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Matt Morgan is nothing special. It wouldn't surprise me if WWE take him back. A big guy is always worth a go in Vince's mind.
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Just come back onto the forum today as I haven't been around here for a long long time.
Not read back through all the older posts as it would take me forever but I'll jump on from here. I'm a bit concerned at all the sudden cuts TNA are doing to be honest. I love all kinds of wrestling so have no favour to any, but TNA is worrying me with things like this recently. Hopefully it won't be anything too major. What I am wondering though, is there a replay of Hardcore Justice 2 that aired last night on Challenge? I didn't record it, searched for TNA but couldn't see any sign of a replay. I thought there would be at least one?! |
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bugger .. i forgot it was on last night .. wanted to watch the ladder match .. i shall have to also look for a replay Quote:
I thought there would be at least one?!
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Ah that's a downer. I could have sworn at some stage they replayed the PPV shows once.
I do actually have it around on other means but I have all the other recent TNA PPV shows on my V+ box so I wanted to add that in aswell if possible. |
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It's strange that they can't find time for at least one replay since the entire content of the channel (apart from TNA) consists of old game shows.
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Don't bother watching hardcore justice 2, total waste of time, the thing worth watching was the ladder match with Generation Me and The Bad Influence which was awesome! The rest was utter crap and not even very hardcore.
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Don't bother watching hardcore justice 2, total waste of time, the thing worth watching was the ladder match with Generation Me and The Bad Influence which was awesome! The rest was utter crap and not even very hardcore.
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Are these One Night Only specials only for this year, or will there be more in 2014?
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Are these One Night Only specials only for this year, or will there be more in 2014?
Any other crowd would have gone utterly mental at the spot in the ladder match where one of the bucks gets pushed off the ladder, lands on the top rope and turns it into a shooting star press to the floor. It even left me open mouthed and I don't really watch wrestling any more !
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Hardcore Justice 2 was atrociously bad, which is a shame, because it sounded like one of the better ones. Seems as though Dixie has copied WWE and has banned excessive weapon usage, particularly to the head. BORING.
Having said that, the ladder match was TNA's best high-flying contest in years. That spot from the ladder to the rope to the outside
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Seems as though Dixie has copied WWE and has banned excessive weapon usage, particularly to the head. BORING.
Seriously, allowing unprotected shots to the head would be beyond ****ing stupid for TNA at this point, given they had no choice but to settle out of court with Daffney. It'd be inviting more people to sue them. Even Dixie's no that daft. Be funny if TNA lost a case on independent contractor status mind. Just to hear about Vince McMahon's reaction when he gets told TNA lost a lawsuit and now every wrestler needs to get 6 weeks paid holiday a year. ![]()
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Hardcore Justice 2 was atrociously bad, which is a shame, because it sounded like one of the better ones. Seems as though Dixie has copied WWE and has banned excessive weapon usage, particularly to the head. BORING.
Having said that, the ladder match was TNA's best high-flying contest in years. That spot from the ladder to the rope to the outside ![]() |
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Come on Ags, chairshots to the head. Anything to the head, blading is something that is not needed anymore. Think if you were a wrestler, would you want to be doing that?
There is absolutely no reason for a blanket ban. Anybody who thinks there is a need for that has simply jumped on to the Vinnie Mac marketing machine. Don't even be an idiot and mention Benoit, whose brain damage was almost certainly due to jumping six feet from the turnbuckle every match in order to headbutt his opponent. Believe it or not there is a technique to chairshots to the head, and heck I even remember them teaching the students how to give and take them on the first season of Tough Enough. They just need to be used sporadically, delivered properly and make sure the wrestlers are checked out for concussions afterwards. It's not rocket science, and even after all these years a chairshot to the head is still one of the best spots in wrestling. It is an absolute crying shame that it is being slowly eroded and no wonder the business is in the state it's in because of the pussification of the product. |
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Anyone who got legitimately hurt with a chairshot would sue. This is the point. An unnamed Gut Check competitor apparently launched legal action against them this week. Every lawsuit is a step closer to wrestlers being ruled employees not independent contractors. And at that point both companies be screwed. Quote:
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I have been in contact with a pro wrestler who has filed a discrimination complaint against TNA with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). The EEOC monitors cases of all types of discrimination in the workplace.
This wrestler was a former TNA Gut Check participant, who is unwilling at this point to reveal his identity. What can be shared at this time is that the charges were filed in April of this year, and the EEOC felt there was a case and moved forward. They then contacted TNA to advise them of the charges, and get a response, which to date they have not received, despite several requests for a response from the agency. When a worker files a complaint, the EEOC notifies the employer and asks it for a “statement of position,” in which it offers its side of the story. The EEOC follows up with a formal request for the employer to supply documents and other information relevant to the case, such as copies of company human resources policies and personnel files. EEOC staff may also visit the workplace, something that the agency itself acknowledges can be disruptive to company operations. While on site, the staff may ask the employer to make employees available for interviews. The employer can say no, but the EEOC can still contact them away from work — without the employer’s knowledge or permission. An employer may be able to avoid a formal EEOC investigation by agreeing to try to resolve the matter through mediation or by settling the complaint. If the employer declines to mediate, or if the EEOC concludes that the case is too serious for mediation, the EEOC may sue the employer. Even if the EEOC decides not to sue — or take any action — the employees who filed the complaint reserve the right to sue. It is possible that TNA may be deliberately delaying their response to the EEOC in light of the current financial state of affairs, which is being reported on many pro wrestling websites of late. Several TNA wrestlers have been receiving their pay late. PWInsider.com is reporting that the blame is being put on Panda Energy, TNA’s parent company. They are stating that the movement from their side appears to be “slow.” Their source that claimed to be six weeks behind was “being ridiculous” and the issues have been resolved since the initial report. Some of the third party vendors are behind in getting paid as well, and one unnamed wrestler said that he heard that some workers checks were up to four weeks late, despite statements from TNA to the contrary. Recently, in a move necessitated by ongoing budget cuts within the promotion, TNA released Crimson, Joey Ryan, Christian York, and Taeler Hendrix. With none of the four being featured prominently on television on a weekly basis, all were deemed expendable. |
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These spots should be written into contracts like "I agree to take head shots" "I don't agree to take head shots", that way no one can claim as they've agreed to it.
Hardcore stuff was fun back in late 90's but was over used, less is always more imo. |
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These spots should be written into contracts like "I agree to take head shots" "I don't agree to take head shots", that way no one can claim as they've agreed to it.
Hardcore stuff was fun back in late 90's but was over used, less is always more imo. |
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The problem with that idea is that many younger, lesser known wrestlers will invariably agree to chairshots and other 'risky' moves if they think it'll get them over and move them up the card - health and safety won't come in to it.
And hell, if it comes to it, USE GIMMICKED CHAIRS. Every federation has used gimmicked tables since they first came into being and nobody gives a shit, it's still an awesome spot. |
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All they really need to do is get up their hands. The problem is not the chair shot, is the UNPROTECTED chair shot. And doing concussion checks is not gonna help, it's not like 3 chairshots don't hurt and 5 do. A violent chair shot can damage your brain, just don't do chair shots unprotected. It's stupid. Another problem is that the chair shot means shit now in the match. Therefore doing it when it has no purpose...what's the point? It's a spot that hurts and it has no meaning. If you have to do it 1) raise your hands so the head is not the part being hit and 2) make it mean something.
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Only thing i liked about Hardcore Justice 2, was the crowd chanting holy fish!
, it was utter crap, what a disappointment.
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Nope - no replay. Have to obtain it by "other means" if you want to watch it.
http://www.impactwrestling.com/news/...core-Justice-2 |
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Only thing i liked about Hardcore Justice 2, was the crowd chanting holy fish!
, it was utter crap, what a disappointment. |
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How about that Knockouts' ladder match last night? That looked like it really hurt in quite a few places!
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'Other means' are not necessary, as TNA have upped it onto Youtube.
http://www.impactwrestling.com/news/...core-Justice-2 |
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How about that Knockouts' ladder match last night? That looked like it really hurt in quite a few places!
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I think the Knockouts are the one indisputable area in which TNA outperforms WWE.
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, it was utter crap, what a disappointment.