I agree, and I foresee the Hardys leaving as I've been reading rumblings about them going back to WWE too plus I have read WWE are more open to taking TNA stars now, I could see WWE making a move for Roode one day.

I think we're seeing the dying days of TNA at the moment.. which is sad..

its not that sad that TNA are dying, its sad that a competitor are dying

tna itself has been terrible since they gave up on monday night move so quickly, wella ctually it was alright unde rbisch and hogan for a while,joker sting was cool. but yeh the impact wrestling branded era has been pathetic from start to finish

lets hope someone else can step up the mantle. GFW looks like tna all over again, jarret is only good on and off screen when russo with him

In hindsight they probably should have chosen a better name!

TNA sounds a bit gimmicky from the start - even more so than ECW, which went as far as it could until Vince McMahon stole the concept and made it more marketable. All other major Wrestling feds went national off the illustration of being pseudo classy organisations (WCW, AWA,WCCW, UWF, CWA). Didn't help that TNA was established at the same time WWF changed to WWE.

I know I'm being pedantic and they had way bigger issues, but in terms of image it all matters.

So does that pretty much confirm Challenge is ditching TNA?

Im all for Brit wrestling but its changed so much since the 1980s that is been americanised so we wont get 3 minute rounds anymore. Problem is everywhere in the UK there are local wrestling shows about so its not like we need a televised Brit show.

WAW (What Paige's parents own) does 3 min rounds and 2 falls

The monday night move was scrapped too fast. When the initial one debuted where they were promoting the NWO reuniting going against the return of the Hitman I felt the TNA show had far more appeal than just Bret Hart coming back.

Sadly TNA did lack alot of star quality matches.

What I absolutely hated about that was they'd spent a year building AJ as the face of the company, only for him to turn heel out of the blue. That wasn't too bad I guess, but who bought the quiet conservative family man as a arrogant and flamoyant playboy?

Jay Lethal and Eric Young being squashed by obese versions of Jim Neidhart and Nasty Boys was another lowpoint.

The concept of Sting being the heel but was the face in reality was really good. The build up to Bound for Glory 2010 was fun, although they'd ran so many heel turns that Jeff Hardy's turn didn't have as much effect as it should have. Sting having to beat RVD with a baseball bat for an eternity (Hogan miscue) was bad. Hogan/Flair in the main event in 2010 was ill advised.

yup, fact is it pushed to raw to put on a monumental show,thats the benefit of competition

wwe probably wouldnt have done that every week so tna really gave in so easily

TNA was awesome when it pushed the X division, 6 sided ring and ultimate X matches. The moment they changed to a normal ring, pushed the wwe rejects, was when it all changed.

AJ, Daniels, Amazing Red, Sabin, Petey, Skipper, Low Ki even shark boy were enjoyable to watch, they built on the X division to bring out tag teams such as Team Canada, LAX, MCMG and had probably the greatest division for women. Sad to see it die out.

It was scrapped quickly because they were getting hammered by WWE. A portion of TNA's audience were WWE fans who were always going to prioritise Raw over Impact. It wasnt the same as Raw and Nitro, where both had large separate audiences.

Bret being on Raw was a bigger deal than NWO in 2010, especially given the story behind Bret and WWE. Aleo the NWO were way past their sellby date.

Impact was horrible as well which didn't help matters.

impact was great back then with rvd becoming champ and all that. the normal ring was awesome.

It was awful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH1xm2fOXD4

er no it wasnt

6 sides is not for real wrestling fans in my book

I agree with you regarding the 6 sided ring.

I like the six sided ring. Although I've read it was hard on the talent. Visually I loved the appearance of TNA Impact and the Impact Zone between 2004 and 2010.

I don't know why I'm talking like TNA is officially dead. You just know Panda Energy/Dixie will keep it going, even if it comes to taping 25 weeks of TV in a gym in Nashville and using unpaid talent from the local area.

I preferred it just because they dared to be different

I don't think the idea of a 6 sided ring is bad Japan has used them to.

But as stated the wrestlers don't like them as they hurt and cause more injuries than a normal ring.

TNA is like watching your parents with demetia and i dont mean to offend anyone with that but the company for the last 4 -5 years has being on a downword spiral with the "reboots" happening all to often, the wrestlers who help make TNA being let go as they can earn more money else were and tna cant afford to pay talents ontime.

The biggest regret tna have is that dixie carte was not removed and paul heyman was not given the control of the company. I know its a load of what ifs but dixie is the one who has basically killed TNA. Now wrestling fans will have to wait at least 10 years before another company comes along and captures the ball and runs with it.

They did kinda push RVD way too quick to the World title than they should have. RVD vs Styles is like a dream match given how quick and high paced they were and really they should have saved this for a major PPV instead of a free match on Impact.

Isn't TNA nice allowing current NXT wrestler James Storm in the TNA Title Tordy.

The fact nobody can agree on which parts of TNA were good and which were bad kind of proves that none of it was *that* bad. But also, it's fair to say that very little of it was that good either. Certainly not good enough to overturn the huge advantages of money and brand recognition WWE had.

I maintain there are good stretches where, production values aside, Impact was certainly no less entertaining than RAW. But, production values *do* matter to most people, so there we go.

And TNA at the moment is just depressing, sadly.

because heyman has a great track record of running small wrestling promotions...

I'd say he has a greater track record to running the creative side of a business than Dixie has shown. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trust him to pay me at the end of the month but then I wouldn't really trust Dixie too either

I think to some extent you can say that about any wrestling promotion. It's such a subjective industry, there will always be people that consider stuff to be awful where other people will view that same segment as great.

Take the Attitude Era. Some think it was the best period ever for wrestling. There are a lot of people that wouldn't even consider it wrestling it's that different to what wrestling traditionally was for decades before those 3-4 years. This is why I have no problem with McMahon not liking the term 'wrestling' because it isn't wrestling as wrestling was. What WWE and TNA do is sports entertainment. People may not like the term but I think it fits the product better when you compare the product to the pre-Attitude Era product.

As for production values, it's only shortly before the move from Spike the production values became really bad. For the most part, whilst unable to compete with WWE in that area, were never that bad. If you view TNA as a standalone company, their production values are quite good, it's only when you try and compare to WWE they were bad. Now however they are frigging awful.

I remember watching an episode and they went from a match to a recap to a backstage segment to another recap to a match with nothing to link all of them together at all. No commentary, no graphic, just from one scene to the next.

Meanwhile TNA announced its big tour of India.

The big news is that they are NOT gonna be taping Impact there. They will do 2 house shows and a One Night Only pay-per-view that will air live in India on Sony Six and on tape delay on the same day all over the world.

The other big news is that none other than THE GREAT KHALI is gonna help John Gaburick in his research for the next big indian star.

So...we're stuck with this world title tournament until february, I guess.