Great posts seibu.
You've injected a very welcome tone of common sense into a discussion that was fast becoming rather hysterical and fanciful.

Seems to me that whatever TNA does at the moment they'll get hammered by the press / internet / forums. It'll probably pass. There are so many stories about backstage shenanigans, pay rates, alleged discontent amongst the ring talent etc etc.

Probably wisely TNA seem to be ignoring the bad press they're getting and just carrying on. Whether we agree with the direction of the shows, the use of the talent etc etc is our opinion, as it's always been. But for now, I'm not taking much notice of all the rumours...

It feels like to me when David Lagana started on creative, the show quality (for me) went up. Storylines started making more sense and had longer arcs, not just quick hot shorter payoffs. There have been some episodes I've really enjoyed recently. Ignoring the Thanksgiving and Christmas fillers its hard to think of a show that's been bad.

Seibu is right in that TNA did everything fans were clamouring for them to do, then got turned upon when they did them.

It depends on where you go for your information. There's only a few places that have legitmate information. The rest either make stuff up or try and spin the major sites news as their own and add things to it.


TNA's audience is happy to watch a free show, but not buy anything from the company. Thus hence the reduced house show schedule. Thus hence the reduced PPV show schedule. That stuff is visual. You can see it. TNA aren't cutting back on these things for fun. I don't understand how this is hard to grasp unless you're some hardcore fan in denial.


Even if you don't believe the numbers, TNA's reduction in PPV and house show schedule back up the fact that these revenue streams aren't successful.


The main sites on the whole that I've seen aren't overly critical of TNA. Meltzer and Alvarez are pretty fair. TNA does something good, they'll say so. If they do something bad, they'll say so. There's no point in talking up TNA for the sake of it.


It's up to you if you don't want to believe it or not. Many of the bottom end guys aren't getting paid a alot. This is the same company that refused to pay for Zema Ion's medical bills when he had a bowel cancer scare. The situation with Jesse Sorensen etc.

http://www.f4wonline.com/more/more-t...pots-interview


Well it must not work as I've seen a ton of negative stuff about WWE over the years about things they've done and about the quality of their shows. It's not exclusive to TNA.


Sting in a gym???? I never heard that story. Who reported it?

If you want to get inside information, go to the main places and not the sites that I've mentioned before. It's amazing the amount of stuff that gets attributed to a guy like Meltzer and he's never said anything close to it.

Anyway thoughts on Impact????

I see Wes Brisco and Jay Bradley have been released.

3 ppvs now. Genesis didn't air as a PPV. They're left with Lockdown, Slammiversary and Bound For Glory (maybe, and I mean it in the sense that they could easily scrap Slammiversary and put it for free on Spike as an Impact episode, we don't know. Lockdown is official for April 9th).

ah right

dont get me wrong, i want TNA to do well but dixie is making her fair share of mistakes too, poor business mind perhaps.

TNA is kicking off the new year with a new beginning as, for the first time ever, the Genesis event will be broadcast as TWO episodes of TNA IMPACT WRESTLING.

Tune into Challenge TV on Sunday January 19 and Sunday January 26 at the regular time of 9pm for Genesis.

Both Genesis episodes will feature your favorite TNA superstars competing in high-stakes matches

what show is on tonight?

Hardcore Justice @ 22:00! (after the footy)

Nearly halfway through Hardcore Justice and it's been rather run of the mill so far.
Hope the second half improves.

Dixie is apparently promising new talent at the Genesis show and her Twitter gives a hint of who some of them will be if you fancy a spoiler.

It was interesting though, it could have slotted naturally right in after last sundays Impact and act as a precurser to Genesis. In other words it wasn't hopelessly out of date like the recent one night only's.

they should have had magnus beat aj clean

Apart from the BroMans / Dewie Barnes segment (which was boring & cringeworthy as f**k) it wasn't bad viewing IMO!

I agree that lots of these things didn't work out. My argument was that they were logical decisions at the time they were made.

I don't think TNA is badly run; I think trying to expand a national pro wrestling outfit in the US right now is an impossible mission. I also think there's is a pattern of the internet urging TNA to do something, and then when they do it, they get slated for it.

need toc hange ring ripes back to red

blue ropes is synonymous with B show.

I think the observation about TNA's US audience not wanting to pay for the product is a good one. I imagine without WWE-style production values, there's a certain section of the audience you can't appeal to, and perhaps that section are also the ones most likely to spend.

I know it's common knowledge that TNA don't offer blanket health coverage. Probably they should, *if* they can afford it. Maybe they can't? But these stories about that, and people (allegedly) not getting paid much seem like a non-event to me. They are a small company - nobody's denying that.

By "Sting in a Gym" I meant the story (and pic) about him performing at that small TNA house show recently. Who reported it is a good question! I don't know where it came from originally. I noticed that story and pic cropped up on loads of forums and newsletters at the same time. I thought it was a total non-story to be honest. TNA play small house shows - we know this. So what?

I just wonder where the TNA FUD stories that get passed around each week come from. A news story is an angle; it's not objective, it spins facts (or rumour) a certain way. I'm not alleging a conspiracy, but it seems every week there's more TNA FUD, some of it of dubious credibility, and all with a relentlessly negative spin.

Oh yeah, Impact. I liked the run-in laden main event on Sunday. It was exciting and told a coherent story. I wish I hadn't already known the outcome. Stupid internet!

I know it's an old complaint, but I'd like to see more of the roster each week on Impact. More Samuel Shaw and Aries please.

Hhmmmm .. they appear to have taped an angle where ..

http://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/h...67890485_n.jpg

287 supposedly.

Bloody hell, that's grim.

Not a fan of TNA by any means, however seeing that size crowd is sad.

Well that's obviously the sign of a well run, successful company isn't it

One positive for TNA though is the Impact/genesis show did a 1.1, so it must have had some curiosity with AJ.

Considering how strongly they booked him on the way out, they better have resigned him.

for every one of those pictures circulated, there are probably 2 or 3 more from other house shows that sell well - I read a report from one recently that estimated over 1000 in attendance.

Suppose it's just another example of the self-appointed "IWC" using whatever they can to bash TNA

I know what you mean Jason, not all house shows are badly attended, but this picture shows a terribly thin audience in a venue that looks like it could hold ten times the number of attendees. I'm not trying to bash TNA, but however you look at it that's a serious miscalculation on TNA's part in booking the right venue for the right probable audience.
Worst of all it must be terribly demoralising for the wrestlers to come out and perform to so many empty seats.