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Old 29-01-2014, 00:22
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Cool. Thanks loads for the info. What a surprise the "TNA have lost Universal" newz turned out to be false.

Really enjoyed most of Impact this week. I thought the Sting run-in fest was too soon after the AJ run-in fest. But Roode \ Angle was just great old school storytelling. Angle's cage moonsaults are like love letters to the business.

Also, Impact US TV ratings significantly up, I believe.
They could still lose Orlando after this set of tapings. NBCU are apparently negotiating the physical Hall Of Fame with Universal Studios to sweeten their WWE licensing deal. Obviously not saying it will happen, but it could.

I thought Genesis 2 was quite good actually. That missed moonsault off the top of the cage looked good.
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Old 29-01-2014, 09:58
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But surely that guy is taking the piss?

Isn't he?
Note the stated location of the man that wrote in, Anyone ever hear of anyone from Kings Lynn before?
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Old 29-01-2014, 10:04
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Tna need cm punk and some shoot promos.
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Old 29-01-2014, 10:12
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My son and I were discussing the New investor the other day, and he came up with a theory.
He suggested that the investor could be Desmond Wolfe.
This is because the new tag team are called The Wolves, and they said "The Wolves are coming" or something like that on a promo. It would also be a tie in to Magnus being TNA Champ (obviously both British and it could lead to a "Disrespecting your country" type storyline.
Thirdly the fact that the investor is being revealed in UK, with it being more of an impact here than the US, also MVP being "revealed" (pardon the pun) in the UK just doesn't make sense.
As Judge Judy often says, "If it doesn't make sense, it's not true"
What do you think?
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Old 29-01-2014, 10:35
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The crowds here are hot and will pop for debuts unlike the states
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Old 29-01-2014, 10:49
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Yeah, Meltzer has said the Russo thing isn't true. I am sad.
WHY DID YOU GET MY HOPES UP?!
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Old 29-01-2014, 12:35
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WOW....I was expecting this thread to be busier with the uk tour...

Checked ticket master for tickets and none are available for glasgow,so either the shows sold out or most of the arena is closed..

Anyone have any ideas on attendance for the glasgow show?
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Old 30-01-2014, 02:11
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My son and I were discussing the New investor the other day, and he came up with a theory.
He suggested that the investor could be Desmond Wolfe.
This is because the new tag team are called The Wolves, and they said "The Wolves are coming" or something like that on a promo. It would also be a tie in to Magnus being TNA Champ (obviously both British and it could lead to a "Disrespecting your country" type storyline.
Thirdly the fact that the investor is being revealed in UK, with it being more of an impact here than the US, also MVP being "revealed" (pardon the pun) in the UK just doesn't make sense.
As Judge Judy often says, "If it doesn't make sense, it's not true"
What do you think?
McGuinness hates TNA (he directly blames them for his Hepatitis) and plus he's under contract with ROH. Not happening.
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Old 30-01-2014, 02:19
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Cool. Thanks loads for the info. What a surprise the "TNA have lost Universal" newz turned out to be false.

Really enjoyed most of Impact this week. I thought the Sting run-in fest was too soon after the AJ run-in fest. But Roode \ Angle was just great old school storytelling. Angle's cage moonsaults are like love letters to the business.

Also, Impact US TV ratings significantly up, I believe.
The news about Orlando wasn't false at the time, they're changing the schedule to tape the shows (plus, and I didn't notice this, with AJ booked pretty much all weekends it definitely looks like he won't be back anytime soon 'cause he'd miss a ton of shows), effectively eliminating house shows and constantly having to set up shop and dismantle everything after they're done. What they want is a permanent home, they can't go on the road anymore 'cause they can't afford to tape on the road in the US (when they don't draw). It's good that they found this solution, but there are now reports in entertainment media that NBC offered to host the WWE Hall of Fame physical building in Universal Studios in Orlando...and you know that if that happens, TNA is getting kicked out of there and they're back to square one as far as finding a home is concerned. Add to all this the fact that Spike is in negotiations with WWE (effectively showing Spike is ready to ditch TNA if they get them) and their situation is still not good. It's a little bit better but still not good. Rating was up last week, but they started strong (1.42) and ended very poorly (1.14). The lead-in show did higher than usual and that lead-in helped Impact's final tally but they lost viewers as the show went on. Still, good result (best in a year).
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Old 30-01-2014, 10:35
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terrible impact, quite boring

no fan reaction to anything

silence greeted end to magnus/sting

i hope he goes wwe, he deserves a proper send off.
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Old 30-01-2014, 13:33
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terrible impact, quite boring

no fan reaction to anything

silence greeted end to magnus/sting

i hope he goes wwe, he deserves a proper send off.
You thought Angle / Roode was boring???
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Old 30-01-2014, 13:55
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You thought Angle / Roode was boring???
yeh, been a boring fued, just cos 2 good wrestlers dont mean its interesting. great moonsault and all that but the entire match was fast fwd fodder.

even things they do well are ruined by terrible crowd reactions. roster is decimated.
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Old 30-01-2014, 14:07
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yeh, been a boring fued, just cos 2 good wrestlers dont mean its interesting. great moonsault and all that but the entire match was fast fwd fodder.

even things they do well are ruined by terrible crowd reactions. roster is decimated.
You're kidding me? Maybe you should stop watching wrestling if you're fast forwarding a match like that. You're telling me there wasn't a crowd reaction? For the moonsault? For the finish? I'd take a look if your TV volume is broken.
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Old 30-01-2014, 14:14
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You're kidding me? Maybe you should stop watching wrestling if you're fast forwarding a match like that. You're telling me there wasn't a crowd reaction? For the moonsault? For the finish? I'd take a look if your TV volume is broken.
dont get so worked up, you keep focussing on 1 match,i am focussing on 2 hour tv show.

i didnt say that match had no reaction,and i singled out the moonsault myself.

this is not an appreication thread, i did not like this weeks show,i am allowed to state my opinion without being told to stop watching.
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Old 30-01-2014, 14:37
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dont get so worked up, you keep focussing on 1 match,i am focussing on 2 hour tv show.

i didnt say that match had no reaction,and i singled out the moonsault myself.

this is not an appreication thread, i did not like this weeks show,i am allowed to state my opinion without being told to stop watching.
I'm not worked up

You said:

no fan reaction to anything
And I would argue that there was a fan reaction to Roode / Angle (I also thought there was fan reaction to other parts of the show too, actually).

I didn't mean to suggest you weren't entitled to your opinion, sorry if it came across like that.
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Old 30-01-2014, 15:33
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And I would argue that there was a fan reaction to Roode / Angle (I also thought there was fan reaction to other parts of the show too, actually).

I didn't mean to suggest you weren't entitled to your opinion, sorry if it came across like that.
Seems to me that some weeks we get a lot of audience noise, but some weeks we don't - do they sometimes put mics into the crowd, and sometimes not?

Generally it always looks like the crowd is quite lively, but we don't always hear it via the TV though. If I was the producer I'd want to amp up the crowd noise as much as possible - regardless of the quality of the wrestling it usually comes across like a far more exciting show if we can hear the crowd.
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Old 30-01-2014, 15:43
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sorry if i snapped seibu

the crowd look like hillbillies most of the time, i mean imagine bad influence in wwe? they would get huge laughs i think, saying that they would be fueding with los materodres on superstars too.

i just dont know what dixie partys plan is

either

hire russo and go all out crash tv,dont listen to backstage politicians and change course every 6 months

or go with wrestling based booking and try be like roh and put on great matches, dont change course every 6 months!

or sell

right now it just looks like cost cutting and no real identity.
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Old 30-01-2014, 16:05
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Maybe the problem with the crowds is that they are there for ages if multiple shows are taped so they start to lose enthusiasm towards the end. Do they change the crowds during tapings?

Is the Glasgow show being shown live tonight on Challenge?

I agree with Whedon247 that TNA just lacks spark at the moment. Hopefully the investor thing will usher in some fresh wrestlers to kill this Dixie story (please no stable wars) and give the show a bit of spark.
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Old 30-01-2014, 16:05
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sorry if i snapped seibu

the crowd look like hillbillies most of the time, i mean imagine bad influence in wwe? they would get huge laughs i think, saying that they would be fueding with los materodres on superstars too.

i just dont know what dixie partys plan is

either

hire russo and go all out crash tv,dont listen to backstage politicians and change course every 6 months

or go with wrestling based booking and try be like roh and put on great matches, dont change course every 6 months!

or sell

right now it just looks like cost cutting and no real identity.
Yeah, sorry. I was being a bit aggressive. All those question marks!

I've no idea what the plan is going forward. The weird thing is that nothing seems to affect their ratings by very much. That makes it hard for them to know what to do.

I strongly suspect the Carters have decided that the company has to break even from now on, and I get the feeling the books are still being balanced. So we can expect anyone highly paid to disappear when they're due to renew their contract, unless they'll accept a pay cut.

Also, it's been shown that live vs taped doesn't make a difference to ratings, and neither does being on the road. So we can probably expect mostly taped shows from a fixed location.

It looks like they're moving back to having more live PPVs. I suspect they were actually turning a small profit.

In terms of creative direction, car crash TV has overall seemed to do slightly better ratings than high quality wrestling, so we'll probably see more of that.

Those are my total guesses and speculation.
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Old 30-01-2014, 16:16
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I'm not even sure that it's car crash TV putting up the ratings or whether it's just because they're promoting big matches the week ahead. Both the Sting and AJ title matches were made the week before and gave fans something to look forward to. That sort of week to week booking works a treat for NXT and I think TNA should continue in that vien, keeping it simple. They clearly have a solid base of support that will tune in no matter what so they just need to sort out the financial situation before there is any real chance to branch out again.
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Old 30-01-2014, 16:30
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i do like this new invester stuff. lets hope they dont drop ball because A&8 were great for a few months
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Old 30-01-2014, 16:44
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Is the Glasgow show being shown live tonight on Challenge?
TNA is on Challenge at 9pm tonight. I assume it'll be live from Glasgow.
Is this the first time the UK have had a show earlier than the US?
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Old 30-01-2014, 16:47
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A&8 would've been fine as an upper midcard stable I think, though Bully himself is good as a top heel. It went on too long and the reveals were weak. TNA could do with a 3 year moratorium on man event stables tbh.
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Old 30-01-2014, 16:52
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TNA is on Challenge at 9pm tonight. I assume it'll be live from Glasgow.
Is this the first time the UK have had a show earlier than the US?
Has the TiVo Guide updated on Virgin Media? The TV Guide app this morning was showing double "Who Wants to be a Millionaire?" followed by "TNA: Unfinished Business" at 11pm.
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Old 30-01-2014, 19:09
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I'm not even sure that it's car crash TV putting up the ratings or whether it's just because they're promoting big matches the week ahead. Both the Sting and AJ title matches were made the week before and gave fans something to look forward to. That sort of week to week booking works a treat for NXT and I think TNA should continue in that vien, keeping it simple. They clearly have a solid base of support that will tune in no matter what so they just need to sort out the financial situation before there is any real chance to branch out again.
For last week's ratings jump the reason was the lead-in that preceded Impact. They started very strong with 1.4 millions and left more and more viewers as the show went on. Main event did the 2nd worst quarter hour of the night.
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