Presumably MEM will only run until October anyway when A&E will be defeated.

I mean, surely they're not going to turn A&E into another nWo...right? And constantly rehash it until the company dies?

I'm pretty sure Bischoff spoke before about having year long story arcs instead of the previous mish-mash under Russo. So it would make sense for it to end (or start to end) at Bound for Glory...

The nWo rehashes didn't kill WCW, poor management and Russo booking killed WCW, A&8 have had their day now, it hasn't taken off at all.

Knew he was going to be the next MEM member, could see it a mile off, adn had a feeling that gut checker wouldn't get a contract, what with them firing just about them all who've been given them, may have been the last one of them, as no point doing the gut checks now.

Was there any real point to the gut checks in the first place? They were all jobbers anyway.

The idea of Gutcheck is a decent one. Bring in fresh unseen guys, showcase them to a new audience and try to find guys that can connect with the audience.

Sadly, it was established from the start that many of these guys weren't TV ready and needed to go to Developmental to get ready. So you had guys getting contracts and then disappearing, so fans were taught not to care as you won't see these guys again.

IMO they probably should have used the gutcheck format as a fake way to introduce signed talent that were already TV ready from ROH, New Japan etc.

The problem is: now that it's well established that TNA doesn't treat their employees that greatly (ask Zema Ion) and seeing what WWE is doing with THEIR developmental territory, why should anyone sign with TNA? Furthermore, speaking of ROH, i wouldn't be shocked to find out in the future that WWE has a sort of option, unofficial or not, to people coming out of there.

By going to TNA, you're more than likely to get a chance on TV than in WWE, which has near 100 guys in developmental, with only a handful of guys being brought up each year.

As for ROH, WWE could do, but it would be down to solely being nice. Any guy WWE want they can get. Just wait for the guys contract to expire.

You do realize that by going on NXT they're already on tv, right? They're not on tv in the US, but they're on tv worldwide with an exposure probably bigger than the one TNA gets.

As soon as they had judges, and ones that kept changing as well, it was always likely to fail as a concept, as you knew that it was more about them than the actual talent on show.

The vignettes of the people were all well and good, but did they really add anything? Not really.

This whole idea was just padding out the show really, if one or two had say, made a deal with A&8's, and kind of sidestepped the judges, that would have made for more interesting storylines.

But just keeping the same thing week after week, with no-one looking like being a star (unlike say with NXT who have had a few break out stars), just undermines the whole thing really for me.

If one or two had got some really momentum (it doesn't have be Goldberg like 165 matches or whatever the figure was), and were really pushed, then that also would be better than having the same sort of matches, featuring the same sort of face each week.

The concept was a good one, it was just played out badly, that was all.

The biggest mess they made with GutCheck was Christian York. The guy was awesome in the ring, but crappy on the mic, they should have put him with a great talker ASAP and then let him build momentum, instead he took a couple of decent scalps, had a couple of great matches, jobbed, then got cut... such a waste.

Actually WCW was mess in 1998 when they had great roster and could not do anything with them.That the reason people like Y2J left and everybody got bored of Hulk Hogan and the NwO too sweet and wolfpac angle.Plus the gave the big match away for free on Nitro and Thunder and nobody was watching the shows,around that time everyone was talk about RAW and WWE.Plus no one could promote wrestling the way Vince did and eric was just a carbon copy.Plus he let of nobody's like Kevin Nash run the show backstage and tell people what to do.Just ask everybody who worked WCW and they they will tell you the same thing like Sunny,What was it like in WCW when you was there.

I hated it nobody got along it was not worth shit and that why WCW died.

lol let's not go nuts here.

The vast, vast majority of WWE's fans have never heard of NXT and certainly couldn't tell you anyone who is in it. Let's be honest, no matter how entertaining it may be, it is simply a glorified developmental camp which is recorded and broadcast in a very limited capacity.

If AJ Styles showed up in WWE tomorrow he'd get a bigger reaction than Leo Kruger or Bo Dallas would.

TNA may be small-time compared to WWE, but to suggest that NXT is a bigger brand with larger exposure than it is just silliness.

I didn't say that, I said they have a bigger exposure, which is a fact (they're in WAY more countries TNA is). That obviously doesn't translate necessarily in a bigger reaction from the fans, but they're seen in more houses TNA is WORLDWIDE.

In the end it comes down to money: it's better to go to TNA for 250$ a shot and, if you get injured, you're screwed or go to WWE, getting paid your downside guarantee plus appearances, getting taken care if you get injured and be on a show that it's proving for a good number of guys to be a good start for a WWE career?

Both systems have pluses and minuses.

WWE have roughly 100 guys in Developmental. Of that about 20 to 25 max actually get air time on NXT and of that 20-25 guys about 10 guys are going to get called up in a given year.

Going to TNA makes more sense if you want to get instant exposure on a higher level. NXT is available in more than 60 countries and is probably one of WWE's lower priority shows. TNA Impact is in more than 100 countries and is their no.1 show.

http://corporate.wwe.com/company/events.jsp

http://www.impactwrestling.com/news/...cast-Schedules

The injury issue is something to take into account between TNA and WWE. I'm sure a lot of guys will be swayed by the medical cover in WWE, but a lot of indy guys are used to minimal health cover, so might be willing to move to TNA for the instant main show slot rather than having to hope you can work your way through the WWE system.

If you go check the TNA's site there's no way they're in more than 100 countries. Even counting Asia, Middle East and Africa. Their penetration in Europe is awful, for instance, they're in SIX nations. As far as the WWE system is concerned, if you're not good for WWE what makes you think you're gonna be a star in TNA? And, if possible, the situation now is even stricter for TNA considering they're bringing very few talents to the tapings to cut costs and the Gut Check has been a miserable failure.

I thought I would just post what each company is claiming. It could be truthful or it could be rubbish. Regardless, I think it's unlikely NXT is watched in massive numbers. It's pretty far down the pecking order of WWE TV shows and TNA's main show is allegedly in roughly 40 more countries if they're telling the truth.

I never said WWE castoffs should be TNA talent. I'm saying that should WWE and TNA make a play for a indy talent hypothetically, its not a foregoing conclusion to go to WWE as its pretty tough to get through their system and get on the main roster, whereas in TNA its much easier to get on Impact.

This does appear to be a moot point atm anyway, as it does appear that TNA's finances are tight and they're not actively recruiting, when they should be bringing in fresh new talent and moving on old WWE stars.

Absolutely, but as long as the "powers that be" have that mindset it's highly unlikely, sadly. But i disagree about the point that it's easier to emerge in TNA than in WWE, especially now. TNA has 2 hours now of tv, 3 if we count xplosion which only has 1 match though. WWE now has 6 + NXT. With all budget cuts considered I think you have a better chance to get on tv in WWE's "Universe" than in TNA's. Granted, it may be Superstars instead of Impact, but it's still easier.

The truth is that TNA don't need a developmental. They are simply too small. OVW is a drain on money and resources; they'd be much, much better recruiting from the indies and training people up in dark matches etc.

I'm talking about about guys coming from the indies. Not about whether it's easier to get over in TNA rather than WWE in general.

Matt Morgan has parted ways with TNA.

Felt like they were building to something big with him and then just stopped dead.

His latest storyline, just seemed like they were shoehorning him in, just for the sake it, which didn't really do him any favours really.

That's a shame. He was a decent in-ring worker but his strength was in his look and how he handled himself on the mic; he could have easily been TNA's Mark Henry.

Do not be surprised if he goes back to WWE.

Never nice when someone loses their career, but if he asked for it then fair enough for him. Thought he was awkward in the ring and not brill as a t-t-t talker.

Woohoo !!

I can finally start watching TNA again