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It is sad news though they appear to think the money they make from international is enough to keep them going without domestic. I don't see how personally but maybe they can. It may be worth sticking it online for a small charge.
I think the bigger news is that Jarrett is out which (IMO) rules out Jarrett buying the company which is odd. TBH though, I think it has now ceased to be a relevant player in any way. A shame. As you know, I think it's had periods of being pretty good. |
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TBH I think Panda/Bob just lets her do that or he'll have to find her a job at Panda and he knows how useless she is and doesn't trust her.
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TBH I think Panda/Bob just lets her do that or he'll have to find her a job at Panda and he knows how useless she is and doesn't trust her.
Everyone always has an opinion of what Dixie Carter should and shouldn't do yet pretty much all these people sit at homes or at the very most work a 9-5 job. They couldn't run a bath let alone run a business but of course.......silly me.......this is the rasslin business isn't it! Ah well then. Not exactly a fanbase worth trusting. If they told me it was raining outside i'd look out the window to double check. |
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TBH I think Panda/Bob just lets her do that or he'll have to find her a job at Panda and he knows how useless she is and doesn't trust her.
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Again James, maybe i missed something but how do you know this? Do you own your own business? Cause if you don't, i don't see how you are in any position to make that comment or know any of that. I think i said the same thing some time ago also.
Everyone always has an opinion of what Dixie Carter should and shouldn't do yet pretty much all these people sit at homes or at the very most work a 9-5 job. They couldn't run a bath let alone run a business but of course.......silly me.......this is the rasslin business isn't it! Ah well then. Not exactly a fanbase worth trusting. If they told me it was raining outside i'd look out the window to double check. |
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Again James, maybe i missed something but how do you know this? Do you own your own business? Cause if you don't, i don't see how you are in any position to make that comment or know any of that. I think i said the same thing some time ago also.
Everyone always has an opinion of what Dixie Carter should and shouldn't do yet pretty much all these people sit at homes or at the very most work a 9-5 job. They couldn't run a bath let alone run a business but of course.......silly me.......this is the rasslin business isn't it! Ah well then. Not exactly a fanbase worth trusting. If they told me it was raining outside i'd look out the window to double check. Quote:
Hypocrite.
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My hunch (and it is just a hunch!) is that Panda wont actually let TNA go completely bust, no matter what. It may end up operating out of a garden shed, but it's Dixie's baby & Bob isn't going to let it die.
TBH though, I think it has now ceased to be a relevant player in any way. A shame. As you know, I think it's had periods of being pretty good. It is a shame, and I've said before my frustration with the position TNA is in is that I witnessed it when it was great and am annoyed at the shell it has become. Just as an aside, not related to your post, I know people want to claim I want to see TNA die, I don't actively want it to die. I'm just past caring now. I care for the employees, not the company. If people actually think I'm sitting here waiting for the day it dies, they are mistaken. But I don't think Dixie deserves it to succeed. I'm not going to defend my position on TNA anymore. I think I've done it enough now. |
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I don't think Bob and Janice will let it go bust but I don't think it will remain under their ownership for much longer either. I don't think they will keep pumping money into a dead end which TNA probably is now. They can't possibly cut any more from the TNA budget. It's like a pet with terminal illness, it's kinder to let it go.
It is a shame, and I've said before my frustration with the position TNA is in is that I witnessed it when it was great and am annoyed at the shell it has become. Just as an aside, not related to your post, I know people want to claim I want to see TNA die, I don't actively want it to die. I'm just past caring now. I care for the employees, not the company. If people actually think I'm sitting here waiting for the day it dies, they are mistaken. But I don't think Dixie deserves it to succeed. I'm not going to defend my position on TNA anymore. I think I've done it enough now. One poster said they wanted that, not you.TBH I now share your view of being a little past caring. Aries leaving was a big downer for me. Out of those left now I only really rate Lashley & Roode. EDIT: oh, and Spud
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I never thought you wanted it to die!
One poster said they wanted that, not you.TBH I now share your view of being a little past caring. Aries leaving was a big downer for me. Out of those left now I only really rate Lashley & Roode. EDIT: oh, and Spud ![]() And her comments about getting criticism for having ex-WWE stars come in annoyed me too. For me, it's not that ex-WWE stars came in, it's that ex-WWE stars came in and decimated a roster of originals. And this is half of the problem, TNA doesn't have any big names to draw viewers in because the likes of AJ Styles and Samoa Joe were treated like crap for no reason at all. The two big names they have got in Angle and Jeff Hardy have tried to begin negotiations with WWE (Angle) or have publicly stated they want their final run to be with WWE (Hardy, and that's looking more likely now). The potential was there, and we know we disagree a bit here, they tried to grasp that potential and they failed IMO. Their failure is, in my opinion, on them for the most part. I actually wish WWE would come in and offer them an hour a week on the network (and I've said before WWE should look for other promotions to come onto the network) for say $30k a week just to give them one final chance at pulling something out of the bag, one final attempt to fill in the cracks of the foundations. I know it's not going to happen but, on the increasingly likely situation that they won't have a TV deal come January, we can all say they were given every opportunity. |
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Add Germany and Austria to the countries where TNA has been dropped by their network.
They're in deep shit, to say the least. |
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So TNA have gone from having a "multi year deal" with Destination America to only being contracted until the end of December?
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Add Germany and Austria to the countries where TNA has been dropped by their network.
They're in deep shit, to say the least. |
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Again James, maybe i missed something but how do you know this? Do you own your own business? Cause if you don't, i don't see how you are in any position to make that comment or know any of that. I think i said the same thing some time ago also.
Everyone always has an opinion of what Dixie Carter should and shouldn't do yet pretty much all these people sit at homes or at the very most work a 9-5 job. They couldn't run a bath let alone run a business but of course.......silly me.......this is the rasslin business isn't it! Ah well then. Not exactly a fanbase worth trusting. If they told me it was raining outside i'd look out the window to double check. |
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Excitement building at the York, PA Fair right now- http://imgur.com/Wc136sR
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The Wrestling Observer boarder at the York Fair TNA show says everybody around him got comps, no one he's spoken to appears to have paid to get in. I would have thought the racing pigs would have been more of a draw. http://i.imgur.com/YvBGPDi.jpg
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The Wrestling Observer boarder at the York Fair TNA show says everybody around him got comps, no one he's spoken to appears to have paid to get in. I would have thought the racing pigs would have been more of a draw. http://i.imgur.com/YvBGPDi.jpg
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What do you want? This is reality.
Non-WWE wrestling is not a draw. Are you happy about it? |
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In the interest of fairness, that picture could have been taken in an interval
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ROH and other places get a paying crowed
Anyway, comparing TNA's viewership & attendance to ROH's is pointless. They're both, sadly, insignificant promotions going nowhere, scraping by. |
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ROH, by figures I've seen online, aren't doing too badly for their size. The figures I'm posting are between January and August of the respective years. Total attendance in those months, the number of events in those months and the average attendance.
2013 - 15,000 [24] (Avg: 632) 2014 - 18,900 [21] (Avg: 900) 2015 - 29,100 [29] (Avg: 1003) |
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ROH, by figures I've seen online, aren't doing too badly for their size. The figures I'm posting are between January and August of the respective years. Total attendance in those months, the number of events in those months and the average attendance.
2013 - 15,000 [24] (Avg: 632) 2014 - 18,900 [21] (Avg: 900) 2015 - 29,100 [29] (Avg: 1003) The problem with TNA now is that it feels like a dead end. But once, it had ambition, and that was exciting. ROH to me has *always* felt like a dead end! Content to be a little promotion. Which is fair enough of course, but it doesn't excite me.
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But are they going anywhere? Are those numbers going to get any bigger? Does the company have any ambition to grow?
The problem with TNA now is that it feels like a dead end. But once, it had ambition, and that was exciting. ROH to me has *always* felt like a dead end! Content to be a little promotion. Which is fair enough of course, but it doesn't excite me. |
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Saying that ROH is going nowhere is just untrue and seems like a round about way to justify TNA failure under the 'non-WWE wrestling doesn't draw' banner. They have growing attendances, WWE deem them enough of a threat to be going after them with NXT and they've announced a strengthened working relationship with NJPW which includes their first tour of Japan in a decade. Not bad for a go nowhere promotion.
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Content to be a little promotion. Which is fair enough of course, but it doesn't excite me.