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Whats everyones opinion on Russo for those that watched the interviews? At times I just felt he was trying to swerve us at times as he doesnt always tell the truth in interviews.

When ever hes done recent shoots hes always tried to make it out like it was a big plan to get booker over and they scripted the Jarrett laydown and the shoot comments between him & Hogan were a work. This im finding very hard to believe as it just seemed it wasent a work and it was a legit thing but then again I wasent backstage so I dont know what went on only what I saw on TV and what people reported at the time.

Ive never been labelled "WWE's biggest fan"

of course BATB was a work

hogan wouldnt have pinned jarret impromptu. especially after jarret talked smack. surerly as a human being hogan would have been like you what? wth is this? i am going backstage etc

worked out way to much to plan for it not to have been agreed by all parties beforehand imo

If TNA did go under and the plug got pulled in september which is rumoured for the states how it would affect the UK. I would like to see the UK get exclusive rights to see TNA which could work quite costly unless they just do taping and stuff in the UK for broadcast here which I dont think would work.

Im not sure if ROH would get a Challenge deal as dunno how their contract is where they broadcast in america.

Well a lawsuit did happen & Hulk didnt work for WCW again after that.

Was Hulk rumoured to return at the big Bang WCW PPV in April?

I know Goldberg & Nash were.

hogan got paranoid about it apparently afterwards,felt like he was being used and then the rest of the storyline fell apart as he refused to play any part.

he never won law suit so thats probably a big indicator.

I think TNA need the money to produce the shows, I'm sure Challenge aren't paying enough to cover the production of IMPACT. They would have to dramatically cut costs IMO to not have a US licensing deal.

If TNA doesn't have a US broadcaster, then the gig is up. Unless Panda are stupid enough to keep sinking money in to keep it alive while they try to get it onto some even shittier channel.

I think one of the problems with a new channel is that it would likely mean more cuts. It's said Spike were paying $120,000 per show (not counting the salaries they were paying), that was halved when moving to DA and the negotiators took a cut of that $60,000 a week.

How much lower can TNA go in terms of licensing and still produce a show?

Lord only knows. It seems to me like the cuts have fallen in terms of the production values, though lots of people are being let go from the roster by the looks of it too.

whenever the bumps are louder than the fans its never a good sign.

I think it's a shame that WWE have refused to ever acknowledge (or work with) TNA. The original Monday Night Wars was a great period in wrestling because having different companies acknowledge each other made the whole industry feel bigger and more grown up.

I know TNA have never reached the heights of WCW or threatened WWE, which is what really forced WWE to acknowledge them. But still, hearing JR reference WCW on old RAWs still feels really fresh, and grown up.

The story of pro wrestling which WWE pushes on its network has wrestling history basically end in 2001 with the final victory and presumed eternal reign of WWE. This is unnecessarily boring. I hope the collapse of TNA will mean WWE finally feel able to talk about it and incorporate it into their narrative. There have been good moments, notable talents who never got a WWE run, and WWE talents who had a worthy TNA run. Burying it all out of pride would be a shame.

But as a company, TNA has little to no historical relevance other than the fact that it existed and did a Houdini act for a number of years.

Ring Of Honour is a more significant promotion in wrestling history and has been referenced on WWE TV numerous times.

And besides, TNA spent so much time taking petty shots at WWE in a desperate attempt for acknowledgement. Why should Vince indulge them?

I agree it was a superb PPV. I have an Android Box so I get to see the weekly shows as well as the PPV events and feel that were it not for lack of money they could quite easily be the number 2 promotion in the States ahead of TNA.

I think you hit the nail on the head, WWE didn't have any choice but to mention WCW, it was necessity in the war. The same as the Attitude Era as a whole was born from necessity.

They have no reason to mention TNA, WCW was the second promotion because it was doing something to be considered the second promotion. It then became the first promotion because what it had done to be second promotion was better/better received than what WWE was doing as the first promotion.

TNA has been the second promotion is US wrestling by default really and whilst I agree there have been great points in TNA, they've done very little for it to be considered necessary to mention them in WWE.

And of course, had WWE mentioned TNA it would have been jumped on as an example (by some) of WWE putting TNA down. The WWE timeline may be incredibly boring, but when you look at the entire landscape of professional wrestling/sport entertainment since 2001, WWE did secure the final win of the war and TNA have done nothing to challenge WWE's eternal reign.

pretty silly thing to say. majority of people dont even know it exists.

tna has tv deals all over the world and bigger stars.

you might prefer roh,but it is nowhere near more significant.

I have no particular affinity for ROH but it's more significant for pretty obvious reasons: CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn and more. That's a generation of top WWE stars that have come from ROH while TNA has mainly acted as a place for unwanted WWE stars to go after they had put their prime.

they are the most significant feeder system in wrestling sure. but we are talking about number 2 company here.

tna got 1m viewers on cable tv. there might not even be 1m people in the world who know roh exisits.

Because I even read fan theories that WWE were funding them and had a working relationship with them like ECW in the mid to late 90's


I do think when and lets be honest it's more when now that if TNA dies ROH will be number two I wouldn't be shocked if they do get more TV deals worldwide.

I'm not talking about who is the number two company, I'm talking about historical significance when people look back in years to come. TNA hasn't drawn any money, hasn't really created any stars and hasn't really brought any significant developments while ROH his seasoned a lot of the guys who have went on to be top stars in the top promotion. I think that's more significant overall than what TNA has brought to the table.

And of course there are more than one million people in the world that know that ROH exists. That's just absurd. How many WWE fans do you think have searched up CM Punk or Daniel Bryan on Wikipedia? How many people in Japan watch the top wrestling promotion in that country, which exchanges talent with ROH?

Even most of the top stars in TNA who were not in WWE first made their name in ROH before going to TNA.

Most? More like two or three. But that in itself isn't really an issue or a criticism of TNA in any way.

Though I get your point. I doubt that TNA has the resources to train people from scratch. Where did the likes of James Storm and Bobby Roode get their start in wrestling?

If you add those two or three to the ones who were in WWE or WCW first that is almost all of them.

Who have they made themselves Roode Storm and at a push maybe Abyss.

The indies mainly.

Roode was doing dark matches for WWE for 2 years though I think he made it onto Velocity once or twice