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TNA Wrestling on Challenge TV (Part 2)
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FMKK
20-10-2013
Does anywhere on British TV show TNA PPVs? I kinda want to see the show tonight, though I think it's been poorly built. The focus has been on Hogan and Dixie too much and let's be honest, she's no Stephanie McMahon. Still, Angle vs Roode and Magnus vs Sting should be solid as well as the main event. I just hope they don't do something stupid like screw AJ out of the title.
JasonWatkins
20-10-2013
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Does anywhere on British TV show TNA PPVs? I kinda want to see the show tonight, though I think it's been poorly built. The focus has been on Hogan and Dixie too much and let's be honest, she's no Stephanie McMahon. Still, Angle vs Roode and Magnus vs Sting should be solid as well as the main event. I just hope they don't do something stupid like screw AJ out of the title.”

Challenge TV have shown all of the TNA content for many years. You'll have to wait until Wednesday for BFG though.
FMKK
20-10-2013
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Challenge TV have shown all of the TNA content for many years. You'll have to wait until Wednesday for BFG though.”

Ah cool. I knew they showed Impact but I didn't know about PPV because I only half follow TNA. Thanks.
seamus_guin
20-10-2013
They need to get dixie off air ASAP!!! she cant act at all!! i thought the product couldnt get worse but alas it has,although the rood/angle story line has huge potential.
DejaVoodoo
20-10-2013
Originally Posted by seamus_guin:
“They need to get dixie off air ASAP!!! she cant act at all!! i thought the product couldnt get worse but alas it has,although the rood/angle story line has huge potential.”

If you're cynical in nature, Dixie being on TV is an old trick to keep Panda energy funding it. Play into a money marks ego.
Grouty
20-10-2013
Just been catching up with this, watched the last 4 weeks, and **** me, its well dived, its absolute sh!te now, can't see me watching again after BFG, its terrible, i can't see it lasting much longer now tbh, and wtf is Dixie doing, have to agree with the above, she needs to stop coming to the ring every week, shes bloody terrible, all that smiling, 'darlin', winking crap, bloody hell its laughable, can't believe how fast its gone down the crapper, if its still going next year, it'll be a bloody miracle, such a shame, as they've got some great wrestlers there.
ogryn
20-10-2013
It was great around Slamiversary time. It's been all over the place recently though :/
Dandem
20-10-2013
If TNA were to go under, how many wrestlers do you think WWE would poach?

It's reported that Triple H is a big fan of Bobby Roode isn't it?
JasonWatkins
21-10-2013
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“If TNA were to go under, how many wrestlers do you think WWE would poach?

It's reported that Triple H is a big fan of Bobby Roode isn't it?”

I think Roode would do well there actually if given a chance. But then I could see them potentially hiring some of the talent and not doing anything with them just to show how little TNA meant to them overall.

Apparently Ultimate X is kicking off BFG tonight. Don't know if that's a mistake or not. It'll be a great way to fire up the crowd, but there's more potential for them to die out as the show goes on if the matches aren't any good.

I'd have put it at around halfway - it's the one match most seem to be looking forward to, so at least you might keep a bit of momentum going for the main event.
JCR
21-10-2013
The most interesting WWE/TNA thing could be if Jesse Sorensen sues TNA over the broken neck, presumably WWE might have to step in and pay Sorensen off, if it looks like the 'wrestlers are independent contractors' deal gets threatened.
ItHasPotential
21-10-2013
Not just wwe, every promotion around the world
FMKK
21-10-2013
How hard would it really have been to have AJ feud with Aces and 8s for a couple of months and run through them like Orton ran through Nexus in 2011 during his feud with Punkk? Then he could've went to Bound For Glory and beat Bully for the title one on one. It would've been totally logical. But now the whole thing is about Dixie Carter who cannot act. Poor booking.

Plus, with the stories about last night's attendance doing the rounds, I'm worried about TNA right now.

https://twitter.com/KayfabeNews/stat...885568/photo/1
JasonWatkins
21-10-2013
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“https://twitter.com/KayfabeNews/stat...885568/photo/1”

There's a possibility that could have been taken pre-show i suppose, which would account for the empty seats, but if it's during the main show then it's just shocking - real worrying stuff.
DejaVoodoo
21-10-2013
TNA usually put all of the fans on the side opposite of the main camera and leave the camera side largely empty. This photo was taken looking at the main camera side.

Supposedly, they had about 3,000 to 3.500 people there last night.
seamus_guin
21-10-2013
Originally Posted by DejaVoodoo:
“TNA usually put all of the fans on the side opposite of the main camera and leave the camera side largely empty. This photo was taken looking at the main camera side.

Supposedly, they had about 3,000 to 3.500 people there last night.”

Correct im watching it now,and from the camera view it appears fairly full,id say in reality the arena is 40% full,i hope TNA make some changes it would be a disaster for wrestling if they went under.
Old.Tallen
21-10-2013
Originally Posted by DejaVoodoo:
“TNA usually put all of the fans on the side opposite of the main camera and leave the camera side largely empty. This photo was taken looking at the main camera side.

Supposedly, they had about 3,000 to 3.500 people there last night.”

For their premier PPV thats utterly wretched.
Old.Tallen
21-10-2013
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“How hard would it really have been to have AJ feud with Aces and 8s for a couple of months and run through them like Orton ran through Nexus in 2011 during his feud with Punkk? Then he could've went to Bound For Glory and beat Bully for the title one on one. It would've been totally logical. But now the whole thing is about Dixie Carter who cannot act. Poor booking.

Plus, with the stories about last night's attendance doing the rounds, I'm worried about TNA right now.

https://twitter.com/KayfabeNews/stat...885568/photo/1”

Story wise they have really lost the plot, aces and eights has petered out to a whimper, main event mafia is almost completely absent now.....Kurt Angle returns and goes after Roode? what the hell are they playing at?

Hogans departure was a joke, but at least it was recognised, unlike all the other roster wrestlers who were simply let go with many story threads either left hanging or hastily ended and ended badly.

The constant exposition filler is also starting i grate on my nerves, we had about 20 minutes all up of BFG preview bull crap last night, it's completely overboard. They need to tighten up and reduce the show to one hour to match the roster.
FMKK
21-10-2013
Originally Posted by DejaVoodoo:
“TNA usually put all of the fans on the side opposite of the main camera and leave the camera side largely empty. This photo was taken looking at the main camera side.

Supposedly, they had about 3,000 to 3.500 people there last night.”

Thats fine if they have 3,000-4,000 or so fans there but why book a 12,000 seat arena? Surely they'd be better with a smaller venue that they could realistically try to fill.
seamus_guin
21-10-2013
Im just after watching the x-division match and i have to say they robbed the fans with that ending,it was disgraceful....i wont say anymore,but the product can be saved they have better young wrestlers than the wwe.

God i miss wCw!!!
wallace howitt
21-10-2013
3.500 is poor for the biggest ppv of the year. Why do tna go to the big arenas they must know they won't sell them out. All the big city's have smaller arenas which tna could run. On the same campus as the one Bfg was held there is the jenny craig pavilion which holds 5000 perfect for tna.
FMKK
21-10-2013
Originally Posted by wallace howitt:
“3.500 is poor for the biggest ppv of the year. Why do tna go to the big arenas they must know they won't sell them out. All the big city's have smaller arenas which tna could run. On the same campus as the one Bfg was held there is the jenny craig pavilion which holds 5000 perfect for tna.”

See, their strategies really do confuse me at times. Perhaps they booked the arena ages in advance in the hope that taking Impact on the road would grow the fan base but that just didn't happen. I don't get why they don't just run their TV tapings in a few venues in Florida and maybe Georgia like an old territory would. That would reduce cost and they wouldn't have to be in the Impact Zone all the time.
JasonWatkins
21-10-2013
It must be demoralising for the talent as well. You go out to the ring to work a dangerous match like Ultimate X and you glance to your right to see a half empty arena.

If I was in charge and I knew that the arena didn't stand a chance of selling out, which they surely must have known, i'd have run some local promotions to give away the remaining tickets - maybe to local schools and colleges.

Forget selling each and every seat, just give away the ones that didn't sell to pack the arena out.
ags_rule
21-10-2013
Originally Posted by wallace howitt:
“3.500 is poor for the biggest ppv of the year. Why do tna go to the big arenas they must know they won't sell them out. All the big city's have smaller arenas which tna could run. On the same campus as the one Bfg was held there is the jenny craig pavilion which holds 5000 perfect for tna.”

The thing is that TNA attendance is totally unpredictable. Let's not forget that they drew 10,000 fans for Slammiversary, their second biggest PPV, so booking a 15,000 seat arena for Bound For Glory was not an entirely foolish idea.

The problem is that the card was rubbish and the build was just as bad. Instead of the A&E being at the zenith of their powers at the PPV, like nWo were at Starrcade 1997, they were practically completely destroyed in the months running up to the PPV. Styles was no longer the 'lone wolf against the pack', it was just a simple 1 v 1 match with a stable on Bully's side who have been booked weakly for months now. Even worse, Bully's reign was foolishly interrupted by Sabin's short title reign, which makes Styles winning (or not) feel much less important.

I have defended TNA to the hilt over the past few years but the birth of the A&E - who have now dominated storylines for a year and a half - marked the point TNA went on a downward spiral I don't know they'll recover from. For Dixie it's all sticking plasters and get-rich-quick schemes to fix things, which only makes it worse. People said ratings were bad under Russo - TNA was comfortably drawing 1.2 ratings or higher. Their rating for the GO-HOME SHOW OF THE BIGGEST PPV OF THE YEAR was a 0.84.
FMKK
21-10-2013
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“The thing is that TNA attendance is totally unpredictable. Let's not forget that they drew 10,000 fans for Slammiversary, their second biggest PPV, so booking a 15,000 seat arena for Bound For Glory was not an entirely foolish idea.

The problem is that the card was rubbish and the build was just as bad. Instead of the A&E being at the zenith of their powers at the PPV, like nWo were at Starrcade 1997, they were practically completely destroyed in the months running up to the PPV. Styles was no longer the 'lone wolf against the pack', it was just a simple 1 v 1 match with a stable on Bully's side who have been booked weakly for months now. Even worse, Bully's reign was foolishly interrupted by Sabin's short title reign, which makes Styles winning (or not) feel much less important.

I have defended TNA to the hilt over the past few years but the birth of the A&E - who have now dominated storylines for a year and a half - marked the point TNA went on a downward spiral I don't know they'll recover from. For Dixie it's all sticking plasters and get-rich-quick schemes to fix things, which only makes it worse. People said ratings were bad under Russo - TNA was comfortably drawing 1.2 ratings or higher. Their rating for the GO-HOME SHOW OF THE BIGGEST PPV OF THE YEAR was a 0.84.”

TNA were getting into a pretty good groove at the end of 2009 when AJ won the title but then Hogan came in and that was all scrapped. Since then it's been sub-WCW stable wars all the way and we'll probably get more of that when Dixie gets a few henchmen.

They just had to keep A&8 strong over the summer, have AJ cut promos about how he's taking TNA back alone, have him take them all out one by one and get the title. He would look awesome, it would have covered weeks of TV and they could've still been getting rid of the bikers as they have been.
LongBallPlease
21-10-2013
The booking is awful in TNA and has being for a while, they really need to have a good hard look at themselves and PLAN for the future from top to bottom, build some fresh stars and build some FRESH FUEDS, a lot is wrong with TNA, they need to be downsizing to get bigger imo, it's a shame cos when they went on the road things were looking optomistic, stop start booking doesn't help.
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