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Old 14-02-2013, 02:17
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Well not quite but it seems all the Apple fans were right after all apparently oled screens are crap retina is simply the best. I imagine nothing to do with apples inability to source them

Fast cpus are rubbish its all about the "user experience" which Apple has got just right it seems. He doesn't want to be drawn into the spec/price war ... I bet he doesn't

I love it do you think he has been reading this forum ..Apple sounding a little spooked maybe

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...ys-apples-ceo/
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Old 14-02-2013, 02:30
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"What Apple does is sweat every little detail," he said. "We want the best display, and I think we got it."

Uhu...he might want to then explain why the 4 and 4S displays were absolutely rotten where the colour was miles off.
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Old 14-02-2013, 05:22
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Is he getting nervous about people not liking much a good ol' retina display that he needs to tell them that what they have is better, up is down, and left is right?
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Old 14-02-2013, 06:10
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Everything out of Cook's mouth lately seems to smack of desperation
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Old 14-02-2013, 06:54
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I guess taking over after Jobs sadly departed was always going to present the possibility of becoming a poisoned chalice. But I don't think he's covered himself in glory all the same.
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Old 14-02-2013, 07:45
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Tim cook is a Co*k

He just worried as apple are no longer innovating so he needs to try and diss other products so that hypnotized sheep still follow him
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Old 14-02-2013, 07:51
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Tim cook is a Co*k

He just worried as apple are no longer innovating so he needs to try and diss other products so that hypnotized sheep still follow him
The irritating thing is that Apple haven't done anything innovative, at least since the original iPhone. Everything else since has just been minor point iterations, nothing radical, nothing truly new.

To all intents and purposes, Apple was Steve Jobs. Like him or loathe him, he was the man with the vision of where he wanted the company to go, the quality he wanted every step of the way. Cook is a pretender and has nothing like the same imagination - he's just a bean counter, and its slowly starting to show.
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Old 14-02-2013, 07:56
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I do think he has a point. I'm no apple fanboy but if I have a phone I want more than just raw numbers given in a spec sheet that techno geeks seem to love. It's what they do with it that counts. However their UI is a bit outdated now. I suspect as a result of legacy and inflexible architecture.

I've also seen the S3 OLED display. It looks great but the colours are a bit too vivid to my taste to the point of being un-natural especially when compared to a non-oled screen.
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Old 14-02-2013, 08:15
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I do think he has a point. I'm no apple fanboy but if I have a phone I want more than just raw numbers given in a spec sheet that techno geeks seem to love. It's what they do with it that counts. However their UI is a bit outdated now. I suspect as a result of legacy and inflexible architecture.

I've also seen the S3 OLED display. It looks great but the colours are a bit too vivid to my taste to the point of being un-natural especially when compared to a non-oled screen.
But at least with the S3 you get several options of how you want the colours to look (I prefer the vivid setting and have it set to that).
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Old 14-02-2013, 08:16
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^^^ It's not so much about what looks realistic, but about what looks good. They put visual effects on films, they put film effects on TV programmes to "improve" them. A majority seems to prefer that, it's same with phone screens.
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Old 14-02-2013, 08:22
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But at least with the S3 you get several options of how you want the colours to look (I prefer the vivid setting and have it set to that).
I didn't know about this option. I'll take another look later when my mate comes into work. My personal preference is to have images look sharp and realistic.
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Old 14-02-2013, 08:31
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I've found I prefer the more natural look. I have a galaxy note with a super amoled HD display and a iPod touch 5th gen with the same screen as the iPhone 5. I find the galaxy note to be over saturated compared to the iPod. I think Cook makes a good point regarding specs particularly when it comes to Apple products. On paper they appear to be lacking but in real life use they can compete with the higher speced android devices (iPhone 5 bench mark tests). However Cook saying that what the iPhone 5 doesn't have is rubbish, is a load of cods wallap straight out of big daddy's mouth. If big daddy say you don't need it then you don't

I do think apple put a lot of thought into their products. I wish Samsung would do the same. Maybe their products wouldn't be so buggy if they did.
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Old 14-02-2013, 08:32
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OLED will be shit until apple says they are not shit and starts using them.

this is not exactly without precedent.
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Old 14-02-2013, 08:44
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I do think apple put a lot of thought into their products. I wish Samsung would do the same. Maybe their products wouldn't be so buggy if they did.
Endless iOS updates of updates beg to differ. Fix something, break something else. They may be good at producing shiny-shiny, but their software abilities are putting them down big time. Not mentioning iOS looks dated nowadays, it still looks mostly the same as it did years ago when I was flirting with Apple products.
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Old 14-02-2013, 08:50
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OLED will be shit until apple says they are not shit and starts using them.

this is not exactly without precedent.

Quoted for truth...
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Old 14-02-2013, 08:54
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I've found I prefer the more natural look. I have a galaxy note with a super amoled HD display and a iPod touch 5th gen with the same screen as the iPhone 5. I find the galaxy note to be over saturated compared to the iPod. I think Cook makes a good point regarding specs particularly when it comes to Apple products. On paper they appear to be lacking but in real life use they can compete with the higher speced android devices (iPhone 5 bench mark tests). However Cook saying that what the iPhone 5 doesn't have is rubbish, is a load of cods wallap straight out of big daddy's mouth. If big daddy say you don't need it then you don't

I do think apple put a lot of thought into their products. I wish Samsung would do the same. Maybe their products wouldn't be so buggy if they did.
recent software releases would suggest that iOS is as buggy - possibly worse

The days of Apple's elevated QC have passed. Premium prices no longer means premium product.
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Old 14-02-2013, 09:24
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I do think apple put a lot of thought into their products. I wish Samsung would do the same. Maybe their products wouldn't be so buggy if they did.
What bugs would these be? I had an S3 for ages and didnt find any....
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Old 14-02-2013, 09:32
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recent software releases would suggest that iOS is as buggy - possibly worse

The days of Apple's elevated QC have passed. Premium prices no longer means premium product.
My idevices don't switch themselves off, crash and reboot on a daily basis. I had my iPhone 4 for 2 years and an iPhone 3G for a year. I can count on less than one hand the number of times they crashed. I've lost count of the number of times my android devices have crashed, turned themselves off rebooted etc. I've had my iPod touch for almost 2 months and my ipad mini for a month. Not had any problems with them so far. I had problems
with my android devices straight away (note, nexus 7, galaxy tab).
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Old 14-02-2013, 09:51
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My idevices don't switch themselves off, crash and reboot on a daily basis. I had my iPhone 4 for 2 years and an iPhone 3G for a year. I can count on less than one hand the number of times they crashed. I've lost count of the number of times my android devices have crashed, turned themselves off rebooted etc. I've had my iPod touch for almost 2 months and my ipad mini for a month. Not had any problems with them so far. I had problems
with my android devices straight away (note, nexus 7, galaxy tab).
Uhm..i had that constantly with my idevices. My Android devices, all 6 of them in the house and many many over the years have never done this. No wait, my old HTC Hero did. My S2, S3 and N4 have never done this.
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Old 14-02-2013, 10:03
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I'd say iOS problems, erm, excuse me, they call it situations, manifest themselves less offensively. There are no crashes, but some things just do not work. I think they really need to improve their SW quality. By choice they work with limited hardware configurations, but they still manage to produce too many cock-ups.
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Old 14-02-2013, 10:10
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I'd say iOS problems, erm, excuse me, they call it situations, manifest themselves less offensively. There are no crashes, but some things just do not work. I think they really need to improve their SW quality. By choice they work with limited hardware configurations, but they still manage to produce too many cock-ups.
I'd agree with this. I'm not saying iOS is perfect. Android is the better OS but its let down by its instability for me. So whilst iOS is a bit stale I'd rather use it because its more reliable than android for me. The other reason I prefer iOS to android is because of the content that is available through iTunes. I love the openness of android, yet the thing I use my devices for the most is media consumption. I find that iTunes is better for that than the play store.
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Old 14-02-2013, 10:11
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Found this comment on the CNET page very interesting.

"they said the same thing about 7" tablets, 4" phones, smartphone apps, eBooks, videos on small screen.

If OLED becomes mainstream, Apple will be using it in 2 years."
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Old 14-02-2013, 10:24
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Found this comment on the CNET page very interesting.

"they said the same thing about 7" tablets, 4" phones, smartphone apps, eBooks, videos on small screen.

If OLED becomes mainstream, Apple will be using it in 2 years."
If they can source the screens and we all know who the biggest player is there.

I heard that were trying to source oled and cooks comments may mean they have been unsuccessful in that ... But as retina is better no big deal
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Old 14-02-2013, 10:27
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If they can source the screens and we all know who the biggest player is there.

I heard that were trying to source oled and cooks comments may mean they have been unsuccessful in that ... But as retina is better no big deal
I'm sure they will get oled screens eventually, however I think Samsung won't be using Oled screens anymore by the time ape acquire them.
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Old 14-02-2013, 10:30
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Well not quite but it seems all the Apple fans were right after all apparently oled screens are crap retina is simply the best. I imagine nothing to do with apples inability to source them

Fast cpus are rubbish its all about the "user experience" which Apple has got just right it seems. He doesn't want to be drawn into the spec/price war ... I bet he doesn't

I love it do you think he has been reading this forum ..Apple sounding a little spooked maybe

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57...ys-apples-ceo/
Well, not quite? More like not at all.

Usually quotation marks are used to quote what someone has actually said.

What Cook actually said was that he thought one aspect of one component was awful, namely the colour saturation on OLED displays.

I wouldn't describe that comment, one which many would agree with, as desperate or spooked by anything.
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