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Old 14-02-2013, 11:59
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Ive been looking online, and Dell is a bit out of my reach & I dont knbow of many other online retailers for PCs.

Spec-wise, I'm looking for Windows 7 (not 8!); HDMI out; Wireless; an Intel Processor; 250GB+ HD.


Struggling to see one for under 300 which is my absolute MAX budget

All suggestions welcomed - thanks



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Old 14-02-2013, 12:02
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Some online retailers you might want to try: Amazon, Dabs, EBuyer, Laptops Direct, Tesco Direct
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Old 14-02-2013, 12:04
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Some online retailers you might want to try: Amazon, Dabs, EBuyer, Laptops Direct, Tesco Direct
The OP could also try Ebay
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Old 14-02-2013, 12:10
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If you can't avoid Win8 then you might like to try one of the utilities which revert the user interface back to that of previous versions of Windows (they can make the computer boot up in desktop mode instead of Metro, restore the Start button and its menu, and disable the Charm icons which annoyingly appear whenever the mouse pointer is drifted into the righthand corners of the screen). Many people are of the opinion that one of these utilities will convert Win8 from unacceptable to tolerable. Some of the utilities are free, some require a small payment. There's a list here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._for_Windows_8
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Old 14-02-2013, 13:11
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Have a look here.... dinopc
If you go to the customise bit on your chosen PC you can change W8 for W7...and choose a graphics card with hdmi.
They have been recommended to me highly, although I've not used them personally. Write ups are good though.
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Old 14-02-2013, 14:43
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Ebuyer have W7 desktops starting from 290. i3, 4Gb, 500GB, HDMI. You'll need to add a wireless adaptor yourself for a tenner.

http://www.ebuyer.com/411019-packard...p-dt-u6lek-009

http://www.ebuyer.com/search?sort=pr...cat=191&page=1
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Old 14-02-2013, 20:27
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Cracking deal here on a Dell, using discount codes:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/chea...-6-tcb-1476460

It has Windows 8 but the only reason not to get that is if you know your software/hardware won't work with it.
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Old 14-02-2013, 23:02
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Cracking deal here on a Dell, using discount codes:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/chea...-6-tcb-1476460

It has Windows 8 but the only reason not to get that is if you know your software/hardware won't work with it.
Why are you trying to push the OP onto windows 8 when they say they don't want it?

Dell high end machines are not bad, but their lower end machines are not that great to be honest
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Old 14-02-2013, 23:07
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Ive been looking online, and Dell is a bit out of my reach & I dont knbow of many other online retailers for PCs.

Spec-wise, I'm looking for Windows 7 (not 8!); HDMI out; Wireless; an Intel Processor; 250GB+ HD.


Struggling to see one for under 300 which is my absolute MAX budget

All suggestions welcomed - thanks



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A intel processor could mean anything.

Have a look at this one

PB now belongs to Acer, so i presume they are a lot better than they used to be.
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Old 14-02-2013, 23:31
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Cracking deal here on a Dell, using discount codes:

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/chea...-6-tcb-1476460

It has Windows 8 but the only reason not to get that is if you know your software/hardware won't work with it.
If W8 isn't a deal breaker, that one is hard to beat - especially as the OP can add Classic Shell and get the (almost) best of both worlds.
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Old 15-02-2013, 00:07
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Why are you trying to push the OP onto windows 8 when they say they don't want it?

Dell high end machines are not bad, but their lower end machines are not that great to be honest
lol, pull yer head in. It's just an option, I'm hardly pushing anyone to accept it. I'd take a low-end Dell over an equivalent low-end PC (i.e. same spec and price) from most other places. I don't know what makes you think a Packard Bell, Zoostorm, Acer etc. would be better. When Dell have got an offer on that makes it cheaper than anywhere else for this type of basic/entry level PC it's a no-brainer imo.

If W8 isn't a deal breaker, that one is hard to beat - especially as the OP can add Classic Shell and get the (almost) best of both worlds.
Exactly, except StartIsBack is better for turning W8 into W7 imo.
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Old 15-02-2013, 07:12
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I think Dell might give an option of Win7 or Win8 on their business models, which AFAIK they are quite happy to sell to individual customers. Might be worth a check.
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Old 15-02-2013, 09:29
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lol, pull yer head in. It's just an option, I'm hardly pushing anyone to accept it.
The Op knows it is a option, because they mentioned it.

I'd take a low-end Dell over an equivalent low-end PC (i.e. same spec and price) from most other places. I don't know what makes you think a Packard Bell, Zoostorm, Acer etc. would be better. When Dell have got an offer on that makes it cheaper than anywhere else for this type of basic/entry level PC it's a no-brainer imo.
Because every time I had to sort out a Dell machine it was the most awkward thing ever, and the low end one seemed to be so slow. The amount of stuff you have to take out just to stick a bit of memory in them, made them a pain to upgrade.

Things could be a bit different now mind you, it been a few years since I have dived into a Dell machine.

Dell charges a bomb for extras, my sister-in-law got a Dell a few years back, to add a DVD writer, the cost was 3 times as much as what you could buy one even from PC world never mind online. she got a DVD writer elsewhere and I fitted it. The machine is still in use, but only as a office machine.

I have no idea what Zoostorm is like, but I have heard some good things about them, Acer desktops seems to be good for the money and at least they are easy enough to get into.

Packard Bell use to be naff, they always seemed to be cheaply made, but I know someone who got one and that was ok, a AMD single core 64bit one. Sadly the motherboard went belly up last year and I had to replace it, but it was nt new when he had it.

I am not a fan of pre-built machines anyway, I prefer to build my own, i know what goes in it then and i also know that it can be updated.

A HP machine I cleaned for a neighbour had a 350watt PSU, only just powerful to run the machine, if you added a better video card or even a a second hard drive, I doubt it would cope.

Exactly, except StartIsBack is better for turning W8 into W7 imo.
Startisback is good, it may not be free, but I think it is better than most of the free one.
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Old 15-02-2013, 11:39
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Things could be a bit different now mind you, it been a few years since I have dived into a Dell machine.
They're standard, easy to upgrade anything. Unlikely that the OP would need to though by the sound of it.

I posted the PC because the OP's reason for not wanting Windows 8 could be flimsy, like his mate told him it was crap or he hates the look of it. If he has a good reason like I already mentioned then of course he will ignore my post. The other reason I posted it was because it's a good deal that other people reading the thread may be interested in.
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Old 15-02-2013, 12:17
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Thanks for all the replies - most informative!

I like the look of that Dell deal that has been posted, it has everything I need.

My reason for not wanting Win8 is a bit flimsy I think, just heard a lot of bad stuff about it.

But at this price, with these specs (which exceed what I was looking for) , it seems like a good option.

Its going to be used at home for basic use, without any gaming.

I'll look into this further - but maybe its time I kept pace with new technology!!!
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Old 15-02-2013, 13:00
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Thanks for all the replies - most informative!

I like the look of that Dell deal that has been posted, it has everything I need.

My reason for not wanting Win8 is a bit flimsy I think, just heard a lot of bad stuff about it.

But at this price, with these specs (which exceed what I was looking for) , it seems like a good option.

Its going to be used at home for basic use, without any gaming.

I'll look into this further - but maybe its time I kept pace with new technology!!!
Most of the criticism of Windows 8 is about the new user interface. You may find that you like it but if not, you don't have to use it and can easily make Windows 8 work like Windows 7 so it shouldn't really be a problem imo.
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Old 15-02-2013, 13:05
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They're standard, easy to upgrade anything. Unlikely that the OP would need to though by the sound of it.
Oh yes, it was standard, just the box was too small and everything crammed in. As for saying it is unlikely that the OP not upgrade anything, how do we know? I built a machine for someone who I thought would never even take the cover off and now a couple of years later, I found out that they have updated the memory and put a new video card in.
Not the most difficult thing to do, but a bit scary if you not into that sort of thing. Well done them i say. Saves me the hassle
I posted the PC because the OP's reason for not wanting Windows 8 could be flimsy, like his mate told him it was crap or he hates the look of it. If he has a good reason like I already mentioned then of course he will ignore my post. The other reason I posted it was because it's a good deal that other people reading the thread may be interested in.

It is a good deal, i am surprised that Dell won't allow people to have windows 7 as they use to say that people could customise their machines.
You must admit, if you see a picture of windows 8, it makes you think what the hell and i am not going to have that.


Thanks for all the replies - most informative!

I like the look of that Dell deal that has been posted, it has everything I need.

My reason for not wanting Win8 is a bit flimsy I think, just heard a lot of bad stuff about it.

But at this price, with these specs (which exceed what I was looking for) , it seems like a good option.

Its going to be used at home for basic use, without any gaming.

I'll look into this further - but maybe its time I kept pace with new technology!!!
If you do get windows 8 and you decide that the Modern Ui is not for you then there are plenty of start menu substitutes.

As for keeping pace with new technology unless you got a bottomless pit of money that is not really possible or practical.

At the end of the day, you buy what is suited to your needs and while I am not a great fan of Dell, that computer should last you for a few years. the only problem I see with it is that the video is Intel built in, but if that can be updated then it will be a fine machine.

Sorry but Intel video technology compared to Nvidia and AMd is pretty weak.

The one problem i do have with Dell is that they are in bed with Intel and do not give people the choice of using AMD if they prefer that.
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Old 15-02-2013, 13:18
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This might be worth a look:
http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/laptops
You can tick your desired options in the left margin, including screen size, operating system, processor, etc. Prices start at 229+vat+delivery
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Old 15-02-2013, 13:29
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Oh yes, it was standard, just the box was too small and everything crammed in. As for saying it is unlikely that the OP not upgrade anything, how do we know?
Dell entry level PCs are no different to any other. You can upgrade them fine so there's no problem. Expansion is limited (i.e. SATA/PCIe ports etc.) but that's why an entry level PC is cheaper. The OP has stated his needs and the PC would be fine. You're looking for problems where there aren't any.
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