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TNA Wrestling on Challenge TV (Part 2)
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Hollie_Louise
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“You mean the weekly never ending tournement has to wait until the end of January for the finals?”

Well they have no tapings booked between now and UK tour so unless they've actually already taped the ending back in July, I'm presuming so yeah.
Hollie_Louise
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“still dont hold out hope they will push tna in right direction though”

Well surely they can't be pushed any further down the wrong direction? This new deal, like DA should have been, should be a time to put this kind of crap (filming television five months before airing for example) to bed for good.
kwynne42
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Well they have no tapings booked between now and UK tour so unless they've actually already taped the ending back in July, I'm presuming so yeah.”

So when do new episodes for their new Channel start then? not until the end of January I presume.
Hollie_Louise
09-12-2015
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“So when do new episodes for their new Channel start then? not until the end of January I presume.”

January 5th they go 'live' on POP followed by four days of tapings on January 6-9th which is at least a month of television followed by the UK tour which are all TV tapings, another 3-6 weeks of tapings done so by January 31st they'll have taped at least 7 weeks of IMPACT. I believe all UK tapings are two episodes each so could be 10 weeks of television done by the end of January lol.
batdude_uk1
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“January 5th they go 'live' on POP followed by four days of tapings on January 6-9th which is at least a month of television followed by the UK tour which are all TV tapings, another 3-6 weeks of tapings done so by January 31st they'll have taped at least 7 weeks of IMPACT. I believe all UK tapings are two episodes each so could be 10 weeks of television done by the end of January lol.”

That just seems like madness really, what a way to run a company, no wonder they are in a mess.
Thanks for the information by the way.
Hollie_Louise
10-12-2015
To be fair to them, taping a block isn't a bad thing to do. Taping out of sequence is which is only really an issue in a PPV month. As of now, they have no PPV scheduled for 2016 and I can't see one being held before Slammiversary in June. The issue will be if in April or May, they film 8 weeks of television and then the fallout to a PPV was filmed before the PPV. It's a shoddy way for the company to act in terms of talent and bookings but that's how it is. Why they couldn't do what NXT does and hold a TV taping for post BFG the night after BFG rather than using 3 months of matches they found in a cupboard, I don't know.

They need to pull their socks up in 2016. It's really annoying me the amount of talent I read giving it the woe is TNA BS, "it's just fashionable to criticise TNA", that crap. It's not, they are criticised because of the way they run the company. They are criticised for booking the same talent that complain TNA gets a rough ride for two tours and then cancel both tours leaving talents scrambling to find work they had to turn down lol.

And they've treated their fans appallingly these past couple of months. Cancelling a tour because they decided they didn't need to tape TV. Here's a novel idea, go and perform for people who want to give you their money anyway and not cancel on them for BS reasons.
kwynne42
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“To be fair to them, taping a block isn't a bad thing to do. Taping out of sequence is which is only really an issue in a PPV month. As of now, they have no PPV scheduled for 2016 and I can't see one being held before Slammiversary in June. The issue will be if in April or May, they film 8 weeks of television and then the fallout to a PPV was filmed before the PPV. It's a shoddy way for the company to act in terms of talent and bookings but that's how it is. Why they couldn't do what NXT does and hold a TV taping for post BFG the night after BFG rather than using 3 months of matches they found in a cupboard, I don't know.

They need to pull their socks up in 2016. It's really annoying me the amount of talent I read giving it the woe is TNA BS, "it's just fashionable to criticise TNA", that crap. It's not, they are criticised because of the way they run the company. They are criticised for booking the same talent that complain TNA gets a rough ride for two tours and then cancel both tours leaving talents scrambling to find work they had to turn down lol.

And they've treated their fans appallingly these past couple of months. Cancelling a tour because they decided they didn't need to tape TV. Here's a novel idea, go and perform for people who want to give you their money anyway and not cancel on them for BS reasons.”

Speaking of which last nights One Night Only is practically a year old and was hilariously out of date. Josh on commentary trying to fix it by claiming Koya/Shera was still fighting for the Revolution because he was tied up contractually to James Storm during One Night Only's

Funny though was JB's claim that he cuts his hair for just for PPV's
orangeballoon
10-12-2015
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Speaking of which last nights One Night Only is practically a year old and was hilariously out of date. Josh on commentary trying to fix it by claiming Koya/Shera was still fighting for the Revolution because he was tied up contractually to James Storm during One Night Only's

Funny though was JB's claim that he cuts his hair for just for PPV's”

i think they showed that one in the uk before.... although it wasnt up to date then either..
which is what i said at the time.. if they do "one night only" ppv they have to ensure there is no reference to the impact storylines and yet they often do, which makes them not only "date" but ridiculous.

the amount of money saved by "block" recording to weekly shows (let alone live weekly shows) is huge... and while they can (as they have with the recent impact) had the commentary & fillers recorded recently (and thus relevant to the world around them in real time) they suffer hugely from the popping of the "suspended belief" when the wrestlers are known to have moved on since the match was recorded in some way...
Hollie_Louise
10-12-2015
Recorded in February lol.
batdude_uk1
10-12-2015
It just ruins the whole flow of things if you as a spectator watching on tv know that a show you are watching was done weeks and weeks, if not months ago, and is now trying to be passed off as a current and up to date show.

While of course the financial impact (no pun intended) on the company should be important, they have to decide what they are, either a business first and foremost, or a wrestling company trying to put out the best product possible.

Showing a show which was taped weeks ago, and showing it as recent and up to date, is not in my mind at least, showing or putting on the best product possible.

If it means doing fewer shows, but keeping them more recent, and downsizing on the talent, then so be it, all business have to cut their cloth accordingly.

That would I think be a far better option, then voicing over some shows from almost a year ago and passing them off as current, and having people that are now with other companies still appearing on their shows.

TNA still has the brand name in wrestling circles to carry on however they decide to do, but surely it would be best to not try and con their fans at the very least?
Hollie_Louise
10-12-2015
To be honest, ONO's aren't that much of an issue because they tend to be independent of the product. It's more Impact I'm bothered about. it all comes down to money unfortunately. Because they can't charge admission to IMPACT tapings, it makes more sense to block book 10 weeks of television over 7 nights because it means they have to pay talent less now practically everybody is on PPA deals.
seibu
11-12-2015
Block taping is just the economics of the situation, sadly.

Please though, PLEASE stop with the ONOs, TNA!
Hollie_Louise
11-12-2015
As I say though, block taping is only an issue because since August, all shows have been filmed in July. I don't think anybody has an issue with the practice of block taping, it's the execution of it that grinds on people. NXT block tape and it works because they don't tape out of sequence. You won't get the aftermath of Takeover: London full of matches filmed in October. You won't have your main event from one of two events fans have actually paid for in 2015 invalidated because seemingly nobody considered the fact you have no television tapings scheduled for after that event.

I'm not trying to make it TNA vs NXT to be clear, it's just the closest comparison I can think of.

I don't mind ONOs personally. They are the lesser of two evils (the other being TNA lose revenue by defaulting on their international contracts and I don't think anybody believes TNA is in a position to lose revenue).

Block taping can work but not in the way TNA does it. They can make ONOs work by filming four weeks of Impact and a ONO in a block. The day after your ONO airs, you block another four week taping with ONO and continue through the year. Using this, ONO actually become storyline specific and a replacement for PPVs. They can react to the outcome of a ONO the day after it airs. If someone gets injured, the next week of IMPACT reflects that.

Having a December event taped in February is BS, having a December event taped in November isn't. As always with TNA, I believe the intention is good but the execution is bloody shite.
Hollie_Louise
18-12-2015
So that's TNA done for another year and finished on DA. DA screwed them over for their final week and only aired one airing at 11pm which led to IMPACT ending its run with 155,000 viewers.

TNA now begins is POP run next week with two weeks of 'Best Of 2015' episodes before launching with a 'live' run beginning January 5th
whedon247
18-12-2015
new set or anything confirmed?
Hollie_Louise
18-12-2015
I haven't read anything but I can't imagine anything special. The first episode will have different set due to it not being at Orlando
whedon247
18-12-2015
opportunity missed if they dont.
JCR
18-12-2015
They don't have any money.

Meltzer reported Jeff Hardy needs knee surgery, and his contract expires in March or April so he is presumably done with them for now.
batdude_uk1
19-12-2015
Will this tournament ever finish??
dave_windows
19-12-2015
TNA is losing faith in alot of fans for this balls up with the whole Title thing.
ags_rule
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“TNA is losing faith in alot of fans for this balls up with the whole Title thing.”

There's no doubt they have lost a lot of viewers, partly with the move to DA, and partly due to the fact the Network screwed them over so badly, resulting in absolute mess that the current television product is.

They will have to start producing some spectacular television to bring back ex-viewers, and with the roster they have, I can't see them doing it.
orangeballoon
24-12-2015
“One Night Only: Live!” pay-per-view January 8th will air on January 12th in UK...
but I don't get the theme! this is their rebirth weekend... being live & on the back of their first pop show (also live) it doesnt have to be "out of context" with the storylines like normal ono-ppv ("oh no!" have they thought that name out!) and while i can understand them using their normal "brand" of ppv (perhaps to build familiarity with it for the rest of the years ono ppvs) it really could have done with a bolder "theme name" - and not one of the traditional ppv names they have ruined by being just warmed up impact shows. this was a chance to set a potential new ppv theme brand for an annual ppv even if they didnt actually find it successful enough to do it again.. it could have shown ambition

makes me think it will depend on people who they feel may not sign longer contracts for tv work - and that is the problem for their image... they need a bold "wow" week, not a back to business as normal. something that says it's going to kick off in the name rather than in the description of the event being “It’s a dawn of a new era, where anything can and will happen. For one night only, the stars of Impact Wrestling discover what 2016 has in store"

ideally they would have the pop promotion during the lead up to the live 1st show... they would have twitter and you tube "teasers" - they would have a huge "bang" on the pop show, and leave a load of clues/hanging moment at something big at the ppv (again backed up with tweets between the 2 shows)... lets hope they are going to do just that... oh, but there is the recording in the middle where any "shock" in th ppv will be blown by the taping of following impacts before it.. sigh.
Hollie_Louise
24-12-2015
They managed to pull 111,000 for the first Best Of on POP which isn't too bad considering what they were getting first run shows on DA.

It lost 100k from its soap lead in but that's to be expected.
suncity
26-12-2015
Here's hopin ANgle returns to WWE for his last match.
suncity
26-12-2015
Are they having a Lockdown event in the UK btw? My friend seems to think so?
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