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TNA Wrestling on Challenge TV (Part 2)
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JCR
16-02-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“They must be offering Jeff silly money at this point cause he could surely make decent money working the bigger indy shows and managing his own career.”

They probably offered to pay him in spite of the fact he apparently needs knee surgery, and has said he is going to have to tone down his matches in the near future.

They gave Odarg the Great a hype video- https://twitter.com/IMPACTWRESTLING/...64104310550529

Reminds me of dear old Rellik.
orangeballoon
17-02-2016
as i said last week.... crazy steve and the stable he is in (decay) is something they should have done the first time around...

and interesting it is billy corgan that is being hyped as the creator of it.
seibu
17-02-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“They would rather defend a bad product than admit that we are right and yet if you read the threads, all they talk about is how bad things are. It's like saying, i can say bad things and i can give bad reviews....but you're not allowed to.”

I've definitely noticed this. I've been attacked for levelling criticisms, only to see the same people level the same criticisms at the product a week or so later.

It's basic human psychology really. "I'm allowed to criticise my mum, but a stranger isn't" kinda stuff. These people feel very attached to the WWE brand.
seibu
17-02-2016
Oh yeah sadly I thought Impact was pretty dull this week. Seeing gimmicks which Corgan has come up with like Decay is kind of sad. He's trying to make the product youth orientated and edgy, but he's 48 years old! Decay would have been cool in like, 1994.

Generally there's a problem with wrestling still living in the shadow on the '90s. What to do?
orangeballoon
22-02-2016
this weekends (last night) lead up to lockdown episode was competent...

it also used the great "odarg" as the funny section well. the whole firing of him sucked a bit but the feud it started with the possible "case swopper" is improving.

and as for "running off through the crowd" - they cant be blamed for wanting to film a match end like that when they actually have a crowd they can do that through !

and i still like decay a lot...
orangeballoon
24-02-2016
decay would get some "look a-like" boost from the characters of the film "suicide squad" - but it is not due to be released until august and that might be a bit long away! the trailers will be airing though
JCR
27-02-2016
TNA have taped shows for the first two weeks of March, but have not yet announced a venue or date for taping the March 16th (20th in the UK) Impact, in addition pwinsider.com had it confirmed by John Gaburick that they were in LA this week trying to find investors, and had a meeting with POP to that end.

Originally Posted by pwinsider.com:
“Gaburick noted, "TNA CEO Dixie Carter has talked in recent media interviews about the company's execution of its 5 year growth plan" and that the meetings were in line with making those plans happen, adding, "It's a very exciting time for TNA."”

Anyone else, I'd say 'they're ****ed', but TNA will probably survive in some form until Bob & Janice decide they've had enough.
orangeballoon
27-02-2016
oil isnt what it was don't forget...

but one thing for sure... tna must be permanently orgasmic with all that exciting times stuff
JCR
03-03-2016
May not get a tour again here, Wrestling Observer says most of the people there had free comps and

Quote:
“The 1/30 show at SSE Wembley in London only drew 2,591 paid, by far the smallest the company has ever done at Wembley, with a $191,804 gate. The 1/31 show in Birmingham drew 1,063 paid and $84,595. We don’t have the paid for the first night of the tour in Manchester.”

orangeballoon
03-03-2016
Originally Posted by JCR:
“May not get a tour again here, Wrestling Observer says most of the people there had free comps and”

i didnt see the usual last minute discount tickets texts i saw last year though (& i do a lot of gigs a year so i get as lot of the "dump" ticket offers from the various big ticket dumpers)
they did the uk tour after a very poor tv product for the last 6 months of 2015... so no real shock.

the question is can they turn it around. GFW just seems to be hype and no break through, so it isn't a unique to tna thing.

this thread has gone a bit dead which could be a bad sign.
orangeballoon
03-03-2016
and while it is very typical Marilyn Manson.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60oQY8BL9j8 is the sort of image they have needed for a while... it has the "edgy look and music style" that america especially likes
dave_windows
04-03-2016
On Saturday’s Wrestling Observer radio, Dave Meltzer confirmed that TNA is up for sale. TNA Executive Vice President, Creative & Talent Relations John Gaburick told PWI that TNA is seeking outside investors to come on board with the company.



“TNA has been in in strategic partnership talks with several major global media companies and investment firms about the company’s next phase of growth.”



Gaburick confirmed that TNA President Dixie Carter and the “TNA Executive team” was in Los Angeles for meetings with possible investors earlier this week. He also noted that Carter was in New York City recently.



“TNA CEO Dixie Carter has talked in recent media interviews about the company’s execution of its 5-year growth plan” and that the meetings were in line with making those plans happen, adding, “It’s a very exciting time for TNA.”



TNA currently airs Impact Wrestling on Tuesday night’s on Pop TV.



For those wondering about Panda Energy, they stopped funding TNA several months ago. That is why TNA moved their payroll to the offices in Nashville. I’m not sure if Panda is still listed as their official owner but there is no money coming to TNA from them so the company is basically relying on their international TV deals to keep them afloat. Their deal with Pop TV is believed to be a barter deal.
JCR
06-03-2016
TNA still yet to officially announce the date and place the Impact in 9 days time- 15th March- is being taped.


Tick tock.
batdude_uk1
06-03-2016
Did anyone see that One Night Only thing on Challenge?

What was that all about, and why did they use so much from 2014 as filler??

So much of that just seemed so badly put together.
seibu
06-03-2016
Looks like the life support is finally being switched off.

If 100% WWE hegemony is what you wanted, well, be careful what you wish for!
seibu
06-03-2016
Personally, TNA 2009 - 2013, although much maligned on the internet, was the most fun I had watching wrestling since the attitude era. The show was unpredictable, silly, uneven, but never dull. Current RAW and current TNA are boring beyond belief in comparison.
Rich_Allen
06-03-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“On Saturday’s Wrestling Observer radio, Dave Meltzer confirmed that TNA is up for sale. TNA Executive Vice President, Creative & Talent Relations John Gaburick told PWI that TNA is seeking outside investors to come on board with the company.



“TNA has been in in strategic partnership talks with several major global media companies and investment firms about the company’s next phase of growth.”



Gaburick confirmed that TNA President Dixie Carter and the “TNA Executive team” was in Los Angeles for meetings with possible investors earlier this week. He also noted that Carter was in New York City recently.



“TNA CEO Dixie Carter has talked in recent media interviews about the company’s execution of its 5-year growth plan” and that the meetings were in line with making those plans happen, adding, “It’s a very exciting time for TNA.”



TNA currently airs Impact Wrestling on Tuesday night’s on Pop TV.



For those wondering about Panda Energy, they stopped funding TNA several months ago. That is why TNA moved their payroll to the offices in Nashville. I’m not sure if Panda is still listed as their official owner but there is no money coming to TNA from them so the company is basically relying on their international TV deals to keep them afloat. Their deal with Pop TV is believed to be a barter deal.”

Don't give Vince McMahon ideas, he's no longer a Billionaire but he could still afford to buy and sell TNA several times over.

Then again, more than half of TNA''s roster are ex WWE anyway.
ags_rule
06-03-2016
Originally Posted by seibu:
“Personally, TNA 2009 - 2013, although much maligned on the internet, was the most fun I had watching wrestling since the attitude era. The show was unpredictable, silly, uneven, but never dull. Current RAW and current TNA are boring beyond belief in comparison.”

I wouldn't go quite as far as that myself, but I will add some support to it.

I did not watch wrestling from about 2004-2011. TNA on ChallengeTV got me back into it. A flawed product? Sure. But it was fundamentally entertaining, I honestly believe that. BFG 2011 was a brilliant PPV and some of the best matches I've ever seen have come from the company.

I haven't watched it in well over a year - I think the Dudleyz/Dixie angle was the last thing that really grabbed my attention - and if it's curtains, it's a shame they're going out with a whimper rather than a bang. But so many terrible decisions made, particularly in terms of ditching all their TNA originals - who have since ended up in NXT, WWE and ROH - and bizarrely promoting talent who simply weren't up to it in their place. Rockstar Spud is not a main-event talent.
batdude_uk1
06-03-2016
Every wrestling company that closes is terrible, as it just means that there is one less avenue for people to go to, as not everyone can get employment from the WWE.

So I hope that somehow, someway, that TNA can survive.
seibu
06-03-2016
I'm very similar: TNA on challenge also got me back into wrestling, although I did go back and watch all the impacts immediately before too.

I'm not sure how much choice TNA had about letting all that talent go. I think a lot were on contracts which Spike and Panda were covering. They definitely *did* make a mistake though by putting imported WWE talent over their home grown talent. That was really bad long term planning.

For me, Spike / Panda TNA was great fun but evidently financially unsustainable. Just as NXT wouldn't be sustainable without WWE bankrolling it.
batdude_uk1
07-03-2016
The fact that at one point the Knockouts division was probably way better than the WWE's Divas division was great, but now it just seems to be the Dollhouse (whatever happened to Tayrn??) plus Velvet, Gail, and Maddison is a bit rubbish really.

Sadly it just looks rubbish at the moment, and a huge pale shadow of its former self (TNA as a company, not just the Knockouts division).
JCR
07-03-2016
Originally Posted by seibu:
“Looks like the life support is finally being switched off.

If 100% WWE hegemony is what you wanted, well, be careful what you wish for!”

TNA hasn't been the answer to that.

For better or worse it's given off the vibe that it's only true purpose is Dixie being able to say she's the star of a tv show for years.
seibu
07-03-2016
Originally Posted by JCR:
“TNA hasn't been the answer to that.

For better or worse it's given off the vibe that it's only true purpose is Dixie being able to say she's the star of a tv show for years.”

I appreciate TNA hasn't been everyone's cup of tea. But if there is enough of a wrestling market to support a real alternative to WWE, where is it? As I've been saying for years: If TNA is so bad, where's the replacement number two company kicking its ass and replacing it?

Or is it more likely I've been right all along: Wrestling is in decline and TNA is a casualty of that, which wrestling fans should have been rallying around rather than finding every excuse to criticise.
dave_windows
07-03-2016
TNA's logic is just puzzling at times I mean Matt hardy finally gets the world title for more than a week and TNA just think turn him heel in his first promo. Always been a fan of Matt and deffinately a Legend in wrestling but why on earth they did this ive no idea.

Then you have Ethan who held TNA up for hostage when he sulked after losing the belt the first time and came off as a massive asshole in the process. Yeah in reality TNA's fault for not shooting enough footage but now they just decide to make him a face?

Really dont get that logic. Now Ethan a Heel and Matt a face id understand.

I really should keep up to date on TNA but its just sad how they do things.
dave_windows
07-03-2016
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“I wouldn't go quite as far as that myself, but I will add some support to it.

I did not watch wrestling from about 2004-2011. TNA on ChallengeTV got me back into it. A flawed product? Sure. But it was fundamentally entertaining, I honestly believe that. BFG 2011 was a brilliant PPV and some of the best matches I've ever seen have come from the company.”

To be fair if you was in the UK you couldnt watch TNA in its early years because the only way to get hold of shows was to find someone who got copies of the shows on VHS tapes and you bought copies of them. TNA obviously knew this was happening because regulary they would have wrestling cutting promos on the shows telling fans not to trade and sell copies of their shows because of it supposedly taking bread off their table.

Which didnt really make sense because UK fans didnt have a channel to watch it over here and the internet like youtube back then didnt really have that many video sites about like we have these days where you could watch it. In the late 2000s there was a lot more footage to watch but the early stuff was unavailable and TNA didnt have footage on their website then. After a while I remember Impact had footage regulary on the net which must have attracted Challenge to get a deal going.

Alough before challenge came along TNA was on the wrestling channel I believe in some form.
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