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TNA Wrestling on Challenge TV (Part 2)
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jenzie
11-11-2015
yeah
it's the FINALS of the world title tournament!!!!!

only about three weeks BEFORE it ends
idiots
jenzie
11-11-2015
or NOT
apparently it's the TNA classic and not the WTT finals
dave_windows
12-11-2015
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Lord only knows, as none other will be winning the male title.

Heads up for anyone who might be interested, there seems to be a TNA special on Challenge tonight at 10:10pm.”

I bought Chyna winning the IC Title, and a possible contender for the WWF belt in 98/99 time but this Knockouts division is stupid in the tournament.
seibu
13-11-2015
Poor old TNA.

Seriously, go and watch a 2012 Impact. It was a good show. But I really do think it's over for them now.
Hollie_Louise
13-11-2015
Apparently they are saying that there's a chance they get back on Spike next year. In good (well better news than usual) their rumoured possible new home has better availability by a good 20 million so maybe some of those people are former Spike viewers who will return.

The flip side of that is that GFW are also looking to sign to the same network and they will only take one.

Of course, there is every chance they remain on DA past February but given the multi-year contract has been reduced already to just over 12 months it looks unlikely.

For what it's worth also, they are saying touring resumes next year. Whether that's just posturing is obviously impossible to tell until they announce tour dates (and don't cancel them despite telling talent they are selling well)
batdude_uk1
14-11-2015
It is very sad what has happened to TNA, as I used to really like and enjoy the shows, but it is just a horrible mess, with nothing going for it now.

They desperately need a restart on everything, and to get a firm hold on who is classed as their talent and who is not, using nearly a year old footage for a tournament (like the recent TNA Classic special that I posted about) does not help in anyway, neither does using people not under contract to them (as with James Storm).

Until they sort out their business, then Challenge would be better airing practically any other wrestling company that they can get a deal with (be it ROH, or even a British one).
JCR
15-11-2015
Somewhat off topic but ICW are running the 13,000 seat Glasgow Hydro on November 20th 2016.

I do wonder if this hurts TNA in terms of a UK tv deal, as ICW/UK wrestling could well be a more attractive proposition for Challenge than TNA at present.
dave_windows
15-11-2015
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Somewhat off topic but ICW are running the 13,000 seat Glasgow Hydro on November 20th 2016.

I do wonder if this hurts TNA in terms of a UK tv deal, as ICW/UK wrestling could well be a more attractive proposition for Challenge than TNA at present.”

ICW is a bit odd. They had some guy come from the crowd had him get in the ring took a beating got busted open pretty badly and still battered him.

It was pretty shit, walked out after 10 mins of that.
eugenespeed
15-11-2015
Had a few mates up at the SECC tonight.
grazey1985
15-11-2015
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“ICW is a bit odd. They had some guy come from the crowd had him get in the ring took a beating got busted open pretty badly and still battered him.

It was pretty shit, walked out after 10 mins of that.”

Your loss. I find you can't judge icw based on 10 minutes. It's so much more than just violence. What event was that btw?
Funny enough I've been watching for about 3 years and have never seen anything like what you described. The closest was bt Gunn striking a fan who threw beer over him and that only lasted for about 10 seconds.
grazey1985
15-11-2015
Originally Posted by eugenespeed:
“Had a few mates up at the SECC tonight.”

Gutted I missed that. I sprained my ankle on Tuesday and I didn't think I would last about 4 hours standing. Will catch it on icw on demand tomorrow though
batdude_uk1
16-11-2015
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Somewhat off topic but ICW are running the 13,000 seat Glasgow Hydro on November 20th 2016.

I do wonder if this hurts TNA in terms of a UK tv deal, as ICW/UK wrestling could well be a more attractive proposition for Challenge than TNA at present.”

I would love a channel like the old Wrestling Channel that showed the best of British wrestling, if anything it is a far better option now then it was when the channel was on.

There is soi much choice out there from so many different companies, that whomever they showed would be a very good choice.
AlexiR
16-11-2015
The problem with The Wrestling Channel both now and when it existed is one of production values. The actual content they were showing might have been great but all too often it looked awful. I suspect this is one of the problems that ICW would have in a hypothetical deal with Challenge – the product just doesn't look very good. Although I confess I haven't really watched a lot of there more recent stuff. And Challenge certainly won't want to pay enough to really improve the production values.

In truth I don't think Challenge will have a whole lot of interest in staying in the wrestling business post-TNA. I'm not even convinced they'll be interested in keeping TNA around past the current deal (assuming that remains an option) although that will in large part depend on what they're paying for it.
dave_windows
16-11-2015
Originally Posted by grazey1985:
“Your loss. I find you can't judge icw based on 10 minutes. It's so much more than just violence. What event was that btw?
Funny enough I've been watching for about 3 years and have never seen anything like what you described. The closest was bt Gunn striking a fan who threw beer over him and that only lasted for about 10 seconds.”

What was the point though. Some kid gets beat up pretty bad then you have the hooligans who are supposed to be a face and they come out and beat him up? That isnt entertainment, it was shit.
dave_windows
16-11-2015
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“The problem with The Wrestling Channel both now and when it existed is one of production values. The actual content they were showing might have been great but all too often it looked awful. I suspect this is one of the problems that ICW would have in a hypothetical deal with Challenge – the product just doesn't look very good. Although I confess I haven't really watched a lot of there more recent stuff. And Challenge certainly won't want to pay enough to really improve the production values.

In truth I don't think Challenge will have a whole lot of interest in staying in the wrestling business post-TNA. I'm not even convinced they'll be interested in keeping TNA around past the current deal (assuming that remains an option) although that will in large part depend on what they're paying for it.”

Used to love TWC remember their preview content they showed for a month, I think for me why air censored versions of shows for daytime people. Just keep it late night & while it was cool to have Shoot Interviews it wasent cool to advertise part 2 and then not showing part 2 or another shoot no you air part 1 again.
James Frederick
16-11-2015
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“What was the point though. Some kid gets beat up pretty bad then you have the hooligans who are supposed to be a face and they come out and beat him up? That isnt entertainment, it was shit.”

Hooligans are Paige's Brothers.

That does sound like Roy he's even spent time inside for GBH he does have a very short fuse and a attitude problem but if you know him he can be very nice.


Not Zack so much though always found him quite calm.
grazey1985
16-11-2015
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“What was the point though. Some kid gets beat up pretty bad then you have the hooligans who are supposed to be a face and they come out and beat him up? That isnt entertainment, it was shit.”

So that would be at appetite for destruction (hooligans 1st and only icw match was at that event so it would have only have been at that event ). I've seen that event on icw on demand and no fans were struck at that event (they didn't have time to have a break let alone beat up fans due to their van breaking down). It was a tag match that got turned into an 8 person tag and all 6 men and 2 women involved were trained professional wrestlers. It did spill to the outside like a lot of multi person matches but no fans we're involved or injured. What did you think of the other matches on the card (it was the 4th match on the card after all?
batdude_uk1
16-11-2015
I think a more updated Wrestling Channel could work, if they got some of the more high profile promotions on board.
Wrestling has moved on since the channel stopped broadcasting, and so have the production values of the companies around the country from what I have seen (yes some haven't, or have regressed as well), and those should be the ones who get featured; it might also be a kick up the backside to those that have got poor production values, to up their game if they want to be featured on national television.
grazey1985
16-11-2015
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“I think a more updated Wrestling Channel could work, if they got some of the more high profile promotions on board.
Wrestling has moved on since the channel stopped broadcasting, and so have the production values of the companies around the country from what I have seen (yes some haven't, or have regressed as well), and those should be the ones who get featured; it might also be a kick up the backside to those that have got poor production values, to up their game if they want to be featured on national television.”

I could certainly see it being great if they had enough of a variety. There is plenty of uk promotions it could feature and if they pick and choose wisely plenty of variety without it become samey. Add some foreign promotions like lucha underground and some new Japan and a few other promotions it could be great
seibu
17-11-2015
Originally Posted by AlexiR:
“The problem with The Wrestling Channel both now and when it existed is one of production values. The actual content they were showing might have been great but all too often it looked awful. I suspect this is one of the problems that ICW would have in a hypothetical deal with Challenge – the product just doesn't look very good. Although I confess I haven't really watched a lot of there more recent stuff. And Challenge certainly won't want to pay enough to really improve the production values.

In truth I don't think Challenge will have a whole lot of interest in staying in the wrestling business post-TNA. I'm not even convinced they'll be interested in keeping TNA around past the current deal (assuming that remains an option) although that will in large part depend on what they're paying for it.”


When Challenge started showing TNA it must have looked like a bargain. Here was a show with Hogan, Angle, Bischoff, all these guys from the high points of wrestling's popularity in the UK. And sure enough it quickly became their highest rated show.

But like Spike found, all that was unsustainable. The company was floating on Panda money and never close to breaking even with the salaries those guys demanded. Remove the Panda subsidy and you've got today's TNA - the reality of trying to run a non-WWE US wrestling promotion.
dave_windows
18-11-2015
Originally Posted by seibu:
“When Challenge started showing TNA it must have looked like a bargain. Here was a show with Hogan, Angle, Bischoff, all these guys from the high points of wrestling's popularity in the UK. And sure enough it quickly became their highest rated show.

But like Spike found, all that was unsustainable. The company was floating on Panda money and never close to breaking even with the salaries those guys demanded. Remove the Panda subsidy and you've got today's TNA - the reality of trying to run a non-WWE US wrestling promotion.”

It sounded good and probably could have been if we had gotten a ne roster instead of the same guys.
seibu
19-11-2015
TNA have signed to POP TV.

Great news The un-killable promotion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgNo0T5ujT0
DejaVoodoo
19-11-2015
The old TV guide channel. Paragon Pro Wrestling were on it before, but are moving on 25th November.

Hope they're not paying for the slot.
ags_rule
19-11-2015
Originally Posted by DejaVoodoo:
“The old TV guide channel. Paragon Pro Wrestling were on it before, but are moving on 25th November.

Hope they're not paying for the slot.”

Apparently in twice as many homes as Destination America and, generally speaking, a more popular channel (excuse the pun).

A good move for TNA. Haven't watched an episode in ages, but got to give Dixie credit, she somehow has managed to keep the train rolling and actually walked out with a better TV deal than the one she went in with.
JasonWatkins
19-11-2015
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“A good move for TNA. Haven't watched an episode in ages, but got to give Dixie credit, she somehow has managed to keep the train rolling and actually walked out with a better TV deal than the one she went in with.”

Well put. The POP channel appears to be a basic cable channel so it'll be available as part of most people's standard cable package which gives them huge scope for more exposure.

I'm pleased they've managed to stay afloat and keep going - hopefully they won't screw it up and they'll take advantage of the potential to increase their viewer base.
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