It isn't, it's just a poor defence again.
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Maybe Dixie should give that a go because at the minute the low morale reports are coming from the fact they haven't had a paying fan through the door since January, the fact several roster members have departed recently, the unanswered reports that they are without a TV home in a months time, the fact TNA can't pull a PPV buying audience and as such there are again unanswered reports that their contracts are being changed.
If I worked there id have low morale too
If I worked there id have low morale too
Then what's the problem with Meltzer reporting low morale? I think it's pretty obvious there will be
It's more that he's been reporting 'low morale' every week for eight years.
No doubt there's always *somebody* moaning backstage. But the power of the media is the power of omission. You can bet there's somebody moaning backstage at WWE too, but that doesn't get reported. Go as they say, figure.
No doubt there's always *somebody* moaning backstage. But the power of the media is the power of omission. You can bet there's somebody moaning backstage at WWE too, but that doesn't get reported. Go as they say, figure.
Originally Posted by seibu:
“It's more that he's been reporting 'low morale' every week for eight years.
No doubt there's always *somebody* moaning backstage. But the power of the media is the power of omission. You can bet there's somebody moaning backstage at WWE too, but that doesn't get reported. Go as they say, figure.”
“It's more that he's been reporting 'low morale' every week for eight years.
No doubt there's always *somebody* moaning backstage. But the power of the media is the power of omission. You can bet there's somebody moaning backstage at WWE too, but that doesn't get reported. Go as they say, figure.”
I've seen reports of low morale amongst WWE roster members in the last year.
Originally Posted by seibu:
“Oh come on Alexi!
As usual we don't really disagree about anything other than emphasis. I totally said that WWE can't benefit from referencing TNA. My point was that that's boring.”
“Oh come on Alexi!
As usual we don't really disagree about anything other than emphasis. I totally said that WWE can't benefit from referencing TNA. My point was that that's boring.”
And I asked you why would WWE do it if they gain nothing from it (a question you haven't actually answered). In fact why would any company do something from which they receive no benefit?
Quote:
“Frequently that's the problem with modern WWE: What's truly best for business is frequently boring. And I'm a viewer, not a shareholder.”
“Frequently that's the problem with modern WWE: What's truly best for business is frequently boring. And I'm a viewer, not a shareholder.”
Only this has absolutely nothing to do with the corporate environment of the WWE. They have exactly zero history of acknowledging other companies unless they're forced to. McMahon had no interest in acknowledging WCW until they took all of his top stars and became actual competition for him at which point he was left with very little option but to acknowledge their existence. And even then it was fairly fleeting. When WWE got back on track again they more or less went back into their bubble. If TNA want WWE's attention then they have to earn it.
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“Oh, and it's completely a matter of opinion whether TNA's references to WWE were 'we're an underdog' or 'we suck'. But being hyper-critical of TNA is the 'net's default position.”
“Oh, and it's completely a matter of opinion whether TNA's references to WWE were 'we're an underdog' or 'we suck'. But being hyper-critical of TNA is the 'net's default position.”
Its completely a matter of opinion I'm just going to try and invalidate your opinion by resurrecting the internet is all one hive mind argument.
Originally Posted by seibu:
“It's more that he's been reporting 'low morale' every week for eight years.”
“It's more that he's been reporting 'low morale' every week for eight years.”
Maybe that's because there's been low morale every week for eight years. I'd also point out that you don't need to read dirtsheets to see the truth of the low morale reports. AJ Styles has bolted and made it clear he's not interested in going back. Look at Samoe Joe's time in TNA and how he completely switched off at the end. These are all pretty clear signs that there's a lot to this morale issue.
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“No doubt there's always *somebody* moaning backstage. But the power of the media is the power of omission. You can bet there's somebody moaning backstage at WWE too, but that doesn't get reported. Go as they say, figure.”
“No doubt there's always *somebody* moaning backstage. But the power of the media is the power of omission. You can bet there's somebody moaning backstage at WWE too, but that doesn't get reported. Go as they say, figure.”
It gets reported about WWE all the time as well.
Originally Posted by HaloJoe:
“Anyone found a good stream?”
“Anyone found a good stream?”
No but I live near the sea so it doesn't really matter.
They've added two more New York dates in September which is said to be them resuming domestic touring. Apparently there is also plans for TV tapings in October
Kurt Angle is doing a tour of the nations football grounds at £250 a pop top teir-
I know people who have paid for £105 tickets, but would anyone here pay £250 to meet Angle?
Quote:
“Wednesday 18th November
West Ham Football Club
Boleyn Ground (Upton Park)
Green St, London E13 9AZ
Thursday 19th November
Cardiff City FC
Leckwith Road, Cardiff, CF11
Friday 20th November
Leicester City FC
King Power Stadium
Filbert Way, Leicester LE2 7FL
Saturday 21st November
Rotherham FC
AESSEAL New York Stadium
New York Way,
Rotherham S60 1AH
Sunday 22nd November
Hearts FC
Tynecastle
McLeod St, Edinburgh EH11 2NL
Superfan Olympic VIP package – £250.00
LIMITED TO 10 PEOPLE ONLY includes:-
30 minute meet and greet with Kurt
Champagne reception
Take personal pictures with your camera/ camera phone
3 signatures of any item of your choosing
1 photo with our professional photographer signed and printed on the evening
opportunity to purchase 5 additional signatures at £20 each
Best seats in the venue front of the stage
Entry into the Q and A
1 9×6 picture of Kurt
1 Food voucher
1 Personalised picture mount
Gold ticket – £105
Entry into the interview and Q and A
1 Picture with Kurt with our professional photographer printed on the night
2 signatures of any item of your choosing
Chance to ask Kurt a question in the Q and A
Prime seating location
1 9×6 picture of Kurt
1 Food voucher
Chance to by 3 additional signatures at £20 each
Silver ticket – £50
Entry into the interview and Q and A
1 Picture with Kurt with our professional photographer printed on the night
chance to purchase 1 additional signature at £20
Bronze ticket – £30
Entry into the interview and Q and A”
“Wednesday 18th November
West Ham Football Club
Boleyn Ground (Upton Park)
Green St, London E13 9AZ
Thursday 19th November
Cardiff City FC
Leckwith Road, Cardiff, CF11
Friday 20th November
Leicester City FC
King Power Stadium
Filbert Way, Leicester LE2 7FL
Saturday 21st November
Rotherham FC
AESSEAL New York Stadium
New York Way,
Rotherham S60 1AH
Sunday 22nd November
Hearts FC
Tynecastle
McLeod St, Edinburgh EH11 2NL
Superfan Olympic VIP package – £250.00
LIMITED TO 10 PEOPLE ONLY includes:-
30 minute meet and greet with Kurt
Champagne reception
Take personal pictures with your camera/ camera phone
3 signatures of any item of your choosing
1 photo with our professional photographer signed and printed on the evening
opportunity to purchase 5 additional signatures at £20 each
Best seats in the venue front of the stage
Entry into the Q and A
1 9×6 picture of Kurt
1 Food voucher
1 Personalised picture mount
Gold ticket – £105
Entry into the interview and Q and A
1 Picture with Kurt with our professional photographer printed on the night
2 signatures of any item of your choosing
Chance to ask Kurt a question in the Q and A
Prime seating location
1 9×6 picture of Kurt
1 Food voucher
Chance to by 3 additional signatures at £20 each
Silver ticket – £50
Entry into the interview and Q and A
1 Picture with Kurt with our professional photographer printed on the night
chance to purchase 1 additional signature at £20
Bronze ticket – £30
Entry into the interview and Q and A”
I know people who have paid for £105 tickets, but would anyone here pay £250 to meet Angle?
Seems very steep to me, especially considering that he's going to charge more for extra signatures. Is he hard up for a few bob or just overestimating his worth? Maybe some people would pay that but I certainly wouldn't for Angle or anyone.
the branding of impact shows with the names of traditional build point ppvs isnt really working is it... they just dont have the "build" and they dont have the gravitas
and using "released" wrestlers for major stories isnt a usual practice for a reason - especially when they tape a month of shows, then do a live ppv where they say goodbye before the taped ones are shown
i wish tna well, but it needs live "ppv" shows (even if it was impact, and even if they then recorded a month of shows AFTER, not before as they did the last live traditional ppv)... because that is how stories can be structured. and wrestling needs stories.
things must be very tight if they cant do a schedule like...
"ppv class impact" shown "live or near live" even if it was the day before... then do a few days of impact recordings building to the next iteration of the cycle.. thus keeping the shock of the end of story and start of story twists to the near live show.
and using "released" wrestlers for major stories isnt a usual practice for a reason - especially when they tape a month of shows, then do a live ppv where they say goodbye before the taped ones are shown
i wish tna well, but it needs live "ppv" shows (even if it was impact, and even if they then recorded a month of shows AFTER, not before as they did the last live traditional ppv)... because that is how stories can be structured. and wrestling needs stories.
things must be very tight if they cant do a schedule like...
"ppv class impact" shown "live or near live" even if it was the day before... then do a few days of impact recordings building to the next iteration of the cycle.. thus keeping the shock of the end of story and start of story twists to the near live show.
What is happening with the UK tour? Some fans say its being televised but others say it isnt because the Destination AMerica run will be finished by then.
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“What is happening with the UK tour? Some fans say its being televised but others say it isnt because the Destination AMerica run will be finished by then.”
“What is happening with the UK tour? Some fans say its being televised but others say it isnt because the Destination AMerica run will be finished by then.”
I think the likelihood is that they don't know yet.
Originally Posted by orangeballoon:
“the branding of impact shows with the names of traditional build point ppvs isnt really working is it... they just dont have the "build" and they dont have the gravitas
and using "released" wrestlers for major stories isnt a usual practice for a reason - especially when they tape a month of shows, then do a live ppv where they say goodbye before the taped ones are shown
i wish tna well, but it needs live "ppv" shows (even if it was impact, and even if they then recorded a month of shows AFTER, not before as they did the last live traditional ppv)... because that is how stories can be structured. and wrestling needs stories.
things must be very tight if they cant do a schedule like...
"ppv class impact" shown "live or near live" even if it was the day before... then do a few days of impact recordings building to the next iteration of the cycle.. thus keeping the shock of the end of story and start of story twists to the near live show.”
“the branding of impact shows with the names of traditional build point ppvs isnt really working is it... they just dont have the "build" and they dont have the gravitas
and using "released" wrestlers for major stories isnt a usual practice for a reason - especially when they tape a month of shows, then do a live ppv where they say goodbye before the taped ones are shown
i wish tna well, but it needs live "ppv" shows (even if it was impact, and even if they then recorded a month of shows AFTER, not before as they did the last live traditional ppv)... because that is how stories can be structured. and wrestling needs stories.
things must be very tight if they cant do a schedule like...
"ppv class impact" shown "live or near live" even if it was the day before... then do a few days of impact recordings building to the next iteration of the cycle.. thus keeping the shock of the end of story and start of story twists to the near live show.”
I agree. TNA discovered that going live didn't increase ratings so they stopped doing it. Also, their PPVs didn't make any money so they stopped doing them in favour of Impact 'specials'. The PPVs now are pretty much only to fulfil contractual obligations.
It's a shame, but they're doing what they need to in order to have the best chance of survival.
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Hopefully Challenge wont lose a wrestling slot on a sunday night.”
“Hopefully Challenge wont lose a wrestling slot on a sunday night.”
i think they know they have viewers if they can get product at a cheap enough price to keep it viable. they are part of sky of course, but sky really dont "owe" the wwe much exclusivity anymore... raw seems to have become a 1 hour show, as has smackdown... and when watching the live 3 hour monday show you can see why... they still cut out the "middle hour filler" which is often based around an american product placement "wrestle/advert" (be it for fast food or a film) and a jokey match... and the other hour cut is the references to the wwe network time...
but, did they build a "wrestling block" with roh & gfw shows - no sign of it, and while tna adds to challenges viewing figures it would be more of a "fit" with skys pick channel if they wanted it on freeview......
Challenge are so lame at times. Watching Impact now and the thingy scrolling across the bottom of the screen is reminding us WrestleTalk TV has a Rowdy RUDDY Piper special tonight!!!
Who's Ruddy Piper?
Who's Ruddy Piper?
the show is painful.
the "take over" story is not coming over as smooth but lumpy. the writing out of the wrestlers that have resigned laboured...
they have begun to "sell" a traditional ppv but they have absolutely no "build" to it. it looks like it will be last minute random matches
the "take over" story is not coming over as smooth but lumpy. the writing out of the wrestlers that have resigned laboured...
they have begun to "sell" a traditional ppv but they have absolutely no "build" to it. it looks like it will be last minute random matches
Originally Posted by HaloJoe:
“Challenge are so lame at times. Watching Impact now and the thingy scrolling across the bottom of the screen is reminding us WrestleTalk TV has a Rowdy RUDDY Piper special tonight!!!
Who's Ruddy Piper?”
“Challenge are so lame at times. Watching Impact now and the thingy scrolling across the bottom of the screen is reminding us WrestleTalk TV has a Rowdy RUDDY Piper special tonight!!!
Who's Ruddy Piper?”
Rowdy with a suntan?
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Hopefully Challenge wont lose a wrestling slot on a sunday night.”
“Hopefully Challenge wont lose a wrestling slot on a sunday night.”
I'm not convinced they'd view Impact as a big enough loss at this point to chase down another company to air. However, if they were to go shopping for an Impact replacement I would suggest New Japan is where they should go looking.
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