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Old 16-12-2016, 23:15
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TNA are launching an app to watch Impact in the UK.

http://fightnetwork.com/law/tna-plan...-u-k-audience/
Who in their right mind is actually going to pay to watch TNA through the app.

WWE is different because they are the top dog, but the past year of TNA has been terrible.
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Old 17-12-2016, 11:10
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I hope that this is not a sign of them struggling to get a TV deal over here, so have just put an app out, although it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

Watching it on a phone or other portable device, is in no way shape or form a good enough replacement for a deal with a TV company.
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Old 17-12-2016, 11:15
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Challenge are now showing total nonstop deletion tommorow- Sunday 18th- at 9pm.
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Old 17-12-2016, 11:19
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I hope that this is not a sign of them struggling to get a TV deal over here, so have just put an app out, although it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

Watching it on a phone or other portable device, is in no way shape or form a good enough replacement for a deal with a TV company.
I would suspect if TNA gets a UK deal, it would be with a low profile channel like Viceland, basically in the middle of nowhere in the sky EPG.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:19
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Challenge are now showing total nonstop deletion tommorow- Sunday 18th- at 9pm.
That's good, as it was advertised as next week's show at the end of last Sunday's show!
Presumably they just got them the wrong way around on the original notice, and the last Challenge screening on January 1st will now be the review of the year show, as it presumably will be in the States on the previous Thursday.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:38
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I hope that this is not a sign of them struggling to get a TV deal over here, so have just put an app out, although it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

Watching it on a phone or other portable device, is in no way shape or form a good enough replacement for a deal with a TV company.
Don't be silly. According to Triple H and the WWE the 7 million viewers that stopped watching wrestling in America are all watching on their phones lol. An audience of 10 million down to under 3 million on Monday nights now.


Phone is the way to go. TV's old fashioned now. Millions are watching on their phones.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:40
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Challenge are now showing total nonstop deletion tommorow- Sunday 18th- at 9pm.
That is simply marvellous! I did think it odd to not show it, seeing that was the only proper episode left this year.
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Old 17-12-2016, 12:55
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I hope that this is not a sign of them struggling to get a TV deal over here, so have just put an app out, although it wouldn't surprise me if it was.

Watching it on a phone or other portable device, is in no way shape or form a good enough replacement for a deal with a TV company.
I think it's not a sign of them struggling as such, it's an outright way of them saying they're not expecting to get one at all.

I think their only two viable options would be DMAX or Tru TV for a 'proper' TV deal as it stands.
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:05
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I think it's not a sign of them struggling as such, it's an outright way of them saying they're not expecting to get one at all.

I think their only two viable options would be DMAX or Tru TV for a 'proper' TV deal as it stands.
I'd imagine there'd be a problem getting one, given 5 minutes of googling TNA wrestling would tell any potential partner the boss has a long track record of lying to employees, TV executives, and investors in the company.
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:11
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I'd imagine there'd be a problem getting one, given 5 minutes of googling TNA wrestling would tell any potential partner the boss has a long track record of lying to employees, TV executives, and investors in the company.
I certainly think her track record of how she's treated the TV executives who are essentially paying her wages probably would go against them to an extent, but I would imagine that anyone looking to show their product in this country would be looking more at the ratings potential and how they could best exploit it with advertisers.

But with the WWE being so prominent and, apparently, now launching an exclusive UK Championship title, they're probably going to be more particular about whether or not TNA can raise their channel's profile and bring in the ratings.

That's why a channel like DMAX or Tru TV would be a viable option as I expect the ratings expectations on those aren't that great. And Tru TV having a freeview slot would also be a huge bonus for them as well.
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:13
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Also worth noting ICW can't get a UK tv deal, and I'd guess they'd get higher ratings than TNA at this point.
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:18
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If the WoS pilot is considered a success that might help they I suppose, even if the product is as different as ECW & Smokey Mountain were.

(Jim Ross has said there is 'big news' about something next week, which could be WoS running more shows).
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Old 17-12-2016, 13:59
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Also worth noting ICW can't get a UK tv deal, and I'd guess they'd get higher ratings than TNA at this point.
Exactly. And if you factor in the distinct possibility that the WWE will allow the UK Title to be defended on ICW shows, as well as other UK indies, then it all conspires to push TNA further out into the wilderness in this country.
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Old 17-12-2016, 14:25
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I think it's not a sign of them struggling as such, it's an outright way of them saying they're not expecting to get one at all.

I think their only two viable options would be DMAX or Tru TV for a 'proper' TV deal as it stands.
Even with those options, who can remember the channel numbers for those, Challenge being 145 was quite easy to do, and they had a brand that people had beard of, those two channels, I would be surprised if more than a few people had heard of them.
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Old 17-12-2016, 14:45
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That's why a channel like DMAX or Tru TV would be a viable option as I expect the ratings expectations on those aren't that great. And Tru TV having a freeview slot would also be a huge bonus for them as well.
only 8 or so companies own all 250+ channels most people can get in their freeview and extended cable / sky bundles...
and when you put them in a family tree and add in tna's past partners internationally there are not many options left...
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Old 17-12-2016, 14:55
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I think it's not a sign of them struggling as such, it's an outright way of them saying they're not expecting to get one at all.
I think their only two viable options would be DMAX or Tru TV for a 'proper' TV deal as it stands.
Judging by this I don't think they should hold out much hope for being on TruTV!
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Old 17-12-2016, 15:10
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Judging by this I don't think they should hold out much hope for being on TruTV!
Yikes!, Didn't know that. Narrows the field even further still.
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Old 17-12-2016, 17:33
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Yikes!, Didn't know that. Narrows the field even further still.
Yup, which is why I think that they are struggling find a home, hence this hodgepodge of an effort with the app.
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Old 17-12-2016, 18:13
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Kind of had a feeling it was going to happen to tna at some point. Seems to be the way most wrestling companies are heading with pay per month streaming. With wwe icw progress wcpc etc all doing similar things it was only a matter of time before tna would head the same way. Only 2 quid a month for impact plus other classic content isn't too bad I guess. It's better than having nothing I suppose which looks to be the alternative after 1st of January. Not a suprise no uk broadcaster seems interested. Ratings down 60 percent from 12 months ago (30 year old repeats of bullseye and crystal maze get higher ratings than new impact says a lot). Theyalso have a bad rep with US broadcasters (premier sports turned them down because of that). Seems easier and cheaper to back a local uk company than tna especially as uk wrestling is the most relevant since the original wos days
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Old 17-12-2016, 19:13
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Watching it on a phone or other portable device, is in no way shape or form a good enough replacement for a deal with a TV company.
Why not just download the episode off dailymotion in 720p and watch the mp4 on a xbox, PS4 or through your dvd player.
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Old 17-12-2016, 19:35
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30 year old repeats of bullseye and crystal maze get higher ratings than new impact says a lot
Thats because Crystal Maze is a iconic show.
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Old 17-12-2016, 19:46
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Why not just download the episode off dailymotion in 720p and watch the mp4 on a xbox, PS4 or through your dvd player.
Because it's illegal perhaps?
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Old 17-12-2016, 20:23
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Why not just download the episode off dailymotion in 720p and watch the mp4 on a xbox, PS4 or through your dvd player.
It is still not really the same as having it scheduled on an actual TV channel, as it is a bit of a pain having to do all of that.
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Old 17-12-2016, 21:15
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For the latest set of TNA ratings here in the UK they did 133,000 viewers on Challenge. That's not bad at all for original programming.

People should look at WWE on Sky Sports. WWE is consistenly under 100k for Raw and Smackdown. The last viewing figures for Sky Sports had 86,000 watching Raw live and only 54,000 watching Smackdown live. None of the repeats made any of the top 10s. The lowest of all Sky Sports channels being 17,000.


In other words even though 86,000 watched Raw live and 54,000 watched Smackdown live. Out of all those repeats Sky Sports show and any other WWE shows they have, none of them got more than 17,000 viewers which is very very low. That right there tells you for that week ending December 4th the WWE had at the very most only 86,000 viewers in the UK. Not even 100,000.

If we go to the week prior Raw and Smackdown again fail to hit 100,000 viewers but we see a repeat of Smackdown gets 13,000 viewers. It's not as if WWE are doing great on Sky Sports.


So TNA does have more viewers in the UK than the WWE and both companies are lucky to get that.
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Old 17-12-2016, 22:53
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Of course the fact that you have to pay for a Sky Sports subscription if you want to watch Raw or Smackdown live is a big part of that.
At least TNA on Challenge was free to everyone as Challenge is a Freeview channel.
I only really have a Sky Sports subscription for WWE, I'm not really interested in other ("real") sports, and it's a big outlay to watch what are actually entertainment programmes, especially if you want to watch them in HD.
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