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Old 27-12-2016, 16:56
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All the PPVs went to Box Office under the most recent deal, which also removed NXT and WWE Vintage Collection from Sky completely.
I presume this was to make the WWE Network more attractive to join in the UK once it finally became available here.
As an aside, I've never understood why the WWE commentators endless bang on about the PPVs being available "only on the WWE Network" when you can obviously watch them perfectly legally (although at a price) elsewhere, even in the States!
Whatever happened to Vintage Collection?

The show had been gone from UK TV for quite a while alough I heard that it was airing internationally. Wikipedia says 2013 was when Australia stopped airing it. Seems like Asia is still airing it alough the article clearly hasent been updated in a long time.
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Old 27-12-2016, 17:58
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I can't see the app doing well viewing figs were way down when it was free to watch who the hell is going to pay to watch.

If it was any good yes if it was good I'd be willing I pay for the WWE Network -ROH-NJPW-What Culture Extra/WCPW because they are all more than worth the money I wouldn't watch TNA if they paid me.
WWE Network worth the money? It would be if the current product was any good, as opposed to dire - the free-falling viewing figures back that up.

I'll do my usual - get the Network from Rumble through to Mania and then cancel. Nothing else during the year is ever worth watching.
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Old 27-12-2016, 18:21
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WWE Network worth the money? It would be if the current product was any good, as opposed to dire - the free-falling viewing figures back that up.

I'll do my usual - get the Network from Rumble through to Mania and then cancel. Nothing else during the year is ever worth watching.
Yes over all it's still worth it plus every old PPV from WWE WCW ECW and every Raw SD and Nitro and other stuff plus it's worth it for NXT alone and 205 which is way better than they are used on Raw
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Old 27-12-2016, 20:04
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WWE Network worth the money? It would be if the current product was any good, as opposed to dire - the free-falling viewing figures back that up.

I'll do my usual - get the Network from Rumble through to Mania and then cancel. Nothing else during the year is ever worth watching.
WWE Network is completely different. A big history and a huge amount of different promotions they bought.

TNA just got greedy, thought Challenge would bow down and kiss their backside and they said No.
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Old 27-12-2016, 22:36
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I think the 4.99 price point isn't too bad personally. They've got to get something for it and there is access to the library. Obviously going from free to 4.99 in one leap isn't ideal but they've got to charge something for that.

I'll be waiting to see what library stuff is available at launch and then deciding whether I want to wait for more to be put on or just get it then.

There's nothing saying TNA got greedy in regards to Challenge. I imagine re-runs of shows, even that rate higher, cost a fair bit less than TNA did and Challenge made their decision based on that.

With new owners at the helm, I'm much more willing to give TNA a chance again but I'll wait to see an improvement in terms of what I want to see (not making an overall judgement on the product but there hasn't been much I want to watch recently) before I pay for it. The library, like WWE, is much more interesting to me than the current product.
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Old 27-12-2016, 22:54
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Yes over all it's still worth it plus every old PPV from WWE WCW ECW and every Raw SD and Nitro and other stuff plus it's worth it for NXT alone and 205 which is way better than they are used on Raw
The biggest inditement of WWE Network is that it's best content is nearly 20 years old, or modern documentaries about a time it used to be good.

NXT PPVs are usually alright but NXT as a whole is just a WWE-lite indy show. The wrestling is better than raw or SD but not as good as the dedicated programs.

It's a great Network for the hardcore fans but for casuals it is poor because the current product is poor. Simple as that.
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Old 27-12-2016, 23:23
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I think the 4.99 price point isn't too bad personally. They've got to get something for it and there is access to the library. Obviously going from free to 4.99 in one leap isn't ideal but they've got to charge something for that.

I'll be waiting to see what library stuff is available at launch and then deciding whether I want to wait for more to be put on or just get it then.

There's nothing saying TNA got greedy in regards to Challenge. I imagine re-runs of shows, even that rate higher, cost a fair bit less than TNA did and Challenge made their decision based on that.

With new owners at the helm, I'm much more willing to give TNA a chance again but I'll wait to see an improvement in terms of what I want to see (not making an overall judgement on the product but there hasn't been much I want to watch recently) before I pay for it. The library, like WWE, is much more interesting to me than the current product.
I am hoping with Dixie gone things will improve.

If it does then I would be willing to pay for it.
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Old 28-12-2016, 13:18
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I think the 4.99 price point isn't too bad personally. They've got to get something for it and there is access to the library. Obviously going from free to 4.99 in one leap isn't ideal but they've got to charge something for that.

I'll be waiting to see what library stuff is available at launch and then deciding whether I want to wait for more to be put on or just get it then.

There's nothing saying TNA got greedy in regards to Challenge. I imagine re-runs of shows, even that rate higher, cost a fair bit less than TNA did and Challenge made their decision based on that.

With new owners at the helm, I'm much more willing to give TNA a chance again but I'll wait to see an improvement in terms of what I want to see (not making an overall judgement on the product but there hasn't been much I want to watch recently) before I pay for it. The library, like WWE, is much more interesting to me than the current product.
If TNA want it to work they MUST include all previous PPVs as well as all the Impacts.

Nothing to say about TNA being greedy? There is because I personally asked them!

TNA didnt want Challenge to pay what was offered last time and Challeneg didnt see the price as feeable so Challenge said no. They tried!
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Old 28-12-2016, 13:21
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I am hoping with Dixie gone things will improve.

If it does then I would be willing to pay for it.
Dixie gone from power will be the best thing to happen in a long time.
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Old 28-12-2016, 13:33
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All the PPVs went to Box Office under the most recent deal, which also removed NXT and WWE Vintage Collection from Sky completely.
I presume this was to make the WWE Network more attractive to join in the UK once it finally became available here.
As an aside, I've never understood why the WWE commentators endless bang on about the PPVs being available "only on the WWE Network" when you can obviously watch them perfectly legally (although at a price) elsewhere, even in the States!
Perversely on recorded broadcasts in the UK the Network isn't mentioned at the request of Sky, who likely get compensated for every Network subscription (hence the higher £9.99 price point).

Interesting times for wrestling in the UK- if World of Sport does get picked up by ITV (and it can't go anywhere else) then the WWE would have genuine competition at least on TV for the first time in the market since the old TNT/WCW days.

As for TNA, I have my doubts that streaming is much of a draw to even hardcore fans- they would have been better off going down the linear channel route with a bigger partner.
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Old 28-12-2016, 13:47
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Perversely on recorded broadcasts in the UK the Network isn't mentioned at the request of Sky, who likely get compensated for every Network subscription (hence the higher £9.99 price point).
Interesting, I wasn't aware of that as I always watch the live version of Raw, which isn't doctored of course.
I always wondered why we effectively paid half as much again for the WWE Network as the Americans (although the difference isn't as great now of course in real terms!) and that could indeed explain it.
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Old 28-12-2016, 16:22
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According to Pwinsider.com, an official announcement that Anthem Sports and Entertainment has officially purchased TNA and its parent company Impact Ventures LLC from Dixie Carter will likely happen in the next 24 hours. Word is that Dixie Carter is done with the company in terms of having any true position of power and Ed Nordholm of Anthem will be the lead person going forward.

– Thursday’s Impact Wrestling will be the Hardy New Year celebration, with lots from the Hardy compound. Pwinsider.com reports that there will be something unique on the show that has never been done on pro wrestling TV before

– The company is moving forward with plans for house shows next year.

– TNA tapes in Orlando from January 5th through the 12th. The company will tape 12 episodes of Impact as well as broadcast a live One Night Only PPV. They will also tape additional material.
http://411mania.com/wrestling/tna-ne...being-planned/
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Old 28-12-2016, 16:40
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Perversely on recorded broadcasts in the UK the Network isn't mentioned at the request of Sky, who likely get compensated for every Network subscription (hence the higher £9.99 price point).

Interesting times for wrestling in the UK- if World of Sport does get picked up by ITV (and it can't go anywhere else) then the WWE would have genuine competition at least on TV for the first time in the market since the old TNT/WCW days.

As for TNA, I have my doubts that streaming is much of a draw to even hardcore fans- they would have been better off going down the linear channel route with a bigger partner.
Would it be that bad if WWE made everything on the network available at the same time when Sky airs them live. Suprised WWE never got their new deal that way so everyones happy.
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Old 29-12-2016, 01:05
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Would it be that bad if WWE made everything on the network available at the same time when Sky airs them live. Suprised WWE never got their new deal that way so everyones happy.
If you put everything on the Network linear tv channels would pay a lot less for tv rights because people can avoid watching WWE on, say, USA and wouldn't watch USA's commercials, which is how USA recoup the money they spend on WWE rights. That's why WWE will not move Raw and SmackDown to the Network for a long time, they'd lose a shitton of money.
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Old 29-12-2016, 01:09
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If you put everything on the Network linear tv channels would pay a lot less for tv rights because people can avoid watching WWE on, say, USA and wouldn't watch USA's commercials, which is how USA recoup the money they spend on WWE rights. That's why WWE will not move Raw and SmackDown to the Network for a long time, they'd lose a shitton of money.
In WWE'S prefect world they would love Raw and Smackdown live on The Network (And I'm sure fans would be willing to pay more for that I would as then I could cancel Sky Sports) as that way they could control everything about it.

But even if they charged twice as much they would still lose money.
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Old 29-12-2016, 01:12
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In WWE'S prefect world they would love Raw and Smackdown live on The Network (And I'm sure fans would be willing to pay more for that I would as then I could cancel Sky Sports) as that way they could control everything about it.

But even if they charged twice as much they would still lose money.
Exactly, even if they do triple the subscribers they have now at double the price they'd still probably lose money, that's how much money they're making from the tv deals (not just USA, but Sky in the UK, Italy and Germany, Ten Sports in India and so on).

What, however, I can definitely see at least be discussed when the new US tv deal comes up is, say, put Raw and SmackDown on the Network not live but after 24-48 hours. It doesn't mean it's going to happen, but they'll probably discuss it.
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Old 29-12-2016, 01:20
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What, however, I can definitely see at least be discussed when the new US tv deal comes up is, say, put Raw and SmackDown on the Network not live but after 24-48 hours. It doesn't mean it's going to happen, but they'll probably discuss it.
I can see WWE trying that but even if USA Network agreed Sky and other channels across the world would have to and Sky are the reason they had to take Main Event off The Network as Sky paid for exclusive UK rights so I can't see Sky letting them do it unless they get Raw/SD for almost free which of course WWE won't do.
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Old 29-12-2016, 01:25
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I can see WWE trying that but even if USA Network agreed Sky and other channels across the world would have to and Sky are the reason they had to take Main Event off The Network as Sky paid for exclusive UK rights so I can't see Sky letting them do it unless they get Raw/SD for almost free which of course WWE won't do.
Well, most of them air Raw live now or at least the day after, but you're right, we'll see what happens in 3 years though (WWE is under contract with USA until Q3 2019, so that's a loooooooooooooong way ahead)
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Old 31-12-2016, 20:54
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The app is now available to purchase if anyone wishes to so.
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Old 01-01-2017, 22:58
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What is it called please? I can't find it in the apple store. Thank you
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Old 02-01-2017, 00:32
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What is it called please? I can't find it in the apple store. Thank you
Sorry I am using Android, and it is called "Total Access TNA" on there.
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Old 02-01-2017, 05:19
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The app is now available to purchase if anyone wishes to so.
Shame it crashes on my android box and was a total nightmare to find. I tried for my iPhone but as it isn't the the most updated version and my iPhone just won't update it I can't get it.
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Old 02-01-2017, 09:44
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as challenge showed the best of 2016 episode i just deleted it.
also deleted the tivo series link as now just clutter in it's processing capacity

bye tna, it has been adequate
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Old 02-01-2017, 10:47
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So Jeff Hardy is back as his regular character now I see.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:53
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Has it actually been released to the Apple Store?
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