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Old 13-10-2013, 07:08
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That's the only thing I could really think of as the most legitimate reason. Like when W.W.F. had their name for years but when the other W.W.F. finally decided to officially kick up a fuss about it - action was obviously taken.

Getting back to Lei'd Tapa, I think that it's good that they're giving her a blatant push via these run-ins on other knockouts but they are setting themselves up for a fall unless they sort the knockouts roster out/give the monster heel a decent feud.

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The problem with Tapa is lack of charisma, Kong sold the femme monster so much better as does Beth Phoenix, those two can really put on a show, Tapa just screams a lot and pulls ridiculous faces, its early 80s stuff, not good enough for modern audiences.

Agree about Velez, she is a good technical wrestler and her vs Kim would be awesome, but she's another MMA and has a career outside wrestling, so probably won't happen.
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Old 13-10-2013, 11:18
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Old 13-10-2013, 21:05
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Tuning in tonight for the first time in months.

Is the runtime seriously 20 minutes less - still with adverts?
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Old 17-10-2013, 14:01
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Tuning in tonight for the first time in months.

Is the runtime seriously 20 minutes less - still with adverts?
I think there was some sort of cock up by Challenge - the missing bit has been put up on their website apparently. These things realy dont help the TNA brand...

Realy pleased to see Joe added to the Ultimate X match @ BFG, should help recapture some of the old magic!
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Old 17-10-2013, 15:04
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I think there was some sort of cock up by Challenge - the missing bit has been put up on their website apparently. These things realy dont help the TNA brand...

Realy pleased to see Joe added to the Ultimate X match @ BFG, should help recapture some of the old magic!
Has that lowish weight limit set to avoid Abyss types getting the belt gone now then.
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Old 17-10-2013, 18:56
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Has that lowish weight limit set to avoid Abyss types getting the belt gone now then.
They keep introducing it and then periodically getting rid of it when they want to reintroduce Joe into the division.

As with most things like that in TNA, it's best not to dwell on the rules that are inevitably broken. Same thing with all X-Division matches must be triple-threats and the person who isn't pinned gets in the next one blah blah blah
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Old 18-10-2013, 02:03
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The Impact taping in Chattanooga on 5th December appears to have been canceled and you can no longer buy tickets for the taping in Baltimore on 21st November, though ticketmaster, although the event is still listed.

They also appear to have sold about 280 tickets, all be it 3 weeks out from the date, for a house show in Toledo, Ohio on November 9th (you can count the dots on Ticketmaster) which is also in an arena.

Ouch.
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Old 18-10-2013, 02:38
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The Impact taping in Chattanooga on 5th December appears to have been canceled and you can no longer buy tickets for the taping in Baltimore on 21st November, though ticketmaster, although the event is still listed.

They also appear to have sold about 280 tickets, all be it 3 weeks out from the date, for a house show in Toledo, Ohio on November 9th (you can count the dots on Ticketmaster) which is also in an arena.

Ouch.
TNA should cut house shows and only do tv and ppv on the road,they won't be making money but losing less for only going out when they need to.
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Old 18-10-2013, 09:07
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imapcts really lost its way, paper thin roster and half of them not doing anything

yeh ultimate x will be good but theres no storyline

besides bully/aj nothing stands out

bad influence need a huge match,hope they get it

good to see kurt back but its another forced set up.

could BFG be the last ever?
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Old 18-10-2013, 10:17
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The Impact taping in Chattanooga on 5th December appears to have been canceled and you can no longer buy tickets for the taping in Baltimore on 21st November, though ticketmaster, although the event is still listed.

They also appear to have sold about 280 tickets, all be it 3 weeks out from the date, for a house show in Toledo, Ohio on November 9th (you can count the dots on Ticketmaster) which is also in an arena.

Ouch.
I know it wouldn't happen, but I am picturing somewhere like the M.E.N. Arena with that sort of figure, and it sure wouldn't look too good!
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Old 18-10-2013, 11:07
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Tna frustrate me so much, they do a lot wrong, people don't want to go and watch because TNA give them no reason to, TNA needs fresh ideas from top to bottom if they stand any chance.
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Old 18-10-2013, 14:47
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Tna frustrate me so much, they do a lot wrong, people don't want to go and watch because TNA give them no reason to, TNA needs fresh ideas from top to bottom if they stand any chance.
Easier said than done, it's pretty much all been done now, not much that one franchise or another hasn't already milked to death.
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Old 18-10-2013, 15:12
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I bet TNA are really regretting their decision to leave Universal Studios now.
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Old 18-10-2013, 15:13
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I bet TNA are really regretting their decision to leave Universal Studios now.
they should have left earlier, they stayed there so long that they lost any credibility as a rival to wwe.

they should stop house shows if losing money but taking impact on the road was long overdue.
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Old 18-10-2013, 15:17
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they should have left earlier, they stayed there so long that they lost any credibility as a rival to wwe.

they should stop house shows if losing money but taking impact on the road was long overdue.
Did TNA ever have any credibility as a rival to WWE in the first place?
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Old 20-10-2013, 04:19
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TNA now doing no shows between December 29th in Lowell, Massachusetts and January 29th in Dublin, apparently they're taping 6 weeks worth of tv in Orlando in the last week of November.
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Old 20-10-2013, 05:37
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TNA now doing no shows between December 29th in Lowell, Massachusetts and January 29th in Dublin, apparently they're taping 6 weeks worth of tv in Orlando in the last week of November.
I remember when WCW started pre-taping shows (I think it was WCW Thunder) for weeks in advance. If they taped a title change, they had to basically give the belt back to the champion for house shows and Nitro, as it was usually live, and then give the belt to the new champion once the switch had aired.

It's unfortunate that TNA are being forced to take Impact back to Orlando because the crowd there often killed the product stone dead - I've watched many a good PPV match worked in near silence more times than I can remember.

Taping 6 weeks worth of Impact is also going to have an effect on ratings as well as many fans will read the recaps and decide in advance if the show is worth watching or not.

And going back to Orlando as well could ultimately consign them to being no more than a glorified indie promotion on a permanent basis now. The people who control the money (Bob Carter's wife, as I understand it now..) are going to look at what's happened after they took Impact on the road and aren't going to be keen on doing it again.

They need a backer with a lot of money to burn, which is hardly going happen now, and they need people in charge who have genuine passion for wrestling if they're ever going to truly be seen as a genuine 2nd promotion.
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Old 20-10-2013, 07:15
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Did TNA ever have any credibility as a rival to WWE in the first place?
No, not as a rival, not even close. TNA did retain the WCW/ECW mantle of non-pg which would always ensure a loyal niche following, but these days they simply aren't making use of their edge and that limited appeal they once had is all but gone.

They tried to copy WWE, it failed, they tried to backtrack, this also seems to have failed.

Bad management has always been the problem with TNA and will some day be what kills it off.
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Old 20-10-2013, 11:41
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It wouldn't surprise me that at some point in the next few years, Spike buys TNA and installs Bischoff to run it. He seems to be well liked by the Spike executives. It wouldn't be the best for the long term development of TNA, but executives tend not to really know how to run a wrestling company so just pick a guy with experience.
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Old 20-10-2013, 11:49
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If impact goes back to being in one location, it needs to be live every week.and Orlando is not the best place Vagas would suit tna better.
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Old 20-10-2013, 12:14
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If impact goes back to being in one location, it needs to be live every week.and Orlando is not the best place Vagas would suit tna better.
Considering there's no difference in ratings from a taped show to a live one, it's unlikely they'll make every show live just due to the increased costs.

Vegas would depend on venue, but I don't think Vegas would be a great shout. The venue would have to be on the Strip to get attendance and with that you may have increased costs. The AWA ran Vegas at the Showboat years back and they struggled for attendance.

Their best bet is probably to get a deal tied in with a theme park in Orlando or LA/Anaheim similar to the Impact Zone and do PPVs at 2000 to 4000 seat venues.
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Old 20-10-2013, 13:17
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Within five years TNA will either be extinct or owned by VKM.
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Old 20-10-2013, 13:42
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Within five years TNA will either be extinct or owned by VKM.
No reason for Vince to buy them. If the brand and tape library was available 'cheaply' then he might, especially if it would give the company an almost complete library of pro wrestling for the past twenty plus years.

If Sting did sign a legends deal with the company as well, he'd likely want the tape library as he'd see money to be made with dvd's about Sting's career - not that he couldn't do that now of course with the WCW library
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Old 20-10-2013, 13:46
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Whatever happens to TNA, it's an impressive achievement that they have remained in business for 11 years. I bet not many people expected that when they started the weekly PPV's back in 2002.
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Old 20-10-2013, 15:42
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Whatever happens to TNA, it's an impressive achievement that they have remained in business for 11 years. I bet not many people expected that when they started the weekly PPV's back in 2002.
Indeed. Lasting that long on the budget they had, considering some of the names they've had working for them as well, is hugely impressive.

I hope they can turn things around because I certainly think the business needs a second "big" promotion.
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