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Old 01-02-2014, 13:23
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Punk will be free at some point maybe, now that would turn some heads, punk v angle or hardy would be great.

Break the bank make it happen
Yeah because that would be right when they've put the pay of people that made the company what it is/was and people like AJ walk out.
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Old 01-02-2014, 13:29
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Yeah because that would be right when they've put the pay of people that made the company what it is/was and people like AJ walk out.
It's what they have done for 5-6 years now why bother changing?

Angle killed Samoa joes push, joe was brilliant one of the reasons I started watching tna they then brought Angle in and well look what happened. Hogan nearly killed the company.

AJ walked out cause they didn't want to pay him not because of who they brought in
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Old 01-02-2014, 13:32
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It's what they have done for 5-6 years now why bother changing?

Angle killed Samoa joes push, joe was brilliant one of the reasons I started watching tna they then brought Angle in and well look what happened. Hogan nearly killed the company.

AJ walked out cause they didn't want to pay him not because of who they brought in
It wasn't because they didn't want to pay him I would assume, more due to the fact they couldn't pay him.

Just because they've screwed originals for big names in the past, doesn't mean it should continue. You can pay people like Hogan all the money in the world, ultimately the only brand he's interested in pushing is Brand Hogan.
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Old 01-02-2014, 13:39
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Difference is Punk may increase ratings unlike the others. It's very unlikely to happen though it was just a talking point.

Nothing to do about who's paying who what, or who or who hasn't been screwed in the past.
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Old 01-02-2014, 13:42
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Difference is Punk may increase ratings unlike the others. It's very unlikely to happen though it was just a talking point.

Nothing to do about who's paying who what who or who hasn't even screwed in the past.
Why? How many former WWE stars have joined TNA and it hasn't worked. The biggest name the industry ever had in Hogan didn't work.
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Old 01-02-2014, 13:45
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Cause hogan was a past it waste of space.

I get it u think it would be a bad idea lets move on
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Old 01-02-2014, 15:07
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I was just continuing the talking point/discussion you started.

Jesus people in this forum get touchy
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Old 01-02-2014, 15:14
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Who is MVP? Am I supposed to recognise him?
That's what I wondered when I saw him in Thursdays ep.
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Old 01-02-2014, 16:42
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I know I come across and anti-TNA but really I'm not. If I'm anything, I'm anti-TNA-today.

I was a 13/14 year old when I started watching TNA weekly PPVs on The Wrestling Channel. I loved what TNA was back then, fresh and exciting wrestlers giving high paced action.

Just for me personally, the production values of Thursdays show didn't show an improvement on TWC. It just looked minor league. They pulled a bloody good crowd though, as they always do in the UK.

I've laid out my points against TNA and their decisions, the main one is factions of ex-WWE guys trying to take over the show as heels. Dixie Carter is a heel, but I don't dislike her because of her heel character, I dislike her because she can't act her character.

I'm proud that the little company that launched all those years ago has become a national company, that can pull in a crowd like the UK one in Glasgow and for me at least, I can't fault the majority of the in-ring work which is great for the most part, it's the storylines that lead to the matches I find myself disliking.

Again, it's just personal to me, I just feel sad for the people that work their arses off that their work in the ring isn't complimented by great writing and storylines.

To be clear, I truly want TNA to succeed, even when being in the process of buying shares in WWE, because lack of competition leads to a higher level of complacency on WWE's part. I don't want the company that was an alternative to fail, but at the same time I don't want it to become a pale imitation of a WWE brand.

I really am a fan lol.
Okay I feel bad now!

I started watching TNA purely because it turned up on Challenge. I think it's had good and bad phases since then. I don't think the writing is universally bad, but I agree it's been bad at times.

I honestly couldn't believe the hostility to TNA when I started reading wrestling forums, and I guess that's made me a bit defensive of the promotion, so sorry about that.

The thing that's annoyed me (not saying you do this) is trying to discuss Impact on its merits, but finding the conversation derailed by "LOL TNA" "What does it matter, it's TNA", "Meltzer says TNA a few weeks from bankruptcy" etc. Again, not saying this applies to you, but that's why sometimes I can't help jumping in to defend it.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I really agree about WWE needing competition. Monday Night Wars saved the industry IMO.
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Old 01-02-2014, 17:41
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I was just continuing the talking point/discussion you started.

Jesus people in this forum get touchy
I wasn't starting a discussion I just posted something I would like to see
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Old 01-02-2014, 17:58
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Okay I feel bad now!

I started watching TNA purely because it turned up on Challenge. I think it's had good and bad phases since then. I don't think the writing is universally bad, but I agree it's been bad at times.

I honestly couldn't believe the hostility to TNA when I started reading wrestling forums, and I guess that's made me a bit defensive of the promotion, so sorry about that.

The thing that's annoyed me (not saying you do this) is trying to discuss Impact on its merits, but finding the conversation derailed by "LOL TNA" "What does it matter, it's TNA", "Meltzer says TNA a few weeks from bankruptcy" etc. Again, not saying this applies to you, but that's why sometimes I can't help jumping in to defend it.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I really agree about WWE needing competition. Monday Night Wars saved the industry IMO.
There's no need to feel bad. If there's one thing I've learnt since posting on this forum, it's that I don't put my points across as well in print as I do in person.

For what it's worth, I don't think TNA is doomed to failure but a lot of work is needed and they can do it. They need a wrestling person at the top I think. I'm sure Dixie is a lovely woman, but she doesn't scream wrestling woman to me.

Without the war, I don't think the industry would be anything like it is now. And by that I mean it would still be a small thing.
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Old 01-02-2014, 18:00
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I wasn't starting a discussion I just posted something I would like to see
Oh with you posting:

"Difference is Punk may increase ratings unlike the others. It's very unlikely to happen though it was just a talking point."

I thought it was a discussion/talking point. Apologies for the confusion.
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Old 01-02-2014, 18:27
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Oh with you posting:

"Difference is Punk may increase ratings unlike the others. It's very unlikely to happen though it was just a talking point."

I thought it was a discussion/talking point. Apologies for the confusion.
No worries batman
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Old 01-02-2014, 19:42
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Punk ain't going to TNA. He was making big money in WWE and TNA aren't/can't give him a similar contract.

The Manchester crowd looked alright. Although it looked like more empty seats than previous years.
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Old 01-02-2014, 23:49
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Well I'm happily in bed now in the Wembley ibis and whilst I wish I could have afforded to stay in the hilton with the talent I was happy with the show tonight. Perhaps a little promo heavy but let's face it, when the crowd are having a proper punch up any storyline violence is going to play second fiddle whatever the promotion!
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Old 02-02-2014, 06:03
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Right now they can't even contemplate the thought of being considered competition. What TNA need is a smart workaholic boss that breathes wrestling 24/7 and works about 18 hours a day, 7 days a week for about 10 years building up the business.

Yes they might get the odd star and many WWE rejects, but the WWE machine will always be creating new superstars.
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Old 02-02-2014, 19:40
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I presume tonight's episode on Challenge is a repeat of Thursday's show.
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:06
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If TNA really are expecting him to do a cage match at Lockdown when he needs knee surgery and apparently is using a wheelchair, then that is appalling. Dixie's PR bullshit statements when he went to rehab are looking pretty hollow now.
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:11
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If TNA really are expecting him to do a cage match at Lockdown when he needs knee surgery and apparently is using a wheelchair, then that is appalling. Dixie's PR bullshit statements when he went to rehab are looking pretty hollow now.
This basically. Doesn't Angle want to work the match though?
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:21
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This basically. Doesn't Angle want to work the match though?
Apparently not, rumours suggest there was a screaming match between him and booker John Gaburick at the Manchester taping.
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Old 04-02-2014, 04:30
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Apparently not, rumours suggest there was a screaming match between him and booker John Gaburick at the Manchester taping.
Well in that case he should tell em to stick it and get himself healthy
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Old 05-02-2014, 18:48
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Did anyone at the Wembley show see what caused the scuffle amongst the crowd in the floor seats opposite the entrance ramp?
I was sat there last year and did get peed off with the two guys infront who refused to sit down, found it much better up in the tiered seating this year - I must be getting old!
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Old 05-02-2014, 19:19
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Gave the shows a miss this year however next year Wembley is calling, isn't next year the year Jeff can in theory be in the uk?
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:15
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Punk ain't going to TNA. He was making big money in WWE and TNA aren't/can't give him a similar contract.

The Manchester crowd looked alright. Although it looked like more empty seats than previous years.
According to a few things i've read, Punk has been fairly frugal with his "big money" so he wouldn't really need a similar contract in TNA. If he did go there, and it's a massive, massive IF, i think it would be more about what they would do with him creatively.
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Old 06-02-2014, 10:34
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i love how if TNA doesnt overtake wwe in ratings it means a wrestler arrival didnt work and should never be attempted again


we are fans not majority shareholders. if punk isnt going back to wwe the majority of fans should want him in TNA so we can still see him. who cares if he gets ratings up or not?
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