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And the first airing of Raw is at 1am of course! Not that you'd be aware of that if you read the TNA fanboy posts back when TNA fanboys actually existed. I didn't realise that they were in decline over here too. I wonder why.
I wouldn't I only bother with it because it's free I wouldn't pay and if it went off free UK TV I wouldn't bother to look for it like I do ROH NJPW ect |
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I think I read TNA actually outperform (or at least did) in ratings in a few countries across Europe (one I know for sure is Germany) but TNA is generally on free television.
I've said that before here, and about Pay TV vs FTA/V, but IIRC that didn't matter, it only mattered that TNA was beating WWE. |
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I wonder what the reason for the decline in the UK is though. They've had all sorts of turmoil in the US with networks etc. but things have been steady here for a long time. Maybe they news of them dying and the sense of impending doom coming from the US has put people off here. Or maybe most of their audience were casual looking to see Sting, Hogan, Jeff Hardy, AJ Styles etc. There was that run of absolutely horrific booking in mid-2014 when Dixie was all over TV as well.
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I do wonder why ratings have dropped. As you say despite the turmoil in the US, the UK has remained relatively consistent.
I'm wondering whether that period of Best Of shows that ran through the end of the Spike era led to people switching off and not returning when new shows resumed? |
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Good point. I forgot about that. I'm sure there are lots of people who just saw headlines/links about TNA being cancelled, turned on to see a load of 'Best Of' episodes and assumed the worst.
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From what I have read ticket sales for the Jan Tour are down to.
I know some aren't buying as TNA may be dead by Jan and they don't want to lose money plus they have put the price up to. |
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I wonder what the reason for the decline in the UK is though. They've had all sorts of turmoil in the US with networks etc. but things have been steady here for a long time. Maybe they news of them dying and the sense of impending doom coming from the US has put people off here. Or maybe most of their audience were casual looking to see Sting, Hogan, Jeff Hardy, AJ Styles etc. There was that run of absolutely horrific booking in mid-2014 when Dixie was all over TV as well.
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It was taken off air in the US because it was memorial day weekend and they thought it was going to tank anyway, apparently
The fact they still aired a old TNA on that day is odd. |
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And not bother airing it for the states?
The fact they still aired a old TNA on that day is odd. |
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Yeah because Memorial Day/weekend ratings are traditionally low so they considered it better to air Slammiversary in the slot instead of a new episode getting a low rating.
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I'm surprised they skipped an episode though. Wouldn't it have been easier to air the Slammiversary show internationally as well?
Maybe as they tape so far in advance they didn't know so missing one would mess the dates up later shows. |
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I'm surprised they skipped an episode though. Wouldn't it have been easier to air the Slammiversary show internationally as well?
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On the subject of Impact ratings in the UK I'll just post this which is Impact's ratings this year with the number in the brackets being the equivalent episode last year.
January 11: 142k [158k] January 18: 121k [155k] January 25: 149k [155k] February 1: 172k [136k (Thursday) / 151k (Sunday)] February 8: 214k [238k] February 15: 153k [284k] February 22: 208k [213k] March 1: 155k [259k] March 8: 136k [189k] March 15: 150k [183k] March 22: 172k [194k] March 29: 146k [188k] April 5: 178k [173k] April 12: 157k [202k] April 19: 171k [197k] April 26: 146k [242k] May 3: 120k [234k] May 10: 121k [249k] May 17: 139k [173k] May 24: 121k [153k] May 31: 87k [144k] June 7: 122k [166k] There's been some obvious slipping year-on-year although for the most part those drops aren't huge. The drops themselves also started toward the end of last year in October/November time and through December '14 Impact didn't crack Challenge's top 10 once which would suggest that it was at 100k or less through December (I'm assuming they were airing episodes). |
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I don't know how big the gap was exactly, but wasn't there a 2 or even 3 month gap between new content, when the deal with Spike ended?
That probably turned quite a few viewers away because wrestling has been synonymous with being a weekly thing for many years. |
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So, to recap...title match not happening at Slammiversary, will be on July 1st.
Knockouts title match now happening on July 1st as well instead of Slammiversary. What the hell is gonna be on the ppv? King of the Mountain (for God knows what), Storm vs Magnus (sadly not a Mickie on a pole match), I guess the final match of the best of 5 series for the tag titles...but then? |
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They did air it online.
Maybe as they tape so far in advance they didn't know so missing one would mess the dates up later shows. |
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I presume your on about Slammiversary as no way did Impact air online. Ive tried googling the episode but all I get is links to sites where they say no new TNA this week. I think Dailymotion had the 6 man xdivision match but its in french and to be fair id rather see the full broadcast than just the match.
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I don't know how big the gap was exactly, but wasn't there a 2 or even 3 month gap between new content, when the deal with Spike ended?
That probably turned quite a few viewers away because wrestling has been synonymous with being a weekly thing for many years. Excluding the February 15 (and maybe January 18) show Impact didn't have particularly big year-on-year drops and certainly nothing especially out of the ordinary for television in general. The audience seemed to come back or still be there at the start of the year and just sort of slowly drifted since although to a substantial degree. That's perhaps a sign that the product just isn't resonating with the UK audience in the way it previously was. With that said this might prove an interesting comparison point. Here are the live Raw numbers for the UK in that same January-February time period January 5: 86k [127k] January 12: 95k [135k] January 19: 106k [161k] January 25: 84k [162k] February 2: 118k [191k] February 9: 87k [132k] February 16: 132k [152k] In fact here's an interesting stat for you. In 2014 the live Raw ratings didn't drop below 100k in the UK until September (the Raw before Night of Champions if anyone was wondering). So far this year its been below 100k at least 10 times. Here's something that I think is a particularly damning stat. 2014 Post-Mania Raw: 243k 2015 Post-Mania Raw: 120k I would however add at this point that the Raw repeats during the week seem to be performing a little bit better than they did last year (although not enough to explain all of the audience loss) there might also potentially be more of them looking at some of these ratings lists. Its possible though that as the WWE audience slips in the UK so to does the TNA audience. I'll also just add that the post-Mania 30 Raw audience was also noticeably bigger than the Raw ratings after 27 (119k, it was actually beaten by Smackdown that week which had 160k and the drop in Smackdown numbers over the last couple of years is a whole other story), 28 (202k) and 29 (217k) so apparently UK audiences really liked Daniel Bryan. |
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impact is not gonna grow as a company the way it is right now
looks like asylum days again |
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Impact is not going to grow as a company end of story. The writing is surely on the wall now.
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On other forums I go on even the TNA die hard's are admitting if TNA is still going by end of the year they will be shocked.
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i rmemeber in 2003 when all the smarks said tna would die within 5 years lol
i bet they will claim 12 years as a victory lol |
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They've been around now for as long as WCW was (as WCW) but they don't really have a legacy which is quite sad really. I agree sadly, the time to grow TNA is a company is gone.
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I don't think the time to grow TNA is gone. I would suggest that the issue is more that the inclination or desire to grow TNA appears to have gone. They don't really seem to be striving to grow and compete any more. I mean for all the really terrible mistakes and decisions the company has made over the years for the most part they were born from a desire to grow and become a viable alternative to WWE. At this point they just seem content to survive and tread water (which isn't necessarily a bad thing). It just feels like there's no energy to the company or its product at this point. As bad as it might have been before the move to Destination America I at least felt like they were trying. Not so much now.
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agree, the energy is gone(twice i have agreed with alexi,oh my)
if they wanna go the wrasslin route then go do it 100%, be like ROH, put on amazing matches on your weekly show. this hybrid stuff just aint working. also DX is flawed, it worked very well for aries but since then its just watered down the x division title. |
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