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TNA Wrestling on Challenge TV (Part 2)
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James Frederick
11-07-2015
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Was that a house show?”

No from what I know it's just a show Jeff sold to a local promoter.

Basiclly Jeff sells the show (the guys ring set up ect) for a set price then who buys it gets the gate money.

This way Jeff gets the same amount if 1 or 1000 people show up it's who bought it takes the risk of profit or loss.

I think they start taping Ampted ( The name of the weekly show) in a few weeks rumours are Jeff has a TV deal in the works.
dave_windows
11-07-2015
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“No from what I know it's just a show Jeff sold to a local promoter.

Basiclly Jeff sells the show (the guys ring set up ect) for a set price then who buys it gets the gate money.

This way Jeff gets the same amount if 1 or 1000 people show up it's who bought it takes the risk of profit or loss.

I think they start taping Ampted ( The name of the weekly show) in a few weeks rumours are Jeff has a TV deal in the works.”

Christ! Thats bad for TNA, even Ive wrestled in front of a bigger crowd than that.
JCR
12-07-2015
Ironically PCW in Preston drew a big crowd today, all be it a free show, largely using talent best known from TNA - https://twitter.com/DaveMastiff/stat...009728/photo/1

(Show was- Dave Mastiff won the PCW title beating Chris Masters. Team 3D beat Team Single in a tables match. Bubblegum beat Rockstar Spud. Sha Samuels beat Mr Anderson. Velvet Sky & Viper beat Toni Storm & April Davids. Noam Dar beat Ryan Smile. Martin Kirby won a money in the bank match against Lionheart, Joey Hayes, Dean Allmark, Charlie Garrett & El Ligero.)
dave_windows
12-07-2015
Is masters still jacked or has he slimmed down?
James Frederick
12-07-2015
So Josh is a heel announcer this week.
James Frederick
12-07-2015
No they have switched now Josh is face
James Frederick
12-07-2015
Josh is heel again.

Why not just make their mind up.
James Frederick
12-07-2015
The Jeff Jarrett interview he just said TNA was AJ Styles Joe and more only Kurt And Beer Money are still in TNA.

He came right out and said what made TNA great is gone.

I know it's part of a storyline but I didn't think even TNA would air a interview saying TNA sucks now
whedon247
13-07-2015
good,more realism needed
FMKK
13-07-2015
TNA burying their own product is nothing new. They've always been idiots.
whedon247
13-07-2015
you also said you ddint like storylines that didn't have clear goody vs baddy. instead of trashing tna why not just see that they do not cater to fans who want the 70s and 80s back?

tbf you didnt live through attitude era though so you cant be expected to understand the brilliance of shootesque storylines
FMKK
13-07-2015
That reads like every Whedon post ever and surprisingly enough, makes no sense and bares no relation to anything I've actually said.
whedon247
13-07-2015
ok if you really think that.

to clarify the post meant that you clearly like traditional wrestling formula from 70s and 80s(which was very popular! not a dig) like current wwe provides.

so maybe thats why you hate tna.
FMKK
13-07-2015
I hate TNA because they're stupid and have never learned any lessons of their stupidity.

And WWE is really nothing like the wrestling formula of the 70s and 80s.
whedon247
13-07-2015
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“I hate TNA because they're stupid and have never learned any lessons of their stupidity.

And WWE is really nothing like the wrestling formula of the 70s and 80s.”

because the one time they nearly had heel vs heel you got angry at them?(well as angry as you can get towards the machine)

will have to agree to disagree on that one!
FMKK
13-07-2015
I don't know what that's in reference to, I can't remember.

The point I was trying to make about TNA though is that they're always undermining their own company in their storylines. They've done it throughout their history, having people come in and basically talk about how second rate TNA and it's wrestlers are. If you want to grow a brand, I don't think it's a good idea to talk it down constantly, especially when only a select few people will understand the sort of wider picture.
whedon247
13-07-2015
dont think they have done it anywhere that much personally.

and i was refering to lesnar vs rollins.
FMKK
13-07-2015
When was this because Brock has essentially been a face for six months and for about a year to me.
seibu
13-07-2015
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“I don't know what that's in reference to, I can't remember.

The point I was trying to make about TNA though is that they're always undermining their own company in their storylines. They've done it throughout their history, having people come in and basically talk about how second rate TNA and it's wrestlers are. If you want to grow a brand, I don't think it's a good idea to talk it down constantly, especially when only a select few people will understand the sort of wider picture.”

I actually love TNA's occasional references to their own real-world problems. I like it because, as whedon says, it's grounded in reality.

To me, having Hogan leave with Dixie clinging, pleading, to his ankle was complete genius and utterly hilarious. As was the Aces & Eights funeral - my favourite TNA segment ever. It's these bits where the fantasy world of wrestling makes nods to the real world which make wrestling worth watching, to me.

I guess this attitude is central to why I often have a different take on wrestling matters to some other posters on this forum. I'm not trying to be difficult, I promise!
whedon247
13-07-2015
hogan calling raw xxx porno wrestling on nitro...realism

piper and flair making references to young guys being angrya bout no pushes...realism.

bring realism back...and no hhh reality era is not real!
Hollie_Louise
13-07-2015
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“TNA burying their own product is nothing new. They've always been idiots.”

I'm sure somebody, somewhere in TNA thought this was aN absolutely fantastic move.
Hollie_Louise
13-07-2015
Originally Posted by seibu:
“I actually love TNA's occasional references to their own real-world problems. I like it because, as whedon says, it's grounded in reality.

To me, having Hogan leave with Dixie clinging, pleading, to his ankle was complete genius and utterly hilarious. As was the Aces & Eights funeral - my favourite TNA segment ever. It's these bits where the fantasy world of wrestling makes nods to the real world which make wrestling worth watching, to me.

I guess this attitude is central to why I often have a different take on wrestling matters to some other posters on this forum. I'm not trying to be difficult, I promise! ”

You really believe it was genius to make a man on his last night look more important than basically anybody on the roster? That is a genius booking decision?
dave_windows
13-07-2015
It was pretty sad really given shes supposed to be the owner of the company.
DejaVoodoo
13-07-2015
Didn't Hogan have creative control for the last period of his contract?
AlexiR
13-07-2015
I'll say this about the most recent Impact, EC3 has grown into a fantastic dick heel.

Originally Posted by JCR:
“Invasion angle started..... on youtube- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3QH4f2-Z4E”

"You have to pay to see me..." says TNA wrestler Eric Young. Feel free to make your own joke here.

Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“I know it's part of a storyline but I didn't think even TNA would air a interview saying TNA sucks now”

The problem is that they don't have anyone articulating the counter point to that (at least not yet). Its fine to have Jarrett advance that view but it needs someone pushing back against it. And pushing back against him.

Originally Posted by whedon247:
“hogan calling raw xxx porno wrestling on nitro...realism

piper and flair making references to young guys being angrya bout no pushes...realism.

bring realism back...and no hhh reality era is not real!”

I'm very much against 'realism' because it isn't realism its smarky insider references that actually add nothing to the product and the vast majority of the audience couldn't care less about.
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