Heyman would pay you out of his own pocket if he had to though.

Dixie is a millionaire but wouldn't dream of spending her personal money.

you know them both personally do ya?

Whilst I don't know about the Heyman thing, it's pretty obvious Dixie wouldn't due to the fact she didn't. And not only her, but the billion dollar corporation that owns TNA didnt.

i dont think many good business owners are in the business of giving people money out of their own savings.

and im not trying to say dixie is a good owner btw, just find it funny how wrestling fans jump to conclusions based on who they love and dont.

No but the billion dollar corporation that owns TNA could very easily have sorted out TNA's wage situation in minutes. The fact they didn't speaks volumes.

tna have lasted longer than ecw so maybe heyman should ask dixie to teach him a thing or two?

I think the fact they are surviving on tapings from July with absolutely no new tapings announced despite being on air for another 6 weeks shows Dixie shouldn't really be giving out any lessons on how to run a company lol. She's hardly the head of a thriving organisations, it's on life support.

lol thats true...shows how bad heyman was really!

Which to be fair, was my original point. I wouldn't trust either of them with my money but I'd trust Heyman to run my creative team over Dixie. But then I wouldn't trust Dixie to run me a bath.

That said, when you consider impact on the industry, Heyman and ECW make Dixe and TNA look like a backyard wrestling company. I think TNA will struggle to be remembered in the same way ECW is 14 years after its dead.

well ecw was part of the boom period and help from wwf and wcw in that sense. cant give heyman all credit for that

and of course i agree that heyman more creative than dixie, just chcukle at people saying he should have ran tna lol

heyman ,russo,bischoff, dont matter who, dixie should have put them and left them in charge. impact wrestling has been absolutely terrible

I have read that Heyman did pay out of his own pocket even if he had to sell something from his house.

I don't give Heyman all the credit, he doesn't deserve it. But I'm just making a wider point that's whilst ECW dies quicker than TNA has, it will also be remembered for far longer than TNA will.

But if you agree Heyman is more creative than Dixie, why would it make you chuckle that people think they should have given him the book? Heyman didn't want to own the company, he wanted full creative control.

**This is not an argument, or myself attempting to start one, just for clarity**

i read it as he should run the company,not just be head booker

Heyman himself has said he wanted a slice of the company, that's true, but he wanted the book to focus TNA as a youth orientated, true alternative to WWE. Spike signed off on his vision, the Carter family signed off on his salary demands, even agreed he could take a slice of the company but didn't want to go youth-orientated. Heyman took this to mean they had no desire to be alternative and walked away from it.

No doubt he would want a say in things, I'm not sure how you can book a show without having your fingers in all the departments, but TNA had a real shot at becoming an alternative under Heyman.

and under russo

and even under bisch and hogan

but they only ever wanted to be a glorified indy it seems, they got blinded by the this is awesome chants

Bram has had charges dropped against him. Florida's State Attorney's Office declined to prosecute him. Despite pleading not guilty, he admitted grabbing her by the throat and refusing to let her leave the room.

TNA have now announced that Bram has been reinstated. Apparently the company 'hold all of their talent to a high standard and take all legal charges against them seriously."

So apparently if you work for TNA and assault your girlfriend, that's fine as long as you don't get caught. Good to know.

It should be pointed out that TNA really didn't push WWE to put on a monumental show. The Bret Hart return had been in the works for years by the time it actually came together. At best WWE maybe brought Hart's TV return slightly forward but that return (and the angle with McMahon for Mania) was always going to happen.


I'm not going to engage on the Russo point but the Hogan/Bischoff thing is crazy. Anyone watching the show during their tenure who thought they were capable of crafting an actual alternative to the WWE product is insane. During the Hogan/Bischoff regime TNA became even more WWE-like than usual. It doesn't help that pretty much everyone who's been in charge of TNA creative has been obsessed with reviving/reliving their 90s booking. That's not how you craft an alternative.

i didnt mind sunday's TNA on a production basis....

the inserted interviews to matches are welcome - and look very wwf/wcw from the early 90s..
the attempt to make the matches relevant with the wrestler interviews before and after work
and the pope and the fool standing up in a "new set" looks better than the box room they had before

BUT - number 1 rule about wrestling shows was summed up by Eric Bishoff in that you have to suspend belief and having people in the tournament who are known not to work for the tna makes that impossible... i would "believe" more in an out of push bo dalls not about to be squashed in any match he was put in on raw than the tna tournament matches!

I still dont see why they couldnt have just let Matt keep the belt and lead up to a rematch on Impact.

hes no superfly jimmy snuka to be fair

Because he wouldn't be champion on the episodes of Impact because they were filmed in July. There's no way, well they could have actually done the smart thing and taped the BFG aftermath AFTER BFG, with the TNA tapings they have Hardy could have continued as champion.

To be fair Snuka is still alleged. If he admitted what he's accused of I'd expect WWE to release him from his contract, the same as I expect TNA to have done the same thing to Bram when he admitted what he did.

wwe would have been well aware of abuse and drug use in the past and did nothing ,just because they sorting themselves out now dont make them perfect. no different to tna back in the day

also are you saying you never want bran to be employed again?

Or just had EC3 retain it.

Then do this as a on one contenders tordy.

I must have missed the part where I said WWE were perfect

I'm saying TNA can't say they hold all talent to a high standard of conduct in a statement where they reinstate a man who admitted strangling his girlfriend and keeping her locked in a room. What do you have to do to have your standard of conduct considered low?

I'm holding TNA to the same standard of conduct I'd expect from WWE. If Randy Orton for example was arrested for spousal abuse, I'd expect him to be suspended and if he admitted to doing it released from his contract. Because that doesn't form a high standard of conduct.

My issue is with TNA claiming a high standard of conduct whilst reinstating a man that showed anything but.