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TNA Wrestling on Challenge TV (Part 2)
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dave_windows
08-01-2016
Ive rally lost all faith in TNA.
Spoiler
First they did that farce of Hardy winning the belt then being stripped in some lame storyline because they only recorded footage of ethan with the belt.

Then they do a tournament which could have made a new star but no they put the belt back on the same boring guy.
orangeballoon
08-01-2016
spoilers dw!
James Frederick
10-01-2016
How can the King Of The Mountain Championship be defended in a normal singles match?

They should have kept it as the TV Championship if this is the way they were going to go.
orangeballoon
11-01-2016
they make only a few hundred people look a lot more in the first pop show.
pity it was a bit "the same" with only one new character (however "well liked he is")

the angle "angle" was as ever laboured, the set up just didnt really flow.

they did lead into the ono ppv (showing this wednesday on challenge so no spoilers!)

but it didnt feel as 3rd rate as the patched together last 3 months of treading water episodes... they do need to really step it up with the social media to keep the factions feuds alive (problem for us slightly out of usa timing... ) and they really need some new blood with some footage not tied to the arena they film 4 weeks at a time in.
hazydayz
11-01-2016
Guys it's real simple and I've said it all along, if you put on a wrestling show, you're only going to draw wrestling fans, that's why ROH doesn't get many viewers, that's why NJPW doesn't get many viewers, that's why WWE has their core audience of 3 million viewers. Every company has their core audience that will watch no matter what. If all you're gonna do is match, inring, match, inring, match the only people that will sit and watch it are wrestling fans and wrestling fans are a tiny little audience, nothing compared to the casual TV audience.


The fact of the matter is nothing has changed in TNA, it's still the same people writing the show, it's still the same management so of course nothing will change, just like WWE it's the same people doing the same jobs.

TNA at one point did hit 2 million viewers and were regularly drawing 1.3s and 1.4s and maybe that 2 million the Impact after the 10.10.10 Bound For Glory was the maximum reach for that company, maybe that was as good as it was ever gonna get for them but it's a damn sight better than what they are doing now. I also know the night Bischoff and Hogan debuted they did a very high number.


What else is there to say really? Who's gonna sit and watch it apart from wrestling fans? If you're changing the channel and you see it, why you watch it if you didn't like wrestling? You wouldn't. The WWF proved in the 80's that when you have characters and stories people will watch wrestling, even WCW proved it later on and then the WWF took it a step further in the Attitude Era and it revolved around characters and stories. That's why all the extra millions of people watched.
seibu
13-01-2016
I thought the reboot episode was really dull, sadly.

Hazy's right. Pure wrestling just doesn't do it for me. Let's get some angles going please.
orangeballoon
14-01-2016
the ono "live" first ppv of the year shown on challenge last night sort of started off by showing why tna is stll not in the "right place"

they packed the crowd so it looked popular (filling the left side of the entry ramp which is often empty) and had a very bright very large "titantron" (i know that is a wwe name for the screen based on their old corporate name but its like "hoover" is a term for the machine not just the maker brand) - both good signs.. (it was "sold out" but said to be "papered" so "packed out" not so hard)

but they started by listing the matches, then repeating the list ! ie they didnt have enough to fill the intro time with anything other than by repeating the list! the return of beer money & the start of angles leaving tour didnt scream out "hook" like a proper feud story line (and i know they did try to create an instant one on sundays impact where they had a reason why people might want to fight angle & his chosen ones.. but it just wasn't "sold")
orangeballoon
14-01-2016
thought it telling that when the pope was in the ring and mentioned josh to the crowd, they boo'd.
batdude_uk1
14-01-2016
Has The Pope retired from in ring action?
dave_windows
15-01-2016
Do they have any good main eventers left apart from the hardyz & Kurt Angle?
seibu
15-01-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Do they have any good main eventers left apart from the hardyz & Kurt Angle?”

Lashley, Roode, Storm.

EC3 arguably. EY even more arguably (love his heel persona).

They should re-hire Aries and push him big style. New entrance music. He's always hated his TNA theme. Just give the guy the proper main event push he's always deserved.

But they need to put these people in angles to make me give a damn again.
orangeballoon
18-01-2016
TNA this week was better than the "live" relaunch and all of the "filler" shows as they have been able to film some "behind the scenes" clips to build feuds and angles... but there is a bad stale taste left from the "going no where" months that has damaged the wrestlers on screen image they really have to work on wiping... and they have filmed a month of shows with not enough new faces to stir the paint tin

Ec3 sounds like y2k at times, but he is worthy of the belt from his arrogant mic style.
tyrus v ashley at the ppv still suffered from the brodus clay jelly act image... which is a pity as the "going no where" months would have been used to build his new look if it wasn't all filmed as flat matches. he is looking much more the character he needs to be though.

the entry "titantron" is very good. now if they could use one of those to make the crowd look twice the size
kwynne42
18-01-2016
Originally Posted by orangeballoon:
“TNA this week was better than the "live" relaunch and all of the "filler" shows as they have been able to film some "behind the scenes" clips to build feuds and angles... but there is a bad stale taste left from the "going no where" months that has damaged the wrestlers on screen image they really have to work on wiping... and they have filmed a month of shows with not enough new faces to stir the paint tin

Ec3 sounds like y2k at times, but he is worthy of the belt from his arrogant mic style.
tyrus v ashley at the ppv still suffered from the brodus clay jelly act image... which is a pity as the "going no where" months would have been used to build his new look if it wasn't all filmed as flat matches. he is looking much more the character he needs to be though.

the entry "titantron" is very good. now if they could use one of those to make the crowd look twice the size ”

They seem to be gradually phasing out the wrestling part of Impact Wrestling and going back to calling it Impact, whenever you see the signs the Impact part is huge and the wrestling bit is tiny underneath.
calderyon
20-01-2016
I canīt believe that Jenna Morasca of Survivor has had a match in professional wrestling.
Although when watching it, professional wrestling is not the first thing that comes to mind... [Especially with Jennaīs ring entrance and the pin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwHTcBdwvVU
dave_windows
20-01-2016
Originally Posted by seibu:
“EC3 arguably.”

Im guessing this is a joke. I found his promos pretty boring and his in ring work horrible.

Has the TNA title match happened yet?

I know they ve been promoting for weeks Hardy vs Ethan in title vs Career and I know who won but wondered if its aired on challenge yet as its something I want to have on DVD.
seibu
20-01-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Im guessing this is a joke. I found his promos pretty boring and his in ring work horrible.

Has the TNA title match happened yet?

I know they ve been promoting for weeks Hardy vs Ethan in title vs Career and I know who won but wondered if its aired on challenge yet as its something I want to have on DVD.”

Each to their own. It wasn't a joke

Yep, the title match has happened. It was on the POP reboot show.
orangeballoon
20-01-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Im guessing this is a joke. I found his promos pretty boring and his in ring work horrible.

Has the TNA title match happened yet?

I know they ve been promoting for weeks Hardy vs Ethan in title vs Career and I know who won but wondered if its aired on challenge yet as its something I want to have on DVD.”

the title v career match is this sunday.. it was shown on pop tuesday... so no spoilers!
JackFoley
21-01-2016
Meanwhile the first episode of Impact on Pop, when aired on Challenge, did less than 98,000 viewers. Can't imagine Challenge being very happy about it.
dave_windows
21-01-2016
Originally Posted by seibu:
“Each to their own. It wasn't a joke

Yep, the title match has happened. It was on the POP reboot show.”

So this sunday on Challenge then. I did here the ratings went up better probably cos Ethans reign sucked and fans wanted a change.
JackFoley
21-01-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“So this sunday on Challenge then. I did here the ratings went up better probably cos Ethans reign sucked and fans wanted a change.”

Actually POP cleared 8 million more homes in the past week through different providers and the raise in viewership (not in ratings, they were down due to the clearances and being available in more homes) is the same percentage (they gained 33,000 viewers, around 10% more than last week and they went from 72 to 80 million homes, also around 10%), so it was more people finding them than the product probably. Still they gained viewers and it's a good thing, even though they're down compared to a year ago from Destination America.
James Frederick
22-01-2016
Reading Matt Hardys Twitter has he completely flipped his lid.
JackFoley
22-01-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Reading Matt Hardys Twitter has he completely flipped his lid.”

It has something to do with sunday's episode of Impact, without giving away spoilers.
James Frederick
22-01-2016
Originally Posted by JackFoley:
“It has something to do with sunday's episode of Impact, without giving away spoilers.”

I know about that but this seems real Matt like he went off a few years ago.

Ranting at fans and he had a bitch about NXT
hazydayz
22-01-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“I know about that but this seems real Matt like he went off a few years ago.

Ranting at fans and he had a bitch about NXT”

It's still real to him damnit!
Hollie_Louise
23-01-2016
TNA are claiming they had AJ Styles, Doc Gallows and Karl Anderson under contract last year. They claim all three agreed handshake deals and later signed them but all contact ceased over Christmas.

Styles' manager is claiming there was never any deal agreed or signed by him.
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