I'm an old greybeard, and learnt Imperial measures when a child in the 1950's. However, I"m one of many elderly people, who have accepted the change, and self learnt metric measures. Although many of my friends, still use Imperial measures, it's a fallacy to state, that we are victims, and marginalised. It insults the intelligence of the elderly, to suggest that we elderly don't understand metric measures, or at least the basic conversions from metric to Imperial. Over the last 40 years, conversions have been printed in the media, and elsewhere, and most of us have taken the opportunity to learn from those conversions. I don't have a problem with the BBC using metric measures, many of my friends don't either. The few that do have a problem, are generally not as bright, and alert, as they used to be, they are mentally frail, that old age brings on, and have problems with many other things, as well as both Imperial and metric measures.

It's what you learn as a youngster that stays with you the rest of your life - simples. You ask most people of my generation and they will tell you the same.

I may have learned to use decimal but I often convert back to pound shillings and pence in my head, and still use pounds and ounces for weights, gallons for volumes etc. and will always do so. Only the other day I thought to myself blimey ten bob to buy a second class stamp, outrageous. Diversity should be celebrated not frowned upon. Why do you want everyone to be homogenised?

Ah! a child of the fifties that has surrendered to government and become part of the collective eh? I would say that instead of mellowing with age I have got more radical. I refuse to be moulded by grey faceless bureaucrats from Brussels or anywhere else for that matter. There was an article on that new programme from the beeb the other night, special reports by the editors at the BBC. They were all very interesting but the one that really got my attention was the piece from Mark Easton asking what has happened to the rebellious youth of today, lamenting the fact it was not rebellious.

I tell you what, I'll continue to tilt at windmills and you can tell me the wind speed in kilometres.

Oh you're one of those. Yawn.

So, following this thread anyone could be forgiven for thinking that the BBC Red Button changes are changes to the way we measure distance...

So back to the topic.

After many years of being written and edited by CSV Action Network, the current editions of Community News, Disability News and Read Hear are the final ones to appear on BBC Text Services.

These final editions may be found this Easter Holiday Weekend going to page 102's final link; the editors have included weblinks for readers to note for future reference.

Page Numbering will therefore read, once Newsround is back:

100 Home
199 Index

News
101 News Headlines
102 News Index
104 Top News Story
144 Politics
153 Technology
154 Science
155 Question Time
160 UK Regions Index
1010 UK
1020 World
1030 Health
1605 UK Regions: Scotland
1610 UK Regions: Wales
1615 UK Regions: Northern Ireland
1620 UK Regions: London & South East
1625 UK Regions: North East
1630 UK Regions: Yorks & Lincs
1635 UK Regions: North West & Cumbria
1640 UK Regions: West Midlands
1645 UK Regions: East Midlands
1650 UK Regions: East
1660 UK Regions: South
1665 UK Regions: West & South West
1675 Isle of Man & Channel Islands

Business
200 Business Index
201 Business News
204 Top Business Story
220 Shares
230 Markets
240 Rates

Sport
300 Contents
301 Headlines
302 Football
303 Football: News
304 Top Sport Story
316 Football: Scores
324 Football: Tables
330 Football: Results and Fixtures
340 Cricket
360 F1
368 Rugby Union
370 Rugby League
380 More Sport
390 Regional Sport Index
481 Golf
485 Tennis
3100 Football: Premiership Club News
3130 Football: Championship Club News
3250 Football: Scotland Premier Club News
3905 Regional Sport: Scotland
3910 Regional Sport: Wales
3915 Regional Sport: Northern Ireland
3920 Regional Sport: London & South East
3925 Regional Sport: North East & Cumbria
3930 Regional Sport: Yorkshire & Humbershide
3935 Regional Sport: North West
3940 Regional Sport: West Midlands
3945 Regional Sport: East Midlands & Lincolshire
3950 Regional Sport: East
3960 Regional Sport: South
3965 Regional Sport: West
3970 Regional Sport: South Westt

Weather
400 Weather Index
4010 Forecast Summary
404 Forecast Summary: UK Summary
405 Weather Warnings
401 Forecast Maps
410 World Cities: Europe
415 World Cities: Australasia
411 World Cities: Africa
412 World Cities: N America
413 World Cities: S America
414 World Cities: Asia
4011 Forecast Maps: Scotland
4021 Forecast Maps: Scotland: 24 Hour
4061 Forecast Maps: Scotland: 5 Day
4012 Forecast Maps: NI & Wales
4022 Forecast Maps: NI & Wales: 24 Hour
4062 Forecast Maps: NI & Wales: 5 Day
4013 Forecast Maps: North
4023 Forecast Maps: North: 24 Hour
4063 Forecast Maps: North: 5 Day
4014 Forecast Maps: Midlands
4024 Forecast Maps: Midlands: 24 Hour
4064 Forecast Maps: Midlands: 5 Day
4015 Forecast Maps: East
4025 Forecast Maps: East: 24 Hour
4065 Forecast Maps: East: 5 Day
4016 Forecast Maps: South East
4026 Forecast Maps: South East: 24 Hour
4066 Forecast Maps: South East: 5 Day
4017 Forecast Maps: South/SW
4027 Forecast Maps: South/SW: 24 Hour
4067 Forecast Maps: South/SW: 5 Day
4100 World Cities

Travel
430 Travel Index
431 UK Motorways
432 Rail
435 Ferries
436 London Transport
437 Roads by Region
440 Flight Arrivals
446 Flights - Gatwick North
447 Flights - Gatwick South
448 Flights - Luton
449 Flights - Birmingham
451 Flights - Newcastle
452 Flights - Bristol
453 Flights - Manchester
455 Flights - Edinburgh
456 Flights - Highlands & Islands
457 Flights - Belfast City
458 Flights - London City
462 Flights - Jersey
463 Flights - Liverpool
464 Flights - East Midlands
467 Flights - Bournemouth
468 Flights - Leeds Bradford
469 Flights - Durham Tees Valley
471 Flights - Humberside
472 Flights - Doncaster Sheffield
473 Flights - Cardiff
474 Flights - Exeter
475 Flights - Norwich
476 Flights - Newquay
477 Flights - Belfast International
479 Flights - Isle of Man

Entertainment
501 Entertainment News
504 Top Entertainment Story
555 Lottery

Children
5900 Cbeebies
570 CBBC eXtra
571 Newsround

Help
9990 Help
998 Help: Text Changes
888 Help: Subtitles
159 Emergency Information for BBC Staff

Absolutely and proud to be so. I assume you're one that's easily moulded, yawn.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/po...-metric-878130

Good clip http://www.bbc.co.uk/skillswise/topi...ial-and-metric kind of sums up the varying experiences expressed in the offtopic discussion and the whole online section offers helpful resources; play http://www.bbc.co.uk/skillswise/quiz...pe-e1and2-quiz

So

Now please could we in the name of mercy stick the thread topic from now on?

They're too busy playing with their iThingies to rebel.

Topic being the red button service as it stands is no longer fit for purpose one assumes? Since the beeb have dropped the video feeds for satellite consumers I rarely bother with it anymore. It was after all it's best and most used feature.

Faust, dear Faust, this is a thread in the Freeview subforum.

Freeview-only households had to say hallo to a reduced service three and a half years ago or so.

I use text most days, the other services as and when: archive http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcinternet/red_button/ latest (2013 blogs) http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/tags/Red_button

The fact still remains the service is now a shadow of it's former self and from what I see on my Freeview HD platform I'm now getting the same poor service on my Freesat platform.

As far as text goes, the content has removed in the past forty-seven months has been:

News: nothing from BBC News except the In Depth page 125 (see note under Entertainment below). CSV Action Network pages leave the service this week.

Business: Farm Prices, Loans and Homes, Savings and Premium Bonds.

Sport: some sports such as Ice Hockey and Basketball no longer have their league table or results pages.

Weather: no change

Travel: BAA airports no longer giving the BBC their Flight Arrival Times.

Entertainment: Extra has gone and the Top 40 Singles and Album Charts have moved to the Radio 1 service, which makes sense as BBC TV has no current chart show. However, the obituary for Richard Griffiths on Entertainment Extra 501 is the same length itwould have been in In Depth when that service was still going.

Radio gets a much better service from RBDT than it did in the days of BBC One Ceefax pages 640-659 with all the Red Button Pages on the Freeview Service. And the EPG gets viewers details for all prgrammes.

CBBC and CBeebies: no change but for Newsround not being carried at present.

And Red Button Digital Text always has a comprehensive results service for elections.

So really, it's not that much content that has completely disappeared.

What's on Holy Saturday onwards on not-text - published first thing this morning.

Do by all means comment there!

We're awaiting the results of the most recent BBC Online and Red Button consultation being published on http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/have_your_say/review.

With the Licence Freeze, there's only so much money to go round.

Except On Demand video feeds for those of us on multi-platforms, their most useful feature by far.

Well, it wasn't as though any of us was not warned on the Help Pages and on BBC Online about multiscreen going, and D-Sat and D-Cab users had a lot more choices of OBS coverages of the Olympics than DTT viewers for London 2012 when it came to the Olympics.

Read Hear and Community Pages were off air from Easter Thursday 2013, one year to the day since London DSO Stage One. So long and Thank You, CSV Action Network.

Sport Pages Blue Button: Sport on TV choice has gone, but that content is now under Headlines 301.

There's till a bit of work needing to be done by the Red Button technical team in MediaCityUK to remove Community News choice from the Connected Red Button Version of page 100.and uncouple page 660 from (Horse) Racing,

Newspaper Review is back under Page 102

Newsround (Test) is currently under 9072.

There never seems to be anything on the red button, even when there should be. All coverage of snooker and darts would do for a start.

Ah, Snooker and Darts comes under 380 More Sport with Basketball, Boxing, Cycling, ParaSport (BBC still insists on Disability Sport), Rowing, Swimming, Winter Sport and so on and so on.

Do make your views known to the team concerning the lack of coverage as you perceive it http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/front_page/3701180.stm. The BBC Sport Editors' Blog has gone very quiet of late.

Hmm. Next Button on 570 does not reach all content yet.

... but then the BBC are the only Text Service Providers for Children

Still to be fixed

* 660 going completely;
* Sport Links on Blue Button and Green Button on Sport pages being revised for duplications (Football, always the Football!) and re-labelling;
* Community News going completely from connected Red Button as this still shows on page 100 on a Connected TVOnics DTR-HV250, for example;
*Help Pages 9990 Retuning Your Digitall TV and Contact Us being made more compact with fewer repetitions of information already given on earlier Help Page Topics;
*199 including Health News and Newspaper Review on the News drop down box;
* Renumber 9072 Newsround Test as 571.

Community News has gone.

Contact Us on Help Page has been shortened by one subpage to take out the reference to the Digital UK Homepage

Soon won't be worth having a red button service the rate the sections are disappearing.