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TNA Wrestling on Challenge TV (Part 2)
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JCR
29-06-2015
Originally Posted by twitter:
“Eric Young @TheEricYoung

Real world!!! If you watched #Slammiversary2015 and didn't like it GO **** YOURSELF #ProWrestling #proud #5thday #agame #teameffort”

This, in my 'umble opinion, without hyperbole, maybe the stupidest thing a wrestler has ever said online.

Altogether now-

loltna.

Dixie is now retweeting people saying it was the best wrestling ppv ever.
James Frederick
29-06-2015
Originally Posted by JCR:
“This, in my 'umble opinion, without hyperbole, maybe the stupidest thing a wrestler has ever said online.

Altogether now-

loltna.

Dixie is now retweeting people saying it was the best wrestling ppv ever.”

Given the crap build up the last minuite thrown together matches and the fact it was just a add for next weeks Impact it was far better than it ever should have been.

But it doesn't change the fact that it was still just OK
dave_windows
29-06-2015
So Angles back in 3 weeks then it seems.
orangeballoon
29-06-2015
this weeks impact & slamerversary were very good.
the wrestling did not have its "going through the motions" moment where it looks like they have just woken up frm being asleep for a week...

it does make me laugh though because of the "weeks recorded" at a time how tattoos & beards can suddenly be "full" when "7 days ago" they were hardly there!

i dont think tna can keep that rate up though... and with the guys who have left this will be one "kayfabe" storyline if it isnt another set of stories to the "last day" of a tv contract...
AlexiR
29-06-2015
Originally Posted by Steveaustin316:
“I believe the deal fell through once all WCW programming was dropped from TNT and TBS.

They announced on TV that the company had new owners when the deal was not finalized. Not sure why they did that.”

Because... WCW.

In general I imagine the theory behind it was an attempt to stop the bleeding and keep the audience they still had with a promise that the future was brighter.

Originally Posted by Steveaustin316:
“Were the USA Network interested considering they no longer had Raw?”

The WCW brand was completely toxic by this point to the extent that even with the incredibly successful and popular WWF brand backing it television networks still weren't willing to bite. As soon as the Turner networks made it clear they weren't going to keep WCW on the air the writing was on the wall and its hard to imagine anyone else was going to take the gamble on a 'new' WCW particularly not at the pricepoint that would have been needed to make the company viable for new investors who presumably wouldn't have been willing to write off millions like Turner was.
AlexiR
29-06-2015
Now officially confirmed that Nick Aldis (formally Magnus) has signed with GFW.
FMKK
29-06-2015
Christ. From a sinking ship to one that can't even get out of the dock.
DejaVoodoo
29-06-2015
Nice of him to take a picture with his new boss in the venue of his old boss.
http://globalforcewrestling.com/lop/...ff-jarrett.jpg
hazydayz
29-06-2015
But how can we watch GFW? I'm assuming they have a TV deal right?




Cause without a TV deal they're just a travelling tribute show. they're nothing without a TV deal.
FMKK
29-06-2015
At this stage, I don't think Jarrett or TNA actually know where this new association is actually going to go. I wouldn't be surprised if they're thinking of working an angle but that there's also some real-life intrigue as to Jarrett's intentions (buy the company, inherit it's TV slot etc.) one would assume that he must have something up his sleeve otherwise it would make no sense for Magnus to actually sign a deal with them rather than working pay-per-appearance. Unless Magnus is just dumb.
James Frederick
29-06-2015
Eric Young posted more things on Twitter.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/5923...rsary-reaction



Yes before the PPV they had 5 days of block tapings so that could have been their 10th 15th maybe more match that week and they were tired but blame TNA not the fans

To say it was the best PPV of all time is putting TNA down they have had much better PPV's Eric Young has been in much better matches on PPV.

As I said it was better than I thought I was expecting December to Dismember levels of suck it was no better than a just ok WWE B PPV though
Lee_Smith2
29-06-2015
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“At this stage, I don't think Jarrett or TNA actually know where this new association is actually going to go. I wouldn't be surprised if they're thinking of working an angle but that there's also some real-life intrigue as to Jarrett's intentions (buy the company, inherit it's TV slot etc.) one would assume that he must have something up his sleeve otherwise it would make no sense for Magnus to actually sign a deal with them rather than working pay-per-appearance. Unless Magnus is just dumb.”

It's unknown what the terms of the contract are or the terms of his release. He's one of the few guys in TNA you would think Triple H would be eager to sign - tall, works the WWE style, late 20's, not injury prone, experienced and can cut a promo.
James Frederick
29-06-2015
Originally Posted by Lee_Smith2:
“It's unknown what the terms of the contract are or the terms of his release. He's one of the few guys in TNA you would think Triple H would be eager to sign - tall, works the WWE style, late 20's, not injury prone, experienced and can cut a promo.”

He is close friends with Paige to as her parents trained him so she could have a word not saying she has much or any pull but I'm sure they would listen


I know him a little bit he used to work shows here while he was training and he used to talk to me a bit.
AlexiR
29-06-2015
Originally Posted by Lee_Smith2:
“It's unknown what the terms of the contract are or the terms of his release. He's one of the few guys in TNA you would think Triple H would be eager to sign - tall, works the WWE style, late 20's, not injury prone, experienced and can cut a promo.”

I don't know. When you look at the guys Triple H has brought in and pursued I'm not sure Aldis does fit what he's looking for. Its difficult to peg though I suppose.
seibu
29-06-2015
Just finished watching Slammiversary. I thought it was better than it had any right to be.

The highlights for me were the opening x div match and the Storm / Magnus brawl. I like the elimination system for triple threats. For me, all multi-man matches should be elimination rules. First fall wins has always been just silly.

The Magnus / Storm brawl was as good a trashfest as you're likely to see. Some lovely, stiff and inventive spots. I also enjoyed the production problems after. First ever example of wrestlers damaging production equipment actually having a consequence?

I must admit if EC3 had the world title I missed it. Did he? If so that's an unforgivable continuity error.

I really, really wish TNA could avoid filming things out of order. It's just a bridge too far in terms of suspending my disbelief.

I still think TNA and GFW don't really have a plan going forward. But at least the possibility of something interesting happening is keeping TNA's death throes fun.
seibu
29-06-2015
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Firstly, modern day pro wrestling TNA? This is a joke right?

Secondly Impact and RoH really aren't that far apart particularly not when you break down the cost of the programming. If I'm a network executive I'm going to be much more tempted to bring in an RoH show than I am a TNA show. In part this is to do with the relative histories of the two but also because I'm going to find it much easier to make money from RoH. Its a substantially cheaper product that's reaching a not dissimilar audience level as TNA. There's also the issue that I can more easily package a 'pure wrestling' show than I can whatever it is you want to call the TNA product at this point.”

Once again, respectfully and in the nicest possible way, I have to ask how you can comment on 'the TNA product at this point' when you don't actually watch it?
Hollie_Louise
29-06-2015
Originally Posted by seibu:
“Just finished watching Slammiversary. I thought it was better than it had any right to be.

The highlights for me were the opening x div match and the Storm / Magnus brawl. I like the elimination system for triple threats. For me, all multi-man matches should be elimination rules. First fall wins has always been just silly.

The Magnus / Storm brawl was as good a trashfest as you're likely to see. Some lovely, stiff and inventive spots. I also enjoyed the production problems after. First ever example of wrestlers damaging production equipment actually having a consequence?

I must admit if EC3 had the world title I missed it. Did he? If so that's an unforgivable continuity error.

I really, really wish TNA could avoid filming things out of order. It's just a bridge too far in terms of suspending my disbelief.

I still think TNA and GFW don't really have a plan going forward. But at least the possibility of something interesting happening is keeping TNA's death throes fun.”

I need to carry on watching from the knockouts match because I couldn't keep my eyes open but I liked the X Division match and the Aries/Edwards match too. Hearing good things though and will watch at some point this week.

I too wish they wouldn't film things out of order. But then I suppose it's only an issue for the PPV months.
AlexiR
29-06-2015
Originally Posted by seibu:
“Once again, respectfully and in the nicest possible way, I have to ask how you can comment on 'the TNA product at this point' when you don't actually watch it?”

Or you could pay attention to what I actually said which wasn't that I don't watch the product.
seibu
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“Or you could pay attention to what I actually said which wasn't that I don't watch the product.”

Do you watch TNA? I'm pretty sure in the past you've said you don't. I guess I could be wrong.
whedon247
30-06-2015
boring show mostly but storm vs magnus was great

really enjoyed main event aswell as at least with jarret there it had some excitement and potential for soemthing big to happen. him winning was a good step.

lets hope gfw can shake things up.
James Frederick
30-06-2015
Quote:
“According to F4WOnline.com, some of the TNA talents who recently left the company are actually being transferred to Global Force Wrestling for a future invasion angle between the promotions.

Any former TNA talent who is now in GFW (like Magnus) or who might end up signing with GFW, is expected back on TNA TV at some point in the future. James Storm is also expected back to work future TV tapings.

With regards to Magnus, although a press release issued by GFW today claimed he had signed with the promotion, he hasnt actually signed a contract, and as of now is scheduled to appear at the July 9th-11th live events and the TV tapings on July 24th.”


Because of this I am now seeing fan theories than GFW is TNA and Jarrett getting fired and starting up GFW is all a work.

I myself don't think this and think either Jarrett is buying or has bought back TNA and this is a storyline or TNA and GFW have a working relationship
whedon247
30-06-2015
maybe GFW is being downgraded to a faction rather than a company,

either way at least it is somewhat exciting.
Hollie_Louise
30-06-2015
Obviously this isn't a massive situation/issue, but PWI have revealed they are no longer recognising the TNA World Heavyweight Championship as a word title.

Quote:
““There’s only one world, so there can only be one world champion.” Though I can’t recall the origin of that quote, I was always impressed with its simple profundity. And I always agreed with its sentiment: Under ideal circumstances, there would be just one world champion in professional wrestling. For the half-century or so that this company has been publishing wrestling magzazines, those ideal circumstances never existed. Until now. Effective immediately, PWI will recognize only one world title- the WWE World Heavyweight Championship.

This is not necessarily an indictment of TNA, the only other company whose title has received world title status from PWI over the past eight years. The decision is all about WWE and its continued dominance of the industry. In all candor, it’s a decision that is long overdue. Historically speaking, there was a time when it would have been improper NOT to recognize multiple world title claimants. Before the McMahonification of pro wrestling, when the business was broken up into numerous regional territories governed largely by the WWF, NWA, and the AWA, there was every reason to recognize the champions of each of those companies on an equal plane. Both the NWA and AWA predates the existence of WWE’s forerunner, the WWWF, and covered more geographic territory.

Throughout the 60′s, 70′s, and 80′s, our magazines supported the world title claims of all three companies. As the WWF underwent its aggressive expansion program in the mid-1980′s, it became clear that the business was becoming a two horse race, with the AWA fading and the NWA’s title lineage being co-opted by WCW under the ownership of first Jim Crocket and then Ted Turner.

We reluctantly stripped the dying AWA of world title status at the end of 1990 and did not recognize another world title until ECW received its national TV deal in 1999.That turned out to be a mistake, as the original ECW lasted less than two more years. It would be another five years before PWI would recognize another world title claim, that being the NWA again, this time under the auspices of TNA in 2006. The world title distinction continued when TNA dissolved its relationship with the NWA a year later.

Is TNA’s reduced national audience with Destination America as its national TV carrier the reason for our change in policy? The answer is an emphatic “probably not!” Had TNA not received any national TV deal after its split with Spike, we probably would have downgraded the title, but that was not the case. TNA exists as a reduced yet viable national company, but to its credit, it continues to expand its presence internationally. However, the continued growth of Ring of Honor on the Sinclair network and the emergence of Lucha Underground on the El Rey Network make them part of the discussion as well. Then there’s the matter of New Japan Pro Wrestling, who’s IWGP heavyweight belt was, for the second straight year, selected by the “PWI Poll” panel as the most important in the sport, aside from WWE.

Even TNA loyalists would concede that New Japan is the number two wrestling company in the world. It’s time to acknowledge that all these companies combined do not measure up to the size, influence, and significance of the WWE World title…from this point hence, the only world title we’ll recognize.”

FMKK
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Because of this I am now seeing fan theories than GFW is TNA and Jarrett getting fired and starting up GFW is all a work.

I myself don't think this and think either Jarrett is buying or has bought back TNA and this is a storyline or TNA and GFW have a working relationship”

That theory is completely ridiculous. Just because there's some sort of working relationship now doesn't mean that the issues of the past weren't real. It just means that both parties are as desperate as it gets to get something from this.
seibu
30-06-2015
I think that PWI decision is spot on.

There are 'news sources' which are using the downgrading of the TNA title as another excuse to laugh at TNA. But I think wrestling fans should be more worried about what it says about the shrinking wrestling industry that there is now only one viable world title.
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