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TNA Wrestling on Challenge TV (Part 2)
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FMKK
23-09-2014
Any news on the Aires and Kim contracts? They'll have quite a lack of star power if this TV deal is a big downgrade and they have to cut even more people. The last few Impacts have been promising but there's not much by way of storyline and nothing built for BFG so it's kinda like they're in a holding pattern until they got something long-term sorted.
seibu
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“I imagine it's a good will gesture because they know TNA will be done if they can't find a new channel. Spike obviously wanted TNA to do well or they wouldn't have put as much money into them.

There are rumours Spike wanted to purchase a controlling stake in TNA (51%) and gave them until the end 2014 so the negotiations to purchase didn't have to be rushed. They've apparently cooled off on the idea of buying TNA and Dixie was against it anyway.”

Looking at how Spike have tried to cross-promote TNA with Bellator, I definitely think the purchase rumor could be true. If it was just a goodwill gesture, a very conservative estimate (60k per impact) would mean Spike payed over $700k to be nice to TNA. I'm not sure I'd run my business that generously.

I'd like to see TNA bought from the Carters because it would immediately neutralize some of the internet hate. But I do wonder if TNA is actually a viable business nowadays without the Carter cash injections.
cris182
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by seibu:
“Looking at how Spike have tried to cross-promote TNA with Bellator, I definitely think the purchase rumor could be true. If it was just a goodwill gesture, a very conservative estimate (60k per impact) would mean Spike payed over $700k to be nice to TNA. I'm not sure I'd run my business that generously.

I'd like to see TNA bought from the Carters because it would immediately neutralize some of the internet hate. But I do wonder if TNA is actually a viable business nowadays without the Carter cash injections.”

Wasn't/Isn't there rumours that the Carters will only sell if the buyer agrees Dixie is allowed to keep power and is allowed to remain an on screen character. And this is basically why Jeff Jarrett started his own company rather than buying TNA back
Hollie_Louise
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by seibu:
“Looking at how Spike have tried to cross-promote TNA with Bellator, I definitely think the purchase rumor could be true. If it was just a goodwill gesture, a very conservative estimate (60k per impact) would mean Spike payed over $700k to be nice to TNA. I'm not sure I'd run my business that generously.

I'd like to see TNA bought from the Carters because it would immediately neutralize some of the internet hate. But I do wonder if TNA is actually a viable business nowadays without the Carter cash injections.”

Well you say that about the amount they gave to TNA, they paid the contracts of Hogan and Bischoff and got very little back in terms of a ratings boost so they obviously are happy to just hand money over to TNA lol.

If they did sell to anybody, you're talking somebody (IMO) who has Ted Turner money to really turn it around. Somebody who will literally hand money to them to secure contracts and production values. And what they really need is someone that understands the business, they don't need another Dixie.

They should have handed full creative control over to Heyman when they had the chance IMO.
Hollie_Louise
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by cris182:
“Wasn't/Isn't there rumours that the Carters will only sell if the buyer agrees Dixie is allowed to keep power and is allowed to remain an on screen character. And this is basically why Jeff Jarrett started his own company rather than buying TNA back”

I have seen that mentioned a few times yes.
MFKR78
23-09-2014
Originally Posted by Hollie_Louise:
“Well you say that about the amount they gave to TNA, they paid the contracts of Hogan and Bischoff and got very little back in terms of a ratings boost so they obviously are happy to just hand money over to TNA lol.

If they did sell to anybody, you're talking somebody (IMO) who has Ted Turner money to really turn it around. Somebody who will literally hand money to them to secure contracts and production values. And what they really need is someone that understands the business, they don't need another Dixie.

They should have handed full creative control over to Heyman when they had the chance IMO.”

Totally agree there, we can only dream what a Heyman driven TNA would have been like.

Long time poster back here myself, I flip-flop around companies a lot as I love pro wrestling so can't give it up but they each have their own frustrations. WWE is the juggernaut with the big budget productions but the lazy rinse and repeat booking and far too much over saturation of the market to keep up with. I love ROH and PWG but sometimes find myself missing companies I can watch on UK television and some of the less Indy elements though. TNA I would love but the sheer frustration at how many new beginnings and repeated mistakes kills me.

I recently enjoyed the product more than in a long time (since the NY tapings began) and finished Destination X on a high but then saw the Spike info and stopped watching rather than waste time if they were going to die. Now though I have read reports on the shows taped and seen the hopeful news coming on a new network and decided to go back to where I was up to. Just watched Dixie going through a table (dodgy bump or what!) And now started the August 14th episode so got some catching up to do!

Must say I miss Styles though and REALLY miss Bad Influence, but I like people like Aries, Hardy, The Wolves and am a huge fan of Bobby Roode too. I see promise in Storm having this new stable but fear people will claim they're now ripping off The Wyatt Family too. Also I think guys like Gunner and Sam Shaw have so much potential. Shaw is either pretty odd for real or a great actor! Also Bram has been awesome and has the IT factor for sure. The guy is pure intensity in the ring and surely a future star.

Look forward to talking iMPACT and catching up!
seibu
24-09-2014
Originally Posted by cris182:
“Wasn't/Isn't there rumours that the Carters will only sell if the buyer agrees Dixie is allowed to keep power and is allowed to remain an on screen character. And this is basically why Jeff Jarrett started his own company rather than buying TNA back”

Obviously I know as little as anyone else, but I'm kind of skeptical of that rumour. Firstly, I don't see how it could be legally enforceable. That would be one weird sale arrangement, that the new owners had to keep one person onscreen. There would be multiple ways to get around it I'd expect. Secondly, Dixie is not currently on screen anyway. Thirdly, it kind of feeds a bit too conveniently into the internet idea of Dixie (a 49 year old woman who everyone says is very nice) as a cartoonishly egotistical total moron, whose father is prepared to indulge to a pathological extent, which I personally don't buy.
DejaVoodoo
24-09-2014
Originally Posted by seibu:
“Obviously I know as little as anyone else, but I'm kind of skeptical of that rumour. Firstly, I don't see how it could be legally enforceable. That would be one weird sale arrangement, that the new owners had to keep one person onscreen. There would be multiple ways to get around it I'd expect. Secondly, Dixie is not currently on screen anyway. Thirdly, it kind of feeds a bit too conveniently into the internet idea of Dixie (a 49 year old woman who everyone says is very nice) as a cartoonishly egotistical total moron, whose father is prepared to indulge to a pathological extent, which I personally don't buy.”

1. You could put it in the sale contract. It is unusual. To me however what do you really get by buying TNA. The name has a toxic aspect to it. The talent roster has some good talent, but you don't want to just copy TNA as is. You want a fresh look and fresh talent rather than a rehash.

2. Dixie's injured at the minute after the table spot.

3. Its been done in many territories over the years when a company is heading down, the booker puts the owner/someone who signs the cheques on TV as its felt they'll be less likely to cancel the show.
SimonB79
25-09-2014
I watched no surrender last night & thought it was absolutely fantastic! 👍

The ladder match & Bobby vs Bobby!!!! WOW!!! 😎
JCR
25-09-2014
Wrestling Observer reports the 5 Impacts from 26th November to 31st December will be best of shows, with little or no new material; then TNA will relaunch on 7th January.
cris182
25-09-2014
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Wrestling Observer reports the 5 Impacts from 26th November to 31st December will be best of shows, with little or no new material; then TNA will relaunch on 7th January.”

If that is the case then i sense a lot of their viewers will not come back, And if they change networks then a lot of people will not even find them again

Could be a big problem this
Hollie_Louise
26-09-2014
Ratings back down to below 1m at 969,000 (down 141,000) and didn't make the top 100 cable shows.
whedon247
26-09-2014
tag series is amazing but why do wrestling companies book these series and 2/3 falls matches the same way? ( in terms of order of wins)

i havnt seen match 4 yet btw
Steveaustin316
26-09-2014
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“tag series is amazing but why do wrestling companies book these series and 2/3 falls matches the same way? ( in terms of order of wins)

i havnt seen match 4 yet btw”

The matches themselves were great, but It was obvious from the start that it would go the distance.
whedon247
26-09-2014
Originally Posted by Steveaustin316:
“The matches themselves were great, but It was obvious from the start that it would go the distance.”

no thats obvious i agree(i would love some shcoking booking where one team wins first 2 in a row one day)

but what i mean is that this series is set up to elevate the wolves, they will most prob win it. so why must the winners always win last 2 in a row?

please note i have NOT seen match 4 yet!
SimonB79
26-09-2014
Originally Posted by cris182:
“If that is the case then i sense a lot of their viewers will not come back, And if they change networks then a lot of people will not even find them again

Could be a big problem this”

Yep! ... The hiatus could potentially kill TNA! ... I hope they don't end up on some Mickey Mouse network that doesn't have the resources 2 do em justice! ... 🙏

(WWE need strong competition & the wrestlers need somewhere else to apply their trade!) 👍
whedon247
26-09-2014
tna did web only shows when they lost first tv deal, they survived.
adams66
29-09-2014
Thought last night's Impact on Challenge seemed like it was marking time. Some ok bouts - Airies, as ever, delivered the goods - but nothing spectacular, and nothing to push any of the ongoing stories.
I get the feeling that we'll see a fair bit more of this until TNA sorts out where it's going
JackFoley
03-10-2014
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“tna did web only shows when they lost first tv deal, they survived.”

They hadn't lost 60 million dollars though at the time.
Grouty
08-10-2014
Spike TVs coming to Freeview next year, to replace Viva :- http://www.televisual.com/news-detai..._nid-4694.html
hazydayz
08-10-2014
I wonder what programming they will have.
JasonWatkins
08-10-2014
Probably no TNA
JCR
09-10-2014
Wrestling Observer reports Wrestle 1 turned Tajiri heel last night, in the same building as he's got to play a main event face for TNA at Bound for Glory.

All together now- lol TNA.

Also said they've apparently offered CM Punk the same $35,000 a show Hogan was on, but I don't imagine holding your breath on that one is a good idea.
hazydayz
09-10-2014
Bound For Glory means nothing, half the roster wont be TNA, the TV has already been taped for the weeks following Bound For Glory so the main stuff will still be on Wednesday nights.
JasonWatkins
09-10-2014
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“Bound For Glory means nothing, half the roster wont be TNA, the TV has already been taped for the weeks following Bound For Glory so the main stuff will still be on Wednesday nights.”

You can't really blame them to be fair. They've taken the decision to concentrate on at least establishing some watchable television for the remainder of the year and pre-taping what they've got left with Spike, so BFG was always going to be a bit of a letdown.

They can't really start or finish any new angles on the show because they still don't know if they'll be in business next year.

That said, there do look to be some decent matches on BFG though.
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