel bad for the workers but absolutely no sympathy for Dixie Carter.

I again find it very telling that Destination America are yet to comment. They could have made a statement today alongside the ROH one.

What I will say, it does seem odd DA would pick up ROH when cancelling TNA so maybe the rumours aren't true and DA have about the same level of PR training TNA has.

The main difference between ROH and TNA is that DA has to pay for TNA and has to fund the production, while for ROH even if they pay for the tv rights they get a complete product. Even if they don't get advertisers it's a far less costly operation for Destination America.

We'll see, but this is probably not good for TNA, at all.

By the way, how great is it that TNA had UTA negotiating the deal for them (with a 10%-15% fee) and they didn't even get an exclusivity clause with DA?

I can't wait until someone writes a book about TNA and all the shit that's gone down there over the years.

No. The deal they have reportedly has an out clause in September. If Destination America exercise that clause there's nothing TNA can do about it regardless of the reasons behind it.


The RoH deal will be costing Destination America significantly less than the TNA deal. It also isn't first run content. They'll be airing episodes after they've aired on Sinclair group affiliates over the weekend.


As mentioned above Ring of Honor will be costing them less so if, as has been suggested, Destination America want wrestling on the network but can't make TNA work because of the price point a deal with RoH makes sense. They keep a wrestling presence (with a passionate and dedicated fan base) that can help grow the network but also drive down costs. There may also be a content issue. Part of the reason Spike ultimately got out of their deal with TNA is that they didn't like the product. They wanted something that was more wrestling based and in keeping with their MMA (and now boxing as well) plans and TNA wasn't able or willing to deliver that. Destination America may ultimately be having similar thoughts. They want something that's more sports based and more readily packaged that way and again RoH makes sense on that front.

At this point though it should be noted that the Destination America press release indicates that the plan is for Wednesday to be “wrestling night” with both RoH and TNA airing there. Whether they intend to stick with that long term is hard to tell. It may be that they simply don't know what they're going to do yet. It could depend on how RoH performs.

Or if WWE buys it a DVD.

The slight blip and fall of TNA

It isn't the greatest display of business acumen is it lol. Don't worry, blame the dirtsheets.

I doubt they considered an exclusivity clause a pressing priority. In part because (as many in this thread have) they would have considered the chances of another company actually getting a television deal slim to say the least and also because when they signed the deal DA was going all in on TNA so the chances of them having space for another wrestling show was also slim. Plus its not like TNA were in a great position during these negotiations.

I look forward to the series of books. One page at the end of each chapter that simply says:

But it wasn't their fault

In MASSIVE writing!

TNA: Or How Not To Run A Wrestling Company?

And You Think We're Doing A Bad Job?