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Old 24-07-2013, 01:43
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hes too tough for a suitttttttttttttttttt


but yeh he should really, just doesnt fit his mma character, tough decision for TNA
The others wear suits and are though people, so why not Rampage?

It isn't that tough a decision really, it is just a simple easy one, that they have got wrong.
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Old 24-07-2013, 01:44
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TNA have released Jesse Sorensen today.
Money really must be super tight in TNA right now, as he couldn't have been costing them, that much surely?
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Old 24-07-2013, 06:55
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Money really must be super tight in TNA right now, as he couldn't have been costing them, that much surely?
Apparently, if you believe what you read, he was being paid significantly more than most production assistants, so arguably still the same salary he was being paid as an in-ring wrestler.

yes it's a shitty thing to do after apparently promising him he had a "job for life" but then they weren't really obligated to keep him employed forever I suppose.
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Old 24-07-2013, 09:41
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Apparently, if you believe what you read, he was being paid significantly more than most production assistants, so arguably still the same salary he was being paid as an in-ring wrestler.

yes it's a shitty thing to do after apparently promising him he had a "job for life" but then they weren't really obligated to keep him employed forever I suppose.
Even if his pay was higher than some others, what he went through for the company, would certainly deserve it to be!

I wish him well for the future, and hope that he can at least get back to living a normal life, pain free.
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Old 24-07-2013, 09:44
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Even if his pay was higher than some others, what he went through for the company, would certainly deserve it to be!

I wish him well for the future, and hope that he can at least get back to living a normal life, pain free.
I'm sure if they'd asked him to take a pay cut to bring him in line with the other production assistants, he'd have probably agreed - that would have been the 'right' thing to do i suppose.

If he then got to a point where he could make a comeback as a wrestler then they could look at the contract again. I'm sure he'd just be happy to remain employed really.
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Old 24-07-2013, 09:49
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Even if his pay was higher than some others, what he went through for the company, would certainly deserve it to be!

I wish him well for the future, and hope that he can at least get back to living a normal life, pain free.
What he went through? He went through a standard wrestling match, that every wrestler in the company does. It could have happened to anybody, any wrestler.
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Old 24-07-2013, 09:50
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Apparently, if you believe what you read, he was being paid significantly more than most production assistants, so arguably still the same salary he was being paid as an in-ring wrestler.

yes it's a shitty thing to do after apparently promising him he had a "job for life" but then they weren't really obligated to keep him employed forever I suppose.
This decision reflects very badly on TNA. It's one thing to release fit and healthy wrestlers, but to let go someone like Jesse, after all he's been through makes TNA look so bad. I can understand that, financially, it's poor business sense to pay someone at a higher salary than they are worth... but this decision. more than any other, really makes it look like TNA is falling apart. How desperate is the company for money? To be shedding talent at this rate is unprecedented. I know wrestling has never been a job for life, but the remaining talent must be really worried. Who would blame them if they left as soon as possible? How much longer can TNA hang on?
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Old 24-07-2013, 10:00
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The others wear suits and are though people, so why not Rampage?

It isn't that tough a decision really, it is just a simple easy one, that they have got wrong.
suit wouldnt "suit" him so they havent really made wrong decision.

MEM is about main event stars not suits, thats jsut a play on the mafia thing

re all these cutbacks, TNA finnaly tour and now they are in financial meltdown? shame
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Old 24-07-2013, 10:09
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How much longer can TNA hang on?
They seem to be in an unfortunate position as well in a sense, because since they've taken Impact on the road, the Universal Studio where they used to tape it, as far as i'm aware, is now in solid use so they couldn't go back there if they wanted to.

This appears to be one of the primary reasons why they're having to let people go and 're-structure' the finances because the tapings are costing them so much.
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Old 24-07-2013, 20:29
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Anyone see the grief Dixie is getting on twitter?

TNA were doing a Q&A on Twitter under the term #askdixie and it's been taken over by the hardcore fans.
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Old 24-07-2013, 21:52
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They've screwed up big time imo, A.J should be built as the face to beat Bully, thats all gone now thanks to last week, A.J's push was very short anyway, it was awesome at the beginning.
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Old 25-07-2013, 00:03
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They seem to be in an unfortunate position as well in a sense, because since they've taken Impact on the road, the Universal Studio where they used to tape it, as far as i'm aware, is now in solid use so they couldn't go back there if they wanted to.

This appears to be one of the primary reasons why they're having to let people go and 're-structure' the finances because the tapings are costing them so much.
I have always thought TNA should move to Vagas on a permenent basis for TV and do the PPVs on the road
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Old 25-07-2013, 00:33
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The best thing TNA could do now is let Sting go to WWE and get him off the wage bill.

I still think Hogan is a big enough asset to keep. The guy sells tickets, as a promotional aide he's worth it.
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Old 25-07-2013, 01:51
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It's almost like Panda Energy said "Allright, enough of this. You've been around for 10 years and all we did was losing money. From now on you go on with Spike's money and what you get from the live events". Sadly, TNA is nowhere near ready to do that and they're cutting everything they can. What happened with Sorensen is deplorable. Even if he was making more than a normal producer he wasn't becoming rich, so cutting him off after slightly more than a year after the accident and after Dixie promised, apparently, that he would have a job for life with TNA really comes off as low (WWE, to make a comparison, kept Droz employed for nearly 8 years and gave him a pretty hefty settlement before releasing him. Matt Cappotelli, a guy who was diagnosed with a brain tumor, stayed employed with WWE for more than 3 years. They fired Test while he was nursing a neck injury but then they brought him back, so they kinda corrected that mistake -plus he had other issues that sadly led to his demise-). I wouldn't be shocked to read Zema Ion as one of the next releases, which would be low as well considering TNA didn't help him with his medical bills.
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Old 25-07-2013, 01:52
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The best thing TNA could do now is let Sting go to WWE and get him off the wage bill.

I still think Hogan is a big enough asset to keep. The guy sells tickets, as a promotional aide he's worth it.
But Hogan means squat now in 2013. Ratings have gone down, buyrates are not up even with less pay-per-views and he's one of the focal points of the company. He was supposed (he and Bischoff actually) to be the guy bringing TNA to the next level and let's face it, that hasn't happened.
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Old 25-07-2013, 01:58
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It's almost like Panda Energy said "Allright, enough of this. You've been around for 10 years and all we did was losing money. From now on you go on with Spike's money and what you get from the live events". Sadly, TNA is nowhere near ready to do that and they're cutting everything they can. What happened with Sorensen is deplorable. Even if he was making more than a normal producer he wasn't becoming rich, so cutting him off after slightly more than a year after the accident and after Dixie promised, apparently, that he would have a job for life with TNA really comes off as low (WWE, to make a comparison, kept Droz employed for nearly 8 years and gave him a pretty hefty settlement before releasing him. Matt Cappotelli, a guy who was diagnosed with a brain tumor, stayed employed with WWE for more than 3 years. They fired Test while he was nursing a neck injury but then they brought him back, so they kinda corrected that mistake -plus he had other issues that sadly led to his demise-). I wouldn't be shocked to read Zema Ion as one of the next releases, which would be low as well considering TNA didn't help him with his medical bills.
Meltzer said in the last wrestling observer, it's costing them $600,000 more per 2 show taping to do Impact on the road as opposed to at Universal. And they're nowhere near selling 10,000 $60 tickets for those shows.

Of course no one knows how much trouble they are or are not in, but letting Jesse Sorensen go after previously promising him a job for life isn't a good sign.
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Old 25-07-2013, 10:22
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Anyone see the grief Dixie is getting on twitter?

TNA were doing a Q&A on Twitter under the term #askdixie and it's been taken over by the hardcore fans.
X-Pac (Sean Waltman or whatever people want to call him) put out a tweet that really had a go at Dixie.

She is not exactly in favour at the minute, that much is for sure!
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Old 25-07-2013, 11:41
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But Hogan means squat now in 2013. Ratings have gone down, buyrates are not up even with less pay-per-views and he's one of the focal points of the company. He was supposed (he and Bischoff actually) to be the guy bringing TNA to the next level and let's face it, that hasn't happened.
Hogan is still a name to some people. When he's promoting Impact tapings he gets himself on radio, TV shows when no one else in the company would be able too. Since he came on board, TNA programming is being shown in a load of new markets. I'm not saying TNA desperately needs Hogan but to say he means squat and has done nothing for them isn't true.
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Old 25-07-2013, 11:52
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What surprises me is that when Bisch took charge of WCW the first thing he did was stop the house shows as they were loosing money. TNA's drawing smaller crowds to house shows than some UK companies are its madness to keep them going.
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Old 25-07-2013, 16:42
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Hardcore Justice (2013) August 15, 2013 Special episode of Impact Wrestling used as a replacement for Hardcore Justice.

Airs on challenges TV on 18/8/13 @ 9pm.On freeview channel 46

I think after the one night only PPV are finished TNA might go back to monthly PPV.
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Old 25-07-2013, 17:47
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Hardcore Justice (2013) August 15, 2013 Special episode of Impact Wrestling used as a replacement for Hardcore Justice.

Airs on challenges TV on 18/8/13 @ 9pm.On freeview channel 46

I think after the one night only PPV are finished TNA might go back to monthly PPV.
I don't think that will be the case. TNA only did the One Night Only shows as a way to fufill contracts with PPV companies and International broadcasters. Considering buyrates for the PPV shows they've kept haven't grown hugely, I can't see them willing to go back to 12 PPVs a year as well as filming Impact on the road.

Looks like #askdixie got a reaction:
http://www.impactwrestling.com/news/...t-Dixie-Carter
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Old 25-07-2013, 22:36
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They've screwed up big time imo, A.J should be built as the face to beat Bully, thats all gone now thanks to last week, A.J's push was very short anyway, it was awesome at the beginning.
AJ has no charisma, the character flip is not working at all but I do agree, AJ would have been a better opponent for Bully.
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Old 25-07-2013, 23:15
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A few random TNA thoughts:

Nice to see Sabin win the World Title. After all the work he has put in for the company it's much deserved.

I do agree with those who say the way he won it wasn't particularly good. After the beatdown by Bully Ray, Sabin uses a hammer shot to get the win. Could have done it better but hey, he's the World Champ and all the best to him for his upcoming reign.

In regards to the Ultimate X Match, surely it has to be Sonjay's title win. Manic or TJ Perkins or whoever hasn't been in the company that long and Greg Marasciulo has only just debuted. It's amazing that Sonjay has never had the opportunity to hold the X-Division title. Another guy who deserves his opportunity with a title.

Not sure what to make of the MEM at the moment. Last week's show was rather strange in regards to Kurt Angle, and surely Rampage won't be in a wrestling match for a while yet and the fact they keep referring to him as the "heavy hitter" would suggest he's someone who will fight when needed and have the MEM's back. And maybe he just doesn't want to wear a suit. Lol.

TNA seems to be fully behind Magnus. He's part of the MEM and romping away with the BFG series at the moment. It's surely not inconceivable that Magnus could certainly face the World Champion at Bound for Glory and win the title after the push he's getting by TNA.

And, as mentioned, AJ Styles is not going anywhere. As I've said previously the reaction he gets is lacklustre. The crowd just don't know how to react or even want to react to his character. At first I thought this character would work but it obviously hasn't. TNA needs to rethink AJ and his character.

Overall the wrestling is still at a good level. TNA Impact at the moment is a good show.
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Old 26-07-2013, 10:42
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Some of my favourites from #AskDixie:

"@TableofJapan: #AskDixie Is it true a lot of mid-card wrestlers in TNA are considering living in North Korea, because they have a better human rights?"

"@PERFECTION_IMW: Why did you hire everyone on the cover of The Death of WCW? #AskDixie"

I agree with the second to be honest, it's not exactly hidden how bad hogan and bischoff were for WCW
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Old 26-07-2013, 11:32
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Overall the wrestling is still at a good level. TNA Impact at the moment is a good show.
That's a very good point - regardless of the behind the scenes traumas what we see on screen is looking good, it's engaging and entertaining, the storylines are progressing well, and the actual standard of wrestling is (mostly) excellent. Let's hope that despite the cuts and money troubles they can continue to deliver what has been recently a very consistently good show each week.
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