Originally Posted by orangeballoon:
“its quite obvious this weeks shows are very much the "future storyline"...”
I feel like people might be putting way too much weight of expectation on this weeks TNA output.
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“good job heyman never wormed himself into the inner circle,with his track record tna would be dead by now!”
Yeah thank God they went with Vince Russo and Eric Bischoff instead two men with nothing but resounding success on their CVs...
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“If Dixie had Heymans money TNA would have been dead about 10 years ago.
If Heyman had Dixie's parents money ECW would still be going today”
The second point is certainly true assuming Heyman wouldn't have wanted to move on and do other things. How well ECW does without Heyman driving it is an open debate I suppose.
The first point is probably true but I'm curious as to whether Carter may have operated differently if she didn't have the guarantee of deep pockets to bail her out. I wonder if that same basic thought might also be true of Bischoff in WCW. Its very easy to spend and spend when you know the money is there regardless of whether you're making it or not. If the money isn't there I wonder if they might have approached things differently. I mean we presumably wouldn't have seen Bischoff and Hogan in TNA without the Carter money.
Originally Posted by seibu:
“I agree. Surely it's time for TNA to just throw out the rule book and try some crazy nonsense? An inter-company feud where GFW actually win, "take over" TNA & supplant Dixie, taking their slot on TV and rebranding the company etc. Works for me. And hasn't actually been done before - which you can't say about much in wrestling.”
I'd agree that an invasion angle sounds fun on paper but I have doubts about the reality of it. Mainly these doubts are driven by how remarkably dull and unexciting the GFW roster and company in general is at this point. It feels to me as if it would become Jeff Jarrett returns to take back TNA and I really have no interest in that. The RoH vs. TNA feud that was kicked around by some when RoH joined Destination America held more interest to me although I'm not entirely sure how that would work or what would be the driving narrative of it.
Originally Posted by seibu:
“I loved the original invasion idea of RAW becoming a WCW show. Shame the network allegedly rejected the idea.”
This really just speaks volumes about how damaged the WCW brand was by this point. None of the existing WWE broadcast partners were willing to have the WWE show rebranded as a WCW show and try as they might WCW couldn't get a new WCW deal with anyone either. Its staggering how quickly WCW fell apart really. The inability to really do anything with WCW as a brand really tied WWE's hands in an unfortunate way with the Invasion. Not that you could say they made the best of a bad hand though.
Quote:
“EDIT: Hey imagine this: Sting came out at 'Mania, grabbed the mic and said "I've been planning this for a decade". All the monitors & screens switch to WCW logo as he laughs manically. Booker, Flair and other WCW almuni surround the ring "I'll fight you Hunter, but it's going to be a WCW match ..". Come on, we'd all have marked out.”
I really wouldn't have.
Originally Posted by seibu:
“'reports', eh? 'reports' that cast TNA in a negative light? I've never heard of such a thing. Sounds legit.”
In fairness they're fairly logical reports.
TNA wrestlers had booked independent dates for July (that's easy to verify) and will have had to cancel some of those events to make the TV tapings (also very easy to verify). Whether they'd be pissed about that is difficult to say I suppose although it doesn't seem like a huge leap to believe they would be given the recent history of delayed TNA payments.
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“So you should actully get paid for it then a local shop was paying her more money for selling sunglasses than the so called number 2 wrestling company in the world was paying her for being their champion.”
In defence of TNA here I'm not convinced by the reports that anyone was working a second job because they needed the money. I think what's more likely to be true is that she was working a second job because the second job provided her with benefits (healthcare etc) that she wasn't getting from TNA and was probably too expensive to do privately. This by the way is nothing new in pro-wrestling. It wasn't uncommon (and still isn't) that the partners of WWE wrestlers, particularly those lower down the card, would be working jobs not because they needed the money but because those jobs provided benefits that the WWE didn't.